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Old 05-01-2011, 09:50 PM
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Now, what REALLY annoys me about this article is the 'bed-hopping' line. They do this is every blimmin article about FM ever written, and as far as we know, apart from the legit couples, there was only ONE other hook-up in that band. One out of four other hetero possibilities:

Stevie and John? No.
Christine and Mick? No.
Christine and Lindsey? No.
Stevie and Mick? Yes.

People, they were hardly even trying.
JUST saw this and had to comment. While I agree that it's irritating when Fleetwood Mac are called "the most incestuous band in rock" I... don't think Stevie and Mick were the only hookup. If you google, there's a load of speculation that something happened with Christine and Lindsey in Switzerland (I thiiink). Although, I don't think Christine would do that to Stevie, I quite like the thought of Christine and Lindsey having an affair, mainly cause their musical chemistry is SOOO good, and I imagine it would spill over into the boudoir.
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:57 PM
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You're forgetting the affair between Lindsey and John.


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Old 05-01-2011, 10:06 PM
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You're forgetting the affair between Lindsey and John.


Just kidding.
Mick once described how he would curl up spooning with Peter when sleeping and said they were like brothers and I thought, "Well, that doesn't sound like brothers, exactly."

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Old 05-01-2011, 10:11 PM
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Mick once described how he would curl up spooning with Peter when sleeping and said they were like brothers and I thought, "Well, that doesn't sound like brothers, exactly."

Michele
What a horrid visual. Now Mick's propensity to wear women's clothing suddenly all makes sense...

And yeah, blech, I would never, EVER cuddle with my brother. That's just all kinds of oogie.
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What a horrid visual. Now Mick's propensity to wear women's clothing suddenly all makes sense...

And yeah, blech, I would never, EVER cuddle with my brother. That's just all kinds of oogie.
This is Mick discussing Peter, from that Rock Family Tree interview:

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I loved him. I adored him. You know, y'know I'll say it openly: we'd sleep together. You know and it was a brother thing. When it was cold, we'd curl up in bed together and keep warm, nothing sexual or anything. Don't get me wrong, but it was that close.
Hey, when it's cold at night, I guess you do what you gotta do.

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Old 05-01-2011, 10:36 PM
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This HAS to be misquoted.
Stevie is much too classy, and just plain nice to say those outright things about Lohan. I mean, this is the woman who endured a truly "terrible" duet with Taylor Swift, knew it was terrible, and STILL managed to say nice things about her in magazines!!

The interview is probably paraphrased and misquoted to the point of falsehood.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:40 PM
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What exactly does eye-slashing mean?
I know, right? I realize that she meant that they glare at each other with narrowed eyes (which they don't even do during that song anymore), but the way its phrased just makes it sound like they were so angry that eyes were cut.

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Old 05-02-2011, 03:42 AM
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While I agree that it's irritating when Fleetwood Mac are called "the most incestuous band in rock" I... don't think Stevie and Mick were the only hookup.
As much as I just said what I said, there's a quote from John that's always intrigued me. It's in one of the docs, either 'Don't Stop' or the Rumours 'Classic Albums', and he says something like 'I think the only two people who weren't at it were me and Mick'.

Now, it could be the way it's been edited, to make it look like a direct response to the voiceover talking about the craziness within the band at the time of Rumours, and that John was actually talking in a wider sense about the FM 'family' or the hedonism of '70s SoCal culture in general, but it's always made me think that, even as exaggeration for comic effect, it's some sort of an acknowledgement that there were other hook-ups?

And yes, I agree that Lindsey-Christine is far more likely than Christine-Mick. And I do wonder about Stevie-John. Even once. Just once?
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:51 AM
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As much as I just said what I said, there's a quote from John that's always intrigued me. It's in one of the docs, either 'Don't Stop' or the Rumours 'Classic Albums', and he says something like 'I think the only two people who weren't at it were me and Mick'.

Now, it could be the way it's been edited, to make it look like a direct response to the voiceover talking about the craziness within the band at the time of Rumours, and that John was actually talking in a wider sense about the FM 'family' or the hedonism of '70s SoCal culture in general, but it's always made me think that, even as exaggeration for comic effect, it's some sort of an acknowledgement that there were other hook-ups?

And yes, I agree that Lindsey-Christine is far more likely than Christine-Mick. And I do wonder about Stevie-John. Even once. Just once?
I could be wrong, but I thought John said he and Lindsey were the only two who hadn't hooked up. So I guess John was sometimes included in those kinky Peter-Mick spooning parties.

Anyway, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least one random, drunken hook-up between Stevie and John or Chris and Lindsey. Who was it who said something about how their collective flaw was their tendency to tiptoe into each other's rooms? Something like that. A really affair would surprise me, but a one-nighter wouldn't.
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The biggest mistake I ever made was giving in to my friends and going to see a psychiatrist. It was in the mid-1980s, and I had just gotten out of Betty Ford. I was feeling buoyant and saved and fantastic. But everyone said, “We’re sure you’re going to start using again. You should go to a psychiatrist.” Finally, I said, “All right!” and went. What this man said was: “In order to keep you off cocaine we should put you on the drug that we’re using a lot these days called Klonopin.” Stupidly, I said, “All right.” And the next eight years of my life were destroyed.

Klonopin is in the Valium family, but Valium is fuzzy and Klonopin is insidious because it’s so subtle that you can hardly tell you took it. I got through 1986 and 1987. Thank God I’d already written the words for my record The Other Side of the Mirror. But what started happening was that if I didn’t take it, my hands started to shake. I felt like I had a neurological disease or Parkinson’s. I started not being able to get to Lindsey Buckingham’s house on time, and I would get there and everybody was drinking, so I’d have a glass of wine. Don’t mix tranquilizers and wine. Then I’d sing horrific parts on his songs, and he would take the parts off. I was hardly on Tango of the Night, which I happen to love.

