DISCUSSION: Christine's songs from Tusk

[chiliD]

To stress the point...the ENTIRE tracking order of Tusk is GODAWFUL. An entire side without a Christine song? Who's brainchild was that? Miss "I'm Good At Tracking Albums"? Or, "Turner-Boy"? Whoever, they should be shot, ice picks shoved in their ears and shot.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by chiliD

To stress the point...the ENTIRE tracking order of Tusk is GODAWFUL. An entire side without a Christine song? Who's brainchild was that? Miss "I'm Good At Tracking Albums"? Or, "Turner-Boy"? Whoever, they should be shot, ice picks shoved in their ears and shot.

I have to agree... who starts off with a mellow tune...

What's the World Coming To.. also a very bad choice... In fact, the same could be said about the tracking order for SYW.. it's just awful!!!

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I have to agree... who starts off with a mellow tune...

What's the World Coming To.. also a very bad choice... In fact, the same could be said about the tracking order for SYW.. it's just awful!!!

Totally agree there, too.

Other Fleetwood Mac albums that need retracking:

Future Games (retracked):
SANDS OF TIME
MORNING RAIN
LAY IT ALL DOWN
WOMAN OF A THOUSAND YEARS
SOMETIMES
WHAT A SHAME
FUTURE GAMES
SHOW ME A SMILE


Heroes Are Hard To Find (retracked):
COMING HOME
HEROES ARE HARD TO FIND
SHE'S CHANGING ME
BORN ENCHANTER
PROVE YOUR LOVE
ANGEL
BAD LOSER
BERMUDA TRIANGLE
SILVER HEELS
COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER
SAFE HARBOUR


Behind The Mask (retracked):
IN THE BACK OF MY MIND
SAVE ME
FREEDOM
BEHIND THE MASK
WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE
WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN
LOVE IS DANGEROUS
SKIES THE LIMIT
STAND ON THE ROCK (or "Got No Home")
HARD FEELINGS
AFFAIRS OF THE HEART
DO YOU KNOW?
LIZARD PEOPLE

Time (retracked):
I DO
TALKIN' TO MY HEART
I WONDER WHY
WINDS OF CHANGE
SOONER OR LATER
DREAMING THE DREAM
NIGHTS IN ESTORIL
NOTHING WITHOUT YOU
I GOT IT IN FOR YOU
HOLLYWOOD (SOME OTHER KIND OF TOWN)
BLOW BY BLOW
THESE STRANGE TIMES
ALL OVER AGAIN

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, Chili I love Heroes and BTM!!!

[HomerMcvie]

I happen to love the sequencing on Mirage. Flows perfectly...IMO

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I happen to love the sequencing on Mirage. Flows perfectly...IMO

Yeah, Mirage they got right.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Totally agree there, too.

Other Fleetwood Mac albums that need retracking:

Future Games (retracked):
SANDS OF TIME
MORNING RAIN
LAY IT ALL DOWN
WOMAN OF A THOUSAND YEARS
SOMETIMES
WHAT A SHAME
FUTURE GAMES
SHOW ME A SMILE


Heroes Are Hard To Find (retracked):
COMING HOME
HEROES ARE HARD TO FIND
SHE'S CHANGING ME
BORN ENCHANTER
PROVE YOUR LOVE
ANGEL
BAD LOSER
BERMUDA TRIANGLE
SILVER HEELS
COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER
SAFE HARBOUR


Behind The Mask (retracked):
IN THE BACK OF MY MIND
SAVE ME
FREEDOM
BEHIND THE MASK
WHEN IT COMES TO LOVE
WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN
LOVE IS DANGEROUS
SKIES THE LIMIT
STAND ON THE ROCK (or "Got No Home")
HARD FEELINGS
AFFAIRS OF THE HEART
DO YOU KNOW?
LIZARD PEOPLE

Time (retracked):
I DO
TALKIN' TO MY HEART
I WONDER WHY
WINDS OF CHANGE
SOONER OR LATER
DREAMING THE DREAM
NIGHTS IN ESTORIL
NOTHING WITHOUT YOU
I GOT IT IN FOR YOU
HOLLYWOOD (SOME OTHER KIND OF TOWN)
BLOW BY BLOW
THESE STRANGE TIMES
ALL OVER AGAIN

Nice! You did a great job! I wish I could my disc player would allow me to reprogram the squence of songs. I could do that with my old cd player..but now I only have a DVD/CD player and it doesn't have a manual control. How would you sequence Say You Will...with the bonus tracks!?

