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Old 03-07-2010, 10:37 PM
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Bland? Mediocre? Uninspired? Unimpressed? Forgettable? Any of those working for you?

Yeah, it's not terrible. But I definitely wouldn't call it good either.
How about the word Truthful. That is the word that comes to mind listening to that snippet and it's just as boring as any Tom Petty song.
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:39 PM
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Explain to me how it could be that those who have expressed dislike or apathy to the song are being "unfair" because they have heard only 39 seconds of it, yet your opinion that it is good is valid. That's more than a tad hypocritical. You've heard the same 39 seconds the rest of us have.

Um... please re-read. Nicksphan never said the song was "good." Rather, he/she just made observations about the snippet.

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Old 03-07-2010, 10:43 PM
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Well, it's no Call On Me for Magic, but it doesn't make me want to gouge my eyes out with a screwdriver either. What's the best way to describe the feeling?
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Bland? Mediocre? Uninspired? Unimpressed? Forgettable? Any of those working for you?

Yeah, it's not terrible. But I definitely wouldn't call it good either.
i think that feeling is just called ... "stevie."

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Explain to me how it could be that those who have expressed dislike or apathy to the song are being "unfair" because they have heard only 39 seconds of it, yet your opinion that it is good is valid. That's more than a tad hypocritical. You've heard the same 39 seconds the rest of us have.

don't you know that an opinion about stevie is only valid if it's not a negative one?
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:00 PM
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Explain to me how it could be that those who have expressed dislike or apathy to the song are being "unfair" because they have heard only 39 seconds of it, yet your opinion that it is good is valid. That's more than a tad hypocritical. You've heard the same 39 seconds the rest of us have.

I knew as I was writing my post that I was setting myself up for this question. Again, based on the short snippet we've heard, I am encouraged by the quality of her vocal, the harmonizing with DS and the sentiment of the lyric. The three lines we've heard are simply a small indication of what the song as a whole may be like. I am well aware that she still needs to deliver the goods in the form of a finished product. Keep in mind, I didn't say the song is a masterpiece. What I said was I am looking forward to hearing the rest of the song because from what I've heard, I think there is a lot of potential.

For those who said they don't like the instrumentation or DS's vocals or anything specific to the demo, I totally respect that and certainly didn't mean to imply that I had an issue with these critiques. But when you used the words "bland, uninspired, unimpressed and forgettable," I got the impression that you have already dismissed the song as a throwaway. What I was trying to say in my post was I think it is premature to completely write off the song based on the little bit that we've heard.

All I am saying is give ELY a chance.
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:04 PM
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I like the lyrics...I'm sure if it gets to album stage, the arragement will be quite different.
I'm THRILLED she is working on something new for us. Your fans thank you Stevie!!
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:01 AM
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Um... please re-read. Nicksphan never said the song was "good." Rather, he/she just made observations about the snippet.

I wasn't quoting Nicksphan. I was simply summing up the general positive tone of his/her post regarding the snippet.

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don't you know that an opinion about stevie is only valid if it's not a negative one?
Yeah, I've kind of gotten that impression over the years.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:25 AM
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I got the impression that you have already dismissed the song as a throwaway. What I was trying to say in my post was I think it is premature to completely write off the song based on the little bit that we've heard.
Though I didn't really like what I heard with this demo, you do bring up a good point. I remember hearing a snippet of "Say You Will" before the album of the same name was released, and thought it was a turd to be flushed too. But the song in it's entirety was a bubbly, cute little song. I totally did a 180 with that. Who's to say us naysayers won't like the full version of "Everybody Loves You?" It's definitely important to remember we're hearing a DEMO, too. Most of Stevie's demos are bland, quiet, slow, wandering, and unexciting. But they absolutely blossom with production (some, not all). We'll just have to see. I for one am glad she's messing with new material, period. If she ends up making an album that's not as good as or better than TISL, I might reverse that position though!
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:36 AM
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I knew as I was writing my post that I was setting myself up for this question. Again, based on the short snippet we've heard, I am encouraged by the quality of her vocal, the harmonizing with DS and the sentiment of the lyric. The three lines we've heard are simply a small indication of what the song as a whole may be like. I am well aware that she still needs to deliver the goods in the form of a finished product. Keep in mind, I didn't say the song is a masterpiece. What I said was I am looking forward to hearing the rest of the song because from what I've heard, I think there is a lot of potential.

For those who said they don't like the instrumentation or DS's vocals or anything specific to the demo, I totally respect that and certainly didn't mean to imply that I had an issue with these critiques. But when you used the words "bland, uninspired, unimpressed and forgettable," I got the impression that you have already dismissed the song as a throwaway. What I was trying to say in my post was I think it is premature to completely write off the song based on the little bit that we've heard.

All I am saying is give ELY a chance.
Guess what? You are not alone. I'm encouraged by it too. I think it sounds pretty good. The people who don't like probably want weirder stuff. To me, this is pretty straightforward HONEST stuff. Plus, I like the vocal and the backing music.
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:53 AM
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Do we know yet for what project this demo was recorded?
Sounds like a donated track for the CD of the Organization for Sufferers of Post-Nasal Drip, due out next year.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:32 PM
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Sounds like a donated track for the CD of the Organization for Sufferers of Post-Nasal Drip, due out next year.
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There are many unreleased Stevie songs that I would love to see the light of day, but "She Loves Hims Still" more than any seems like a perfect fit for her and Dave if he were to actually sign on for production duties.
Well don't quote me on this but I believe "She Loves Him Still" is Stevie adding lyrics and singing to a Mark Knopfler instrumental track. The (unconfirmed) story goes that Knopfler refused to let Stevie use it in any shape or form so I wouldn't expect a release anytime soon. A shame, that.

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Does Mike Bise know the real story behind "She Still Loves Him"?
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:52 PM
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Does Mike Bise know the real story behind "She Still Loves Him"?

He must. Can anyone tell us about Mike Bise?
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:16 PM
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He must. Can anyone tell us about Mike Bise?
What's the story with this Mike Bise person?
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:31 PM
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Some loser.

Stevie is the author of "She Still Loves Him", lyrics and music. The copyright says so. If the music has Knopfler playing and refuses to allow release, Stevie could always re-record without him. Or edit him off. If he's even on it.

I've never heard "the story" about this being MK's track. Again, Stevie Nicks wrote the music & lyrics. She even quotes herself in Enchanted.
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