Christine Article - Page 3

Phil · #31 05-15-2003, 08:40 AM

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Fair enough if that's your opinion, but you guys are stating these things as if they were facts and they are not facts, just opinions and "I think" people would "respect them more" if you simply stated them as such.

Oh but everything I stated was fact! Christine is all washed up and the "career" is long gone. Fact.

Tango · #32 05-15-2003, 08:40 AM

It will be wonderful to have even MORE music to add to the Fleetwood Mac legacy!

wetcamelfood · #33 05-15-2003, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by Phil
Oh but everything I stated was fact! Christine is all washed up and the "career" is long gone. Fact.

OK then, where can I find the documentation that says this (if it "is a fact" as you say)?

If I was to say (whoever is at #1 right now) is "washed up" and someone that had hits years ago and doesn't now is "long gone" too, does me saying that make it a fact that those artist's careers are "over"?

How does it mean "for a fact" that ANY music put out by ANY artist now, regardles of it's sales figures, is not good? You are obviously a big fan of Stevie and/or Lindsey so I'll word it this way to cover all bases: "Buckingham Nicks" didn't sell so does that mean you think that album is "no good" because of it's poor sales figures/lack of hit singles etc.?

At least I will say that it's MY "opinion" that "sales doesn't equal good music, they have nothing to do with each other" and that to me "there is no such thing as something "being a fact" as to whether a song is "good (or not)", it is an opinion". As much as I would LIKE that to be a fact, people like yourself, will not always agree on that.

All you had to do was say "it's my opinion that..." and you wouldn't have felt so "hard done by", that's all I'm saying.

John

Janet · #34 05-15-2003, 11:32 AM

I know what's washed up.

People who post on these boards just to ruffle some feathers. Just ignore them and don't get offended and they will go away.

This is a fan board and anyone who isn't a fan shouldn't post. I never will understand those who aren't fans who come to these boards. I don't get it!

ANYWAY! This is great news about the beautiful Christine McVie. Im sure she is making a great album and I will be right in line to buy it. I just hope it's released in the states. She might just release it on her side of the pond.

How DID her 1984 album do there anyway>

So people just be happy she's coming out with another album and ignore the riff raff that some people want to start

YAWN

MissJanet · #35 05-15-2003, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by wetcamelfood
I (& I'm sure the others here too) respect your opinions
John

I respect everyones opinion here, with the expection of Phils opinion on Christine McVie. Since he had the nerve to call her a c***t here, IMHO he is disqualified to post about her at all. I guess my opinion is questionable, but I can't stand such behavior and I can't respect Phil anymore.

wetcamelfood · #36 05-15-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by MissJanet
I respect everyones opinion here, with the expection of Phils opinion on Christine McVie. Since he had the nerve to call her a c***t here, IMHO he is disqualified to post about her at all. I guess my opinion is questionable, but I can't stand such behavior and I can't respect Phil anymore.

Yeah, well, I was just trying to be nice about it there.

Since he won't just admit that it's his opinion and not a fact then it does make it tough to have a reasonable discussion with "some people" here.

Janet's right though, and as she's a moderator here, I will do as she advises on this and I'm not going to waste my time in this thread anymore.

Shame that a nice fun thread (or a few CM ones as mentioned for that matter) had to turn sour for no reason. Oh well, whatever, see you guys in other fun threads and let's hope they stay that way.

John

squealy · #37 05-15-2003, 01:10 PM

I don't hate Christine or anything, I just find a lot of her stuff boring, so I don't miss her on the new album. I'd certainly never call her a "c**t" (!) or comment on her looks.

wetcamelfood · #38 05-15-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by squealy
I don't hate Christine or anything, I just find a lot of her stuff boring, so I don't miss her on the new album. I'd certainly never call her a "c**t" (!) or comment on her looks.

Yeah, I know, I DO respect YOUR opinion even if I personally don't agree with it Squealy because at least YOU will say that it's "just your opinion" and not a "fact".

John

Rainman · #39 05-15-2003, 01:39 PM

I have to agree with squealy, that Christine's recent work just doesn't have the energy or appeal (to me) of her earlier stuff. My hope is that the break has given her something new.

Now, as for Phil's most enlightened comments, calling Chris a c**t or dismissing her art based on looks . . .well, I suggest he go find a lively little misogynist's board somewhere.

Hey Phil, try www.totalfrigginloser.com

Phil · #40 05-15-2003, 06:24 PM

I'm sorry if I ruined this thread for anyone but hey kids, play nice! I'm a sensitive guy and the insults directed at me do really cut to the quick.
I do remember reading somewhere that "hateful" comments such as the ones uttered about me can result in indefinite suspension from the Ledge. Just thought this was worth mentioning 'cause I wouldn't like to lose contact with you guys.

Rainman · #41 05-15-2003, 06:52 PM

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I do remember reading somewhere that "hateful" comments such as the ones uttered about me can result in indefinite suspension from the Ledge. Just thought this was worth mentioning 'cause I wouldn't like to lose contact with you guys.

You mean, hateful comments like "Christine's a c**t?"

I agree one hundred percent, Phil!

wetcamelfood · #42 05-15-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Phil
I'm sorry if I ruined this thread for anyone but hey kids, play nice! I'm a sensitive guy and the insults directed at me do really cut to the quick.
I do remember reading somewhere that "hateful" comments such as the ones uttered about me can result in indefinite suspension from the Ledge. Just thought this was worth mentioning 'cause I wouldn't like to lose contact with you guys.

You may think otherwise but I have nothing against you personally and I do apologize if I said anything "hurtful" but in looking through my previous posts, apart from insinuating I didn't respect your opinion due to your not replying earlier, I must say, I don't think I did, I simply said (or was at least simply trying to say) that you may wish to consider thinking twice before saying your opinion was a fact, it was just advice more than anything else, and either take it or don't. That was the only reason I came in to this thread as I saw your original post in this thread and thought it might upset some due to the said reason above and thought I'd try to nip it in the bud before it got worse but it didn't seem to work. Just trying to be a "peacekeeper" if you like.

John

Cristian · #43 05-16-2003, 11:22 PM

Phil, you have about 120 posts here in The Ledge. And from what I have read, about 100 of them at least have been to say something against Christine. You don't like her, it's just fine, I respect your opinion, which is something that you apparently don't do with other people. Pity. But the thing is, is that hate that you feel for Christine so important that you need to come to The Ledge only to search for the articles and topics that are about her and post something insulting against her and her fans? Don't you really have anything more interesting to add to the conversations? I feel really sorry that you are posting and using the valuable bandwidth of this Forum, and thus making us having to read all your incredibly biased and unfortunated statements. It's also, as I said, pretty annoying that the only thing that you've repeated throughout your 120 posts is that you hate Christine. Good for you, but I am tired about all of the discussion. Open a topic about how bad are Christine's post-1982 songs, or about how bad her album (which doesn't even have a releasing date yet as far as I know) is or will be, whatever. Discuss whatever you want. But stop runing with your unrespectful and pityful ways of treating other members, the few topics that are about her, for her true and loyal fans. If you don't like what you read in a certain topic, you are always free to click on the "x" that is on top of your screen and leave the Forum. I can assure you that lots of people would be pretty much satisfied if that was your decision.

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