Pre-Rumours MacNuggets

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by slipkid

They aren't very scholarly since the "Oh Well" solo is Danny Kirwan, not Peter Green.

I did not know this for sure, but it doesn't surprise me in the least.

[vivfox]

For all that it is one of his staples, Black Magic Woman is actually a 1970 cover of a 1968 Fleetwood Mac rendition written by Peter Green. A medley with Gabor Szabo's 1966 Gypsy Queen, Santana's version works in exotic Hungarian rhythms with folk and latin strains. The album Abraxas, on which Black Magic Woman appeared, went to #1 and quadruple platinum, largely on the strength of the song.

It is possible, however obliquely, that the song was partly responsible for Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac. After it was released, Green reputedly befriended some people who were actually into black magic. In an interview with Cameron Crowe of Rolling Stone magazine, Christine McVie said these were the people who turned him on to acid, which led to Green leaving Fleetwood Mac.

http://www.wnew.com/2010/06/video-cl...n-santana.html

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by vivfox

For all that it is one of his staples, Black Magic Woman is actually a 1970 cover of a 1968 Fleetwood Mac rendition written by Peter Green. A medley with Gabor Szabo's 1966 Gypsy Queen, Santana's version works in exotic Hungarian rhythms with folk and latin strains. The album Abraxas, on which Black Magic Woman appeared, went to #1 and quadruple platinum, largely on the strength of the song.

It is possible, however obliquely, that the song was partly responsible for Peter Green leaving Fleetwood Mac. After it was released, Green reputedly befriended some people who were actually into black magic. In an interview with Cameron Crowe of Rolling Stone magazine, Christine McVie said these were the people who turned him on to acid, which led to Green leaving Fleetwood Mac.

Out of respect, the story is Carlos Santana visited Peter Green while the band was recording "The Green Manalishi" in London, 4/70. He asked Peter Green's permission to cover "Black Magic Woman". The "black magic" came before in Munich, 3/70 on a tour of Europe.

I still say Munich is a Fleetwood Mac fairytale to explain the actions of a band leader who didn't want to be in a famous rock band, with a lot of phonies (agents, producers, managers). Peter saw through all that b.s. at the time. While his drug abuse at the time led to his mental breakdown (three-four years later), Peter Green was playing at the top of his game the day he left Fleetwood Mac. Green even came back to replace Jeremy Spencer later winter/early spring U.S. tour 1971. That infamous Fillmore East concert is legendary from those who attended.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by slipkid

Out of respect, the story is Carlos Santana visited Peter Green while the band was recording "The Green Manalishi" in London, 4/70. He asked Peter Green's permission to cover "Black Magic Woman". The "black magic" came before in Munich, 3/70 on a tour of Europe. .

Santana's "BMW" was recorded & released in 1969, so that "story" of Carlos asking permission while FMac was recording "Green Manalishi" is bullsh**.

Originally Posted by slipkid

The irony of this blog post is that Peter Green's special "tone" wasn't heard until he formed Fleetwood Mac. While the blogger lists examples of tone (he does give credit to playing, barely), from John Mayall's "A Hard Road", it's still a factory stock '59 Les Paul. At the very least, the neck pickup was missing. ks.

Really? Then what do you call "The Supernatural"??? Also, listen to tracks from the Deluxe Edition of A Hard Road...the "quack" was there on tracks like "Greeny", "Rubber Duck" & "Curly"...well, before Fleetwood Mac was formed.

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Santana's "BMW" was recorded & released in 1969, so that "story" of Carlos asking permission while FMac was recording "Green Manalishi" is bullsh**..

Sorry, "Abraxas" (including "Black Magic Woman") wasn't released until 9/70, four months after Peter Green left Fleetwood Mac. I didn't pull that anecdote from thin air, have you read the Christopher Hjort book on the British Blues movement? That book has been a godsend compiling media publications from the period, and pasting them together into a cohesive story about that great period from '65-'70 with Mayall, Cream, FM, Derek and the Dominoes, and the Stones.

Originally Posted by chiliD

Really? Then what do you call "The Supernatural"??? Also, listen to tracks from the Deluxe Edition of A Hard Road...the "quack" was there on tracks like "Greeny", "Rubber Duck" & "Curly"...well, before Fleetwood Mac was formed.

I have the deluxe edition of "A Hard Road", and all the tracks you mention do not have that "tone". First off, "The Supernatural" was done in the fall of '66 as it was part of the original "AHR" album. Peter Green didn't have his pickup problem until at least late winter/early spring '67. You're confusing echo with "out of phase". "Greeny" to my ears is pure bridge tone, as are "Rubber Duck", & especially "Curly". "Curly" sounds like Jeff Beck so that immediately rules out "out of phase".


The second track from "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac", play it now if you own it ("Merry Go Round")! That's is "THE TONE"! It's thin, and honky, there is no John Mayall song with Peter Green that has that tone.

BTW, why are you defending that blog? The guy was completely clueless. You of all people should've known that, or at least I thought you did. Now I wonder.

[chiliD]

I wasn't defending anything....I'm more of a prosecutor.

Just yankin' yo' chain. I was just being "full o' crap". Just trying to get a response. "Let's see what happens if I jab with this stick" kinda thing.

Like the Monty Python skit: "Uh....I'd like to have an argument please...."

"No it isn't"

"Yes it is"

"No it isn't"

[Wouter Vuijk]

Originally Posted by chiliD

I wasn't defending anything....I'm more of a prosecutor.

Just yankin' yo' chain. I was just being "full o' crap". Just trying to get a response. "Let's see what happens if I jab with this stick" kinda thing.

Like the Monty Python skit: "Uh....I'd like to have an argument please...."

"No it isn't"

"Yes it is"

"No it isn't"

Marvellous:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

[slipkid]

Originally Posted by chiliD

I wasn't defending anything....I'm more of a prosecutor.

Just yankin' yo' chain. I was just being "full o' crap". Just trying to get a response. "Let's see what happens if I jab with this stick" kinda thing.

Like the Monty Python skit: "Uh....I'd like to have an argument please...."

"No it isn't"

"Yes it is"

"No it isn't"

Thanks for making me feel like Dr. Temperance Brennan, while you're Seeley Booth. (Netflix turned me into a "Bones" fan)


"Thank YOU Bicycle Repair Man!"

"My hovercraft is full of eels."

"'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!! " haha


This is my favorite MPFC sketch, it's a mockumentary on a boxer named Ken Clean Air Systems;


"Every morning, he jogs the forty-seven miles from his two-bedroomed, eight-bathroom, six-up-two-down, three-to-go-house in Reigate, to the Government's Pesticide Research Centre at Shoreham. Nobody knows why."