DISCUSSION: Stevie's songs from Say You Will

[elle]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

What about "Not Make Believe?"

Should count as extra, same as Love Minus Zero/No Limit (another Lindsey one we forgot to add to that list of additional Lindsey songs!).

[MacShadowsBall]

Originally Posted by elle

Should count as extra, same as Love Minus Zero/No Limit (another Lindsey one we forgot to add to that list of additional Lindsey songs!).

"Not Make Believe" - I never heard of those songs! Where did they come from?

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

"Not Make Believe" - I never heard of those songs! Where did they come from?

They're on the bonus disc in the deluxe edition of SYW.

[MacShadowsBall]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

They're on the bonus disc in the deluxe edition of SYW.

An album with 18 songs had a deluxe edition with a bonus disc!! Um...okay.

[elle]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

An album with 18 songs had a deluxe edition with a bonus disc!! Um...okay.

Great deal, right?

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

An album with 18 songs had a deluxe edition with a bonus disc!! Um...okay.

I think we can thank Lindsey for this. SYW is a single album until you make it a double album.

[tilthefirefades]

I love her songs on SYW, but of course, Silver Girl is my favorite

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

"Not Make Believe" - I never heard of those songs! Where did they come from?

I think the two of them are only on the special/limited editions of SYW?

Can't find them on youtube though. Here's a demo of Not Make Believe

[elle]

Originally Posted by Artemis

I think the two of them are only on the special/limited editions of SYW?

Can't find them on youtube though.

Yeah, the easiest version of LMZ/NL to find is Clapton's live performance - very different from Lindsey's. I love what Lindsey did with guitar parts in it, I guess that's the advantage of his being equally comfortable with electric and acoustic guitar. Although I enjoy Clapton's version - it is great musically, however lacking any emotion imo. Which I guess (emotional detachment) has been main complaint heard about his tours in the last 30 or so years...

[chiliD]

I still think it is pretty hard to top Dylan's original version of "Love Minus Zero/No Limit". Leon Russell's is #2.

The way Lindsey arranged it sounds like he was trying to sound like The Byrds.

[elle]

Originally Posted by chiliD

I still think it is pretty hard to top Dylan's original version of "Love Minus Zero/No Limit". Leon Russell's is #2.

I love the original too! Never heard Leon Russell's and couldn't find it by doing a quick search. But what he did with guitar parts and how they fit with the song is what I really love about Lindsey's version (they seem to be kind of lost with Dylan's, of course there is harmonica there!). Plus for some reason I like the way he pronounces the words when singing this song.

I know there are several other versions too... Either way, what a gorgeous song!

[PenguinHead]

I like listening to the Say You Will album by dividing up Stevie's songs and Lindsey songs as if they are two solo albums.

When you add each of their respective bonus tracks, you essentially get two complete albums. It gives you a different perspective of the songs, making them more accessible in a less cluttered context.

[aleuzzi]

1. Illume
2. Thrown Down
3. Say You Will
4. Smile at You
5. Running Through the Garden
6. Silver Girl
7. Everybody Finds Out
8. Destiny Rules
9. Goodbye Baby

Illume is a great mood piece--and, unlike so many other 9-11 songs--it communicates the emotional turmoil in a genuine, believable way.

Throw Down is a good tune, given added weight by the very smart, effective performance and production.

Say You Will--eh.

Smile at You does not work in this context. Othes have noted that it's better in earlier demos.

Running through Her Garden is okay, nothing too special to me, but I don't skip past it when it's on.

Silver Girl is an all-out bore with really awful words.

Everybody Finds Out may be the best Stevie Performance since Stand Back. It's hot, Hot, HOT.

Destiny Rules is a great tune given simple production. I immediately liked it.

Goodbye Baby is SYW's "When I See You Again"--an intolerable experience.

So, overall, like Lindsey's songs, some great ones and some duds. It's a strange album, with the weakest material kind of sinking into the middle of the running order.