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Old 04-30-2010, 02:13 AM
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The following comments are made strickly from my point of view and are not based in any way, shape or form on anything John McVie has specifically said anywhere that I am aware of. These comments are strictly my interpretation of how John feels based on watching him in interviews and reading a very limited amount of things he's said on the subject (which I can't quote because I don't have the material). That being said:

It is my belief that John doesn't hate Peter. I think he genuinely hates those who provided Peter with the LSD and whatever other substances he injested in Munich. I think John may be disappointed in Peter for taking the drugs and later leaving the band, but I don't really think he hates Peter. John is very bitter about the fact that Peter was given those drugs and that it had such a devastating effect on Peter. It's my personal belief that John (and maybe even Mick) would have stuck with Peter had it not been for the "Munich incident" and kept the band together, moving more into the vein of "jam band" with a blues vibe to it. Certainly a good number of their songs (Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, Green Manalishi, I Loved Another Woman, and others) lend themselves well to "jamming" guitar solos that can go on for ages.

Even today, if Peter were to agree to a session either in the studio or on stage with Mick and John, I think John would jump at the chance.

Again, just my opinion based on watching John in interviews and so on. Nothing concrete to base any of my comments on at all. Just a feeling I have about it.
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The following comments are made strickly from my point of view and are not based in any way, shape or form on anything John McVie has specifically said anywhere that I am aware of. These comments are strictly my interpretation of how John feels based on watching him in interviews and reading a very limited amount of things he's said on the subject (which I can't quote because I don't have the material). That being said:

It is my belief that John doesn't hate Peter. I think he genuinely hates those who provided Peter with the LSD and whatever other substances he injested in Munich. I think John may be disappointed in Peter for taking the drugs and later leaving the band, but I don't really think he hates Peter. John is very bitter about the fact that Peter was given those drugs and that it had such a devastating effect on Peter. It's my personal belief that John (and maybe even Mick) would have stuck with Peter had it not been for the "Munich incident" and kept the band together, moving more into the vein of "jam band" with a blues vibe to it. Certainly a good number of their songs (Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, Green Manalishi, I Loved Another Woman, and others) lend themselves well to "jamming" guitar solos that can go on for ages.

Even today, if Peter were to agree to a session either in the studio or on stage with Mick and John, I think John would jump at the chance.

Again, just my opinion based on watching John in interviews and so on. Nothing concrete to base any of my comments on at all. Just a feeling I have about it.
Yes, McVie's feelings are surely coloured by what happened in spring 1970. Maybe Mick and John would have stuck with Peter, but Peter didn't want to play with them anymore!
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Yes, McVie's feelings are surely coloured by what happened in spring 1970. Maybe Mick and John would have stuck with Peter, but Peter didn't want to play with them anymore!
I respectfully disagree. I think Peter would have stuck with John and Mick had they been willing to branch out in the same direction Peter was wanting to go at that time. I don't think Spencer would have gone along, but at this point, who cares?!
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I respectfully disagree. I think Peter would have stuck with John and Mick had they been willing to branch out in the same direction Peter was wanting to go at that time. I don't think Spencer would have gone along, but at this point, who cares?!

Peter Green was a man of the late 60's blues rock movement. He was not a member of the post-Woodstock era of rock music. Peter Green didn't like how ticket prices were rising for audiences to pay for larger PA systems. He was soundly rejected by the rest of FM when he floated the idea of donating more money for charity. I think that was the final nail in the coffin. It only took a free spirit party at a hippie mansion to convince Green that he needed to leave FM. What the rest of FM didn't realize is that Peter was "punched" in the stomach when the other members' of FM rejected his charity plan. In 1970, you'd think Green was completely nuts. Today, he would be seen as an humanitarian.
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