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Old 04-16-2010, 12:09 AM
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I have a demo (I think) of this song. I got it from someone here on The Ledge. Anyway, it is my favorite version of the song. It's different than the actual studio version because the harmonies are so much more prominent. I wish I could remember more info.....I'll try to find it!


****I looked it up, and the "CD" is labeled "Staying True", anyway, this is the best version of the song I've heard!!****[/B][/B]

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Old 04-16-2010, 02:31 AM
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I have a demo (I think) of this song. I got it from someone here on The Ledge. Anyway, it is my favorite version of the song. It's different than the actual studio version because the harmonies are so much more prominent. I wish I could remember more info.....I'll try to find it!


****I looked it up, and the "CD" is labeled "Staying True", anyway, this is the best version of the song I've heard!!****[/B][/B]
Would you be able to post this? I don't think I have it
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Old 04-16-2010, 03:28 AM
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Actually, the term "Daddy" was often used by women in the 60's and 70's to refer to their partners. I think it was more along the lines of how they say a man always marries his mother, in other words, he looks for the traits of his mother in the women he's later attracted to. So I guess it would work for women who had been "Daddy's little girl" to grow up and look for the attributes of her father in the men they would be with.

In the gay scene there are often couples in which a younger guy dates an older guy and calls him "Daddy", not in an incestuous way but just in the way that the older man is a father figure to him.

Speaking of Christine's use of the word Daddy, she also uses it in Honey Hi where she sings "Daddy, all I'm trying to tell you".
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:15 AM
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Actually, the term "Daddy" was often used by women in the 60's and 70's to refer to their partners. I think it was more along the lines of how they say a man always marries his mother, in other words, he looks for the traits of his mother in the women he's later attracted to. So I guess it would work for women who had been "Daddy's little girl" to grow up and look for the attributes of her father in the men they would be with.

In the gay scene there are often couples in which a younger guy dates an older guy and calls him "Daddy", not in an incestuous way but just in the way that the older man is a father figure to him.

Speaking of Christine's use of the word Daddy, she also uses it in Honey Hi where she sings "Daddy, all I'm trying to tell you".
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Old 04-16-2010, 10:32 AM
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In a culture where Sylvia Plath can write a poem called "Daddy" about everyfather, everylover, everyman, Christine's gorgeous song is an amazing contribution to the archetypal "daddy" which is not, in this song, a literal father but a father figure: the girl seeking a father through her lover. Is it complex? Yes. Is it abnormal? No. This is one of Christine's most poignant, poetic songs. Saying it is about incestral rape is reducing the lyrics to a most brutal literalism. As the great writer Barry Lopez once said: "one's inability to read metaphor signals the death of the soul."

If I sound highfalutin' here, it's because this song moves me in ways so few songs do.
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:08 PM
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Saying it is about incestral rape is reducing the lyrics to a most brutal literalism. As the great writer Barry Lopez once said: "one's inability to read metaphor signals the death of the soul."
I was teasing by the way... . I have a twisted sense of humor that probably escapes most people. And when I think something I see is silly, I respond with equal absurdity .

For those who take what I say too literally instead of snickering at the metaphor: I adore this song... it's one of her deepest lyrical Mac contributions in my book. And one of her most beautiful songs to boot.
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:49 PM
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Actually, the term "Daddy" was often used by women in the 60's and 70's to refer to their partners. I think it was more along the lines of how they say a man always marries his mother, in other words, he looks for the traits of his mother in the women he's later attracted to. So I guess it would work for women who had been "Daddy's little girl" to grow up and look for the attributes of her father in the men they would be with.

In the gay scene there are often couples in which a younger guy dates an older guy and calls him "Daddy", not in an incestuous way but just in the way that the older man is a father figure to him.

Speaking of Christine's use of the word Daddy, she also uses it in Honey Hi where she sings "Daddy, all I'm trying to tell you".
And there's also her famous Sugar Daddy.

Even when there's not a vast difference in age or authority between the partners, they sometimes refer to each other as "mommy" or "daddy." It often happens when they have children and when the toddler is learning to talk, to help them with words you might say, "give Daddy the spoon." Next thing you know, it's 20 years later and you're still calling your hubby, "Daddy!"

Ronald Reagan used to call Nancy, "mommy."

I don't think there's anything unusual it at all. It's common, but I also think it's creepy.

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I'd heard Stevie refer to Lindsey as her "old man" back in the 1970's in some article or another. I would never refer to my man that way but I would not have a problem with the word "daddy."
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And don't forget, she loves her "Sugar Daddy," too.
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And don't forget, she loves her "Sugar Daddy," too.
Jeepers, what is this? Pick on Christine's lyrics week?
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Why that's the most accurate descriptor of myself that I've heard from someone in a long time! You're right on the money there!
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I have a demo (I think) of this song. I got it from someone here on The Ledge. Anyway, it is my favorite version of the song. It's different than the actual studio version because the harmonies are so much more prominent. I wish I could remember more info.....I'll try to find it!


****I looked it up, and the "CD" is labeled "Staying True", anyway, this is the best version of the song I've heard!!****[/B][/B]
I think thats the version on Disc 2 of the Rumours Reissue.
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Old 04-17-2010, 08:21 AM
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I have always loved this song. I was thrilled when they played it live for the Dance. Second favorite Christine song with Fleetwood Mac -after, of course, Over My Head.
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I am absolutely certain there is no incestuous meaning in the song, and I'm mostly certain that it has nothing to do with Mick Fleetwood. Does anyone have the quote where Mick claimed it was about him?

Christine's musical origins were in the blues, and the term "daddy" is routinely used by women blues singers to their lovers. Bessie Smith, a great blues singer of the '20s, had a song called "Oh Daddy." You can look it up.

I believe that Christine uses the term "daddy" in this song in the way the old time blues singers did, and the same way a male singer might say "mama" to mean a lover. There's nothing creepy about it whatsoever. In fact, the term gives the song an old-time, authentic, adult emotional feel.
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I am absolutely certain there is no incestuous meaning in the song, and I'm mostly certain that it has nothing to do with Mick Fleetwood. Does anyone have the quote where Mick claimed it was about him?
Although I think I may also have seen it elsewhere, I definitely remember it from the Making of Rumours DVD.
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