The ultimate fantasy box set of live recordings

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by sjpdg

Looks like a pretty complete list to me. Nice work!! Thanks for making that list.

Not "taking you to task" either, just a comment. Since "Stand Back", "Go Insane" and "Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You" are essentially "solo" hits that have been incorporated into the FM set over the years, I'd suggest leaving them out if we want a "Fleetwood Mac" live anthology.

As far as the "Time" line up is concerned, as much as many don't like it, it is a portion of the Mac history, and something should be included, again if we're looking for a complete live anthology. There's got to be a set list from that brief era somewhere that includes live material performed from that CD and not just that line-up's versions of the standards.

If Fleetwood Mac played the song, it should be included, hence "Stand Back", "Go Insane" & "HAEWAFY" should be included, it's not like those were only played once or twice, they were played throughout an entire tour. (and in "Stand Back"'s case, for multiple tours)

Speaking of "leaving things out"...it's not a comprehensive "Fleetwood Mac Live Anthology" if you don't include material from '67-74, as well.

The concert set played on 10/15/94 (by what has since been referred to at the Time lineup):

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow By Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
{encores}
Tear It Up
Imagine

[DavidMn]

[QUOTE=chiliD;996720]If Fleetwood Mac played the song, it should be included, hence "Stand Back", "Go Insane" & "HAEWAFY" should be included, it's not like those were only played once or twice, they were played throughout an entire tour. (and in "Stand Back"'s case, for multiple tours)

Speaking of "leaving things out"...it's not a comprehensive "Fleetwood Mac Live Anthology" if you don't include material from '67-74, as well.

The concert set played on 10/15/94 (by what has since been referred to at the Time lineup):


Oh Well


Never heard of it.....

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by chiliD

If Fleetwood Mac played the song, it should be included, hence "Stand Back", "Go Insane" & "HAEWAFY" should be included, it's not like those were only played once or twice, they were played throughout an entire tour. (and in "Stand Back"'s case, for multiple tours)

Speaking of "leaving things out"...it's not a comprehensive "Fleetwood Mac Live Anthology" if you don't include material from '67-74, as well.

The concert set played on 10/15/94 (by what has since been referred to at the Time lineup):

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow By Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
{encores}
Tear It Up
Imagine

Thanks for listing those! They also performed Dreaming the Dream in some shows. My original concept was stated for Anthology from 1975 onward. I think a Blues era anthology is an entity unto itself. In that vein, perhaps a "middle" period anothogy is in order too!

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

After thinking how Tom Petty's Live Anthology box set was such a great gift to his fans -- 61 songs spanning his entire career, including rare performances. I thought how great it would be if Fleetwood Mac did the same thing --

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

My original concept was stated for Anthology from 1975 onward.

Kind of contradictory...can't have "spanning entire career" and "..from 1975 onward" at the same time.

[UndoingTheLaces]

If it exists I would love to see Sara from the Tusk tour as done in Melbourne. That's my favorite live version. It still gives me goosebumps. The bootleg recording is decent but you can tell it's been transferred from cassette to cassette. It would be amazing to have a clear recording of the original.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Kind of contradictory...can't have "spanning entire career" and "..from 1975 onward" at the same time.

Not kind of contradictory -- just mistated. Yes, Tom Petty's box was spanning his career. Fleetwood Mac's history is much longer, with very diverse eras. To include all eras is not practical from a proper box set context.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Not kind of contradictory -- just mistated. Yes, Tom Petty's box was spanning his career. Fleetwood Mac's history is much longer, with very diverse eras. To include all eras is not practical from a proper box set context.

Why not? One Ms Nicks is on record (no pun intended) as saying that "there's a thread that goes through all eras".

And, who says the box set has to be "proper". "Proper" & "Rock Music" are like oil & water.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Not kind of contradictory -- just mistated. Yes, Tom Petty's box was spanning his career. Fleetwood Mac's history is much longer, with very diverse eras. To include all eras is not practical from a proper box set context.

I'm confused by this.. I see FM's body of work from the beginning to the end with an amazing common thread in each and every album... I would not want them to delete sections unless they released different era box sets... Genesis did that in Archives 1 and 2.

It could go 1967-1974 Pre White Album Box
Then 1975-1997 Fab 5 Box
Then 1998-2011 Terrible Singing Years..

