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Old 04-24-2011, 03:15 PM
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Giving us back our youth
When they finally come to bury us
Bury us, we'll tell the truth
I heard "Swing low sweet chariot"

Thank you for compiling all these! Lots of food for thought
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Old 04-24-2011, 04:24 PM
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Food for thought indeed, it looks like I have something to analyze again. Finally.
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And you take the lyrics from these and compare it to the lyrics from those and you can't help but . . . well, I'm just saying.

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And you take the lyrics from these and compare it to the lyrics from those and you can't help but . . . well, I'm just saying.

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Are you referring to Cheaper Than Free?
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Are you referring to Cheaper Than Free?
No. I have blocked the sickening Cheaper Than Free lyrics from my mind. I was actually being silly because we don't even have lyrics other than Secret Love do we? I'm just 100% sure we'll be getting some.

Just the review that said that In Your Dreams was racy made me think that those dreams describe, something similar to the dreams in the guitarist's lyrics. Sadly, over 17 years ago, when Mulder came up behind Scully and touched her unexpectedly on the neck, I have been on a ship and I can't get off.

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I'm sorry to gloat, but they're discussing song lengths for IYD in the Stevie forum...and we've actually got new Lindsey lyrics!!
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I'm sorry to gloat, but they're discussing song lengths for IYD in the Stevie forum...and we've actually got new Lindsey lyrics!!

Yes, but Pyrrhic Victory because I think we've only got them because he needs a record label. She doesn't.

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I'm sorry to gloat, but they're discussing song lengths for IYD in the Stevie forum...and we've actually got new Lindsey lyrics!!
- perhaps the advantage of not being with WBs... and having Pattie!
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And you take the lyrics from these and compare it to the lyrics from those and you can't help but . . . well, I'm just saying.

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So, to compare...

His:
"We crossed the line
From the fire we were running"

Hers:
"And even though they were so in love
They drew a line in the sand just because
In the smoke and the fire
She burned his house down"
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So, to compare...

His:
"We crossed the line
From the fire we were running"

Hers:
"And even though they were so in love
They drew a line in the sand just because
In the smoke and the fire
She burned his house down"
That's great.

And I admit I think it's silly to believe that Lindsey knows Stevie solo songs. I don't think he even likes that music. But I compare his fire still burning to her "there's no fire burning." That's a reply.

Also, since I don't have her new songs yet, when he says meet me at station, I'm thinking, what station? The railway station? Where's she's been waiting, since That's Alright?

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That's great.

And I admit I think it's silly to believe that Lindsey knows Stevie solo songs. I don't think he even likes that music. But I compare his fire still burning to her "there's no fire burning." That's a reply.

Also, since I don't have her new songs yet, when he says meet me at station, I'm thinking, what station? The railway station? Where's she's been waiting, since That's Alright?

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LOL about the station. I was thinking that too, but his station is "up" and hers is "down". Figures.

I wouldn't have thought about all the fire and lines either except for his reference to Edgar Allan Poe. Plus, they have both commented on each other's new stuff, so they must have shared copies.
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LOL about the station. I was thinking that too, but his station is "up" and hers is "down". Figures.

I wouldn't have thought about all the fire and lines either except for his reference to Edgar Allan Poe. Plus, they have both commented on each other's new stuff, so they must have shared copies.
Plus, dreams is a generic term, overused by every songwriter and poet in the history of the world.

But I can't help think that her album is In Your Dreams and his songs are full of troubled dreams where he's with his past love and only wakes up to find her gone.

He found her in the sea in Treason, now she never leaves his dreams.

Yes, they shared copies and she thinks his stuff is the best he's ever written. She even told Dave so!

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So, to compare...

His:
"We crossed the line
From the fire we were running"

Hers:
"And even though they were so in love
They drew a line in the sand just because
In the smoke and the fire
She burned his house down"
Stevie's lyric here is a reference to Wide Sargasso Sea, isn't it? It's basically the entire plot of the novel summed up in four lines.

However, in some of these new songs ("Stars," "The Way Love Goes") there's definitely a sense of impossible longing that might make a person wonder what Lindsey uses as a reference point when communicating this kind of longing and regret in his songs.

(My apologies for English-majoring it up here. )
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What's interesting to me is that they both started using recurring symbols before FM and they still use those same symbols today and they are symbols that they share. You can say they are very common and all songwriters use them, but Christine wasn't running around winning, losing and drawing lines all over the place.

Christine has done "Who's Dreaming This Dream," but Lindsey and Stevie use "dream" with inordinate regularity and I cannot help but connect their separate dreams to each other.
Yup. It does pre-date Rumours, I agree, but I think '76-77 was the point at which songwriting became their main channel of communication. And yes, 'dream(s)' is an absolutely key word.

Their lyrics as a whole actually remind me a little of the Brontes' 'Gondol' fantasy: a private but shared world with its own artefacts and language.

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In some of these new songs ("Stars," "The Way Love Goes") there's definitely a sense of impossible longing that might make a person wonder what Lindsey uses as a reference point when communicating this kind of longing and regret in his songs.
Yes, that's what I was getting at but you've put it much better! The yearning tone just doesn't square with LB's much-vaunted contentment in the present day, so either the lyrics were written quite a long time ago, or he's not as content as he appears, or they're not about him?
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:07 PM
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As far as interpretations go, I find many UTS and Stevie's TISL and SYW songs to be about The Dance and Will's birth, while I think this new batch of Lindsey songs are about what went on from 2003-2009.

UTS is about loss, but it's actually more upbeat than what we've seen of SWS. UTS is about making amends, reconciling, nurturing, dealing with loss but facing a future that holds new and different promise.

In SWS we find that the future didn't take away the pain. It's still there and will remain and can't be replaced with other joys or compensations, nor can it be papered around. They tried to continue some kind of love relationship, but had to break that off, because it was too painful to be half in and half out of a relationship. It caused her harm. So, there's this realization threading through the songs that we'll have to live with this unfilled hole until death. While UTS had regret, tinged with optimism, these new songs have regret saddled with a bit of despair, because now you know it can't be healed. Been there, tried that, didn't work.

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