The next six years were terrible. Looking back on it, I think this therapist was basically a groupie. He loved hearing stories of rock and roll and he started upping my dose. He watched me go from a beautiful, 125-pound, newly sober woman who had the world at her feet to a 170-pound woman who had the lights go out in her eyes.

Finally, in 1993, I’d had enough. I said, “Take me to a hospital.” I went in for 47 days, and it made Betty Ford look like a cakewalk. My hair turned gray and my skin molted. I could hardly walk. You can detox off heroin in 12 days. Coke is just a mental detox. But tranquilizers—they are dangerous. I was terrified to leave, and I came away knowing that that would never happen to me again.

I learned so much in that hospital. I wrote the whole time I was there, stuff that I consider to be some of my best writing ever. I learned that I could have fun and laugh and cry with amazing people and not be on drugs. I learned that I could live my life and still be beautiful and fun and still go to parties and not even have to have a glass of wine. I never went to therapy again after that—why would I?

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/m...vie-nicks.html
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:33 AM
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I learned that I could have fun and laugh and cry with amazing people and not be on drugs. I learned that I could live my life and still be beautiful and fun and still go to parties and not even have to have a glass of wine. I

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/m...vie-nicks.html

AMEN!


Lindsey Lohan, and pretty much every teenager on the planet, needs to hear these words more often
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The biggest mistake I ever made was giving in to my friends and going to see a psychiatrist. It was in the mid-1980s, and I had just gotten out of Betty Ford. I was feeling buoyant and saved and fantastic. But everyone said, “We’re sure you’re going to start using again. You should go to a psychiatrist.” Finally, I said, “All right!” and went. What this man said was: “In order to keep you off cocaine we should put you on the drug that we’re using a lot these days called Klonopin.” Stupidly, I said, “All right.” And the next eight years of my life were destroyed.

Klonopin is in the Valium family, but Valium is fuzzy and Klonopin is insidious because it’s so subtle that you can hardly tell you took it. I got through 1986 and 1987. Thank God I’d already written the words for my record The Other Side of the Mirror. But what started happening was that if I didn’t take it, my hands started to shake. I felt like I had a neurological disease or Parkinson’s. I started not being able to get to Lindsey Buckingham’s house on time, and I would get there and everybody was drinking, so I’d have a glass of wine. Don’t mix tranquilizers and wine. Then I’d sing horrific parts on his songs, and he would take the parts off. I was hardly on Tango of the Night, which I happen to love.

The next six years were terrible. Looking back on it, I think this therapist was basically a groupie. He loved hearing stories of rock and roll and he started upping my dose. He watched me go from a beautiful, 125-pound, newly sober woman who had the world at her feet to a 170-pound woman who had the lights go out in her eyes.

Finally, in 1993, I’d had enough. I said, “Take me to a hospital.” I went in for 47 days, and it made Betty Ford look like a cakewalk. My hair turned gray and my skin molted. I could hardly walk. You can detox off heroin in 12 days. Coke is just a mental detox. But tranquilizers—they are dangerous. I was terrified to leave, and I came away knowing that that would never happen to me again.

I learned so much in that hospital. I wrote the whole time I was there, stuff that I consider to be some of my best writing ever. I learned that I could have fun and laugh and cry with amazing people and not be on drugs. I learned that I could live my life and still be beautiful and fun and still go to parties and not even have to have a glass of wine. I never went to therapy again after that—why would I?

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/m...vie-nicks.html
"Tango of the Night"?

Well I guess this explains why Stevie's vocals are largely absent from the Tango In The Night album.
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Call me crazy , but I absolutely believe that any kind of hook up that could have happened did... Stevie and Christine hooked up with all the boys sometime or another. C'mon now...would you hook up with each of them? I sure would. They each have their own special charm. Although we don't hear many specific details about any hook ups outside of the relationships - other than Stevie and Mick - does everyone know every person you've ever hooked up with?

Maybe my mind ain't right but I rather like the idea of Stevie's promiscuousness - she does it so well - because she's not a ho, rather a woman who was comfortable in her body and herself that she shared herself with many many many mens. A lover of making love. Or a ho. Depends on your view of things. Anyways, you can't blame it on her, blame it on her wild heart.
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I love that she is a TINT fan. This is a great piece and I'm so happy to see that she is proud of herself for pulling herself through it. GO STEVIE!!
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Call me crazy , but I absolutely believe that any kind of hook up that could have happened did... Stevie and Christine hooked up with all the boys sometime or another. C'mon now...would you hook up with each of them? I sure would. They each have their own special charm. Although we don't hear many specific details about any hook ups outside of the relationships - other than Stevie and Mick - does everyone know every person you've ever hooked up with?

Maybe my mind ain't right but I rather like the idea of Stevie's promiscuousness - she does it so well - because she's not a ho, rather a woman who was comfortable in her body and herself that she shared herself with many many many mens. A lover of making love. Or a ho. Depends on your view of things. Anyways, you can't blame it on her, blame it on her wild heart.
Amen. I agree with you, especially about Stevie - 'a lover of making love' is an excellent description.

My gripe was really with the way that rumours (yes, that word) have become fact. It is just routinely reported that they were all bed-hopping with each other as if it's all been admitted, when it really hasn't. And while I can totally dig indulging in speculation here on the Ledge, with fellow FM geeks who've read every word these people have ever uttered, I get tired of reading articles that are clearly just repeating previous assertions. But then I kind of do suspect there were more hook-ups than we know about, so now I've just confused myself...
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