[MacShadowsBall]

Didn't they already release a box set back in 1992?

Though I suppose one focusing on live recordings could work...

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Didn't they already release a box set back in 1992?

Yeah, a poorly conceived & executed one.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I'm confused by this.. I see FM's body of work from the beginning to the end with an amazing common thread in each and every album... I would not want them to delete sections unless they released different era box sets... Genesis did that in Archives 1 and 2.

It could go 1967-1974 Pre White Album Box
Then 1975-1997 Fab 5 Box
Then 1998-2011 Terrible Singing Years..

That's sort of what I was thinking. To have one live anthology that includes all eras is not practical. It would be a 20 disc set and cost hundreds of dollars.

All the comments of those who completely misunderstood what I meant are forgiven. If you read my initial post I specifically stated a time line of 1975- present, making the point that this wasn't intended of a comprehensive set of the entire history of Fleetwood Mac. How could I be any clearer?

[sjpdg]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

That's sort of what I was thinking. To have one live anthology that includes all eras is not practical. It would be a 20 disc set and cost hundreds of dollars.

All the comments of those who completely misunderstood what I meant are forgiven. If you read my initial post I specifically stated a time line of 1975- present, making the point that this wasn't intended of a comprehensive set of the entire history of Fleetwood Mac. How could I be any clearer?

Didn't misundertand your original intent, it just doesn't make sense in my opinion.

If someone is going to do a live anthology (or an anthology period) of any band, be it FM or any other, it should include all eras of the band, not just one. No real fan of FM (as we all are on this forum) would really accept a strictly B/N era live anthology. The screaming from the fans would echo the world over. Any band or artist anthology covers material from over the entire history of the band, not just one specific era, even if that era has been the most commercially successful era in the band or artists history.

Take Eric Clapton as an example. His boxed set a number of years ago covered all eras of his career, both solo and with other bands. Would fans have really accepted a boxed set that was only of his solo material? Probably, but we would not have been as satisfied. In the country music field, Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings box sets have done the same. Music from all eras of their careers, from their early "cookie-cutter" Nashville years, to the "outlaw country" eras and into their later years. These are actual career length anthologies, not just sets of specific eras. This list could go on and on. Point being, if an anthology is to be done, it should be a career long anthology, not just what has been most commercially successful or the most widely popular.

[sjpdg]

Originally Posted by chiliD

If Fleetwood Mac played the song, it should be included, hence "Stand Back", "Go Insane" & "HAEWAFY" should be included, it's not like those were only played once or twice, they were played throughout an entire tour. (and in "Stand Back"'s case, for multiple tours)

Speaking of "leaving things out"...it's not a comprehensive "Fleetwood Mac Live Anthology" if you don't include material from '67-74, as well.

The concert set played on 10/15/94 (by what has since been referred to at the Time lineup):

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow By Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
{encores}
Tear It Up
Imagine

You make an excellent point ChiliD. I agree. If they played it, just like Petty, it should be included. We especially agree on the inclusion of the '67 - '74 material as well! The B/N line up would not have been part of Fleetwood Mac if the prior personnel hadn't been there to first off create Fleetwood Mac, and secondly to keep it going in its various incarnations.

That being said, I guess we'd need to have "Blow By Blow" as the "Time" contribution. It seems odd though that they didn't perform not one other song from that CD live. None of those other songs were on "Time". "The Bigger The Love" was Billy's from a solo project and also appeared on John's 1-off CD with Lola Thomas singing.

Are there any other set-lists that include other material from "Time" that could be chosen from? Not a huge fan of the CD, but "Blow By Blow" certainly isn't the 'be-all-and-end-all" from it to be sure.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by sjpdg

Are there any other set-lists that include other material from "Time" that could be chosen from? Not a huge fan of the CD, but "Blow By Blow" certainly isn't the 'be-all-and-end-all" from it to be sure.

At later shows they did "Dreaming The Dream" in place of "Imagine".

And, from what I've heard about the original aborted Another Link In The Chain album, Billy's "The Bigger The Love" was recorded for the album.

[PenguinHead]

Why isn't anyone complaining that Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits or The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac features material only from 1975 onward, with no representation from earlier configurations/eras?

How is that any different from a live compilation that focuses on a specific time period?