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Nice! You did a great job! I wish I could my disc player would allow me to reprogram the squence of songs. I could do that with my old cd player..but now I only have a DVD/CD player and it doesn't have a manual control. How would you sequence Say You Will...with the bonus tracks!?

Thanks! Don't have my iPod with me at the moment...since I have to make a trip back home during my lunch hour, I'll post my SYW tracking order this afternoon.

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Heroes definitely should have been sequenced differently. I like the idea of starting with Coming Home.

It was their opening number at a few of the shows on the '74 tour, so I figured why not open the album with it, too?

Oh...when I got home last night, I was listening to Heroes.... I was going from memory when I posted that one (& hadn't listened to the album in a while)...I erred. Here's my actual retracking:

COMING HOME
HEROES ARE HARD TO FIND
SHE'S CHANGING ME
PROVE YOUR LOVE
SILVER HEELS
BORN ENCHANTER
BAD LOSER
BERMUDA TRIANGLE
ANGEL
COME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER
SAFE HARBOUR

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

"I Do" is a weird song to start Time with, in my opinion. Talking to My Heart was the right one. In fact, I think Time is pretty well tracked overall.

Disagree. The way Time was tracked, it accentuated the disjointedness of the album. I think my version smooths out the album and makes it more of a cohesive statement. "I Do" was the single...so it just makes sense to open the album with it; plus, lyrically it sets up the rest of the album and Christine's closing statement in "All Over Again".

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Other well-tracked Mac albums (besides Mirage and Rumours): Tango in the Night, Bare Trees, Fleetwood Mac/White Album, Kiln House, and English Rose.

Agree to a point. Re: Tango..., with the songs chosen for the album, yes, it's tracked pretty well. However, after hearing the 45 B-sides, I think they could've swapped out a couple of those tunes for the weaker tunes on the album which would've mandated a an overhaul to the tracking order.

[jbrownsjr]

I like this Heroes ^^^ even better Chili...

Book ends very nicely..

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by chiliD

To stress the point...the ENTIRE tracking order of Tusk is GODAWFUL. An entire side without a Christine song? Who's brainchild was that? Miss "I'm Good At Tracking Albums"? Or, "Turner-Boy"? Whoever, they should be shot, ice picks shoved in their ears and shot.

I laughed when I read this. Your cracks at Stevie and Lindsey really are humorous.

[TrueFaith77]

Two of my friends responded to this query. I thought their responses were interesting, PARTICULARLY my Friend #2's distillation of Tusk.

Friend #1:

Part of the difficulty is Christine's consistent songwriting excellence which immediately points to her deft grasp of the lite-pop idiom that shines in "Think About Me" and "Never Forget." I always thought "Over and Over" was the most exquisitely produced track on Tusk which leaves the profoundly simple (simply profound?) "Honey Hi" and the amazing sensuality of "Brown Eyes." Up against the wall, I'd have to pick "Over and Over."

Friend #2:

I'm gonna say "Never Forget" - which I never thought I'd say - this is after listening to Tusk twice all the way through

Then, after hearing the result of the poll:

I think "Brown Eyes" was my favorite after the FIRST listen. I mean, it's all perfect! Among so many other things, the album is a peerless epic of friendship. The purely spiritual harmonies that link Lindsey, Stevie, and Christine's voices and perspectives also validate each individual performer/songwriter's deepest humanity. On Rumours, each of the three certainly had a compelling story to tell; on Tusk, each one comes to represent a distinct state of lovers' consciousness.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

Two of my friends responded to this query. I thought their responses were interesting, PARTICULARLY my Friend #2's distillation of Tusk.

Friend #1:



Friend #2:



Then, after hearing the result of the poll:

wow I like those reviews...