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Old 01-13-2010, 01:33 PM
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Empire State is probably in my top 5 Lindsey songs >_>

I wish they would re-release Mirage and put in Smile At You and If You Were My Love, then it would be a really really amazing album. It annoys me how Stevie's songs are (in my opinion) the best on the album, yet she only gets three, while Lindsey gets more songs and most of them are horrific (Oh Diane, anyone? Awful song)

Smile At You is best in the Mirage-era demos. I think it's totally, utterly, ruined in Say You Will. I like to pretend it never happened >_>

Edit - Woo, just as I posted this, I get Mirage and Street Angel through my letter box. Huzzah for ebay! =D

I suspect that at the time Stevie was probably doing her nobless oblige and allowing the other writers to get a larger chunk of the publishing since she had just made a mint off of BD. Plus, whatever didn't get used by FM went directly to her solo career. Mama was at the peak of her powers creatively and commercially, and probably had no time or inclination for band politics. She "tread with gossamer wings."
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:58 PM
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I suspect that at the time Stevie was probably doing her nobless oblige and allowing the other writers to get a larger chunk of the publishing since she had just made a mint off of BD. Plus, whatever didn't get used by FM went directly to her solo career. Mama was at the peak of her powers creatively and commercially, and probably had no time or inclination for band politics. She "tread with gossamer wings."
Pretty image, fit for a fairytale. But according to the David Gans article in Record, Nicks wasn't showing up often enough at the Larrabee sessions to get much more than that recorded.
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Old 01-13-2010, 03:13 PM
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Pretty image, fit for a fairytale. But according to the David Gans article in Record, Nicks wasn't showing up often enough at the Larrabee sessions to get much more than that recorded.
My recollection was that they were all holed up in a rented house in France to get Mirage finished. Still, Stevie could have easily had a terrific fourth song on that album in lieu of one of the fluffer-nutter pieces shat out by Lindsey or Christine, especially since she had newfound leverage within the band to demand things. With a little additional tinkering, "If You Were My Love" and/or "Smile at You" could have been hit singles.
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My recollection was that they were all holed up in a rented house in France to get Mirage finished. Still, Stevie could have easily had a terrific fourth song on that album in lieu of one of the fluffer-nutter pieces shat out by Lindsey or Christine, especially since she had newfound leverage within the band to demand things. With a little additional tinkering, "If You Were My Love" and/or "Smile at You" could have been hit singles.
I remember reading an article published by the magazine Record after Mirage was released where the band were all moaning about the fact that Stevie wasn't around much. It may be in the archives on this site.

Personally I don't think Smile At You or If You Were My Love would have fit on Mirage, as good as they are. I actually like all of Mirage though, I'm with HomerMcVie on this one.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:54 PM
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I remember reading an article published by the magazine Record after Mirage was released where the band were all moaning about the fact that Stevie wasn't around much. It may be in the archives on this site.
Are you sure it was Mirage? You aren't confusing that scenario with Tango In The Night?
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I LOVE Straight Back. I bought the album the day it was released so I heard the original version first. In 1983 I was friends with a girl who had the cassette and when I heard her version I was majorly impressed. Some of you felt it was overproduced in its second incarnation, but to me they made it more perfect. I love this song today as I first did in 1982.
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Are you sure it was Mirage? You aren't confusing that scenario with Tango In The Night?
The article I remember was definitely about Mirage. I think it started back with Mirage but was even worse during the making of Tango.

Edit: found it, http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph...v2&id=184&c=11
I guess they are talking about the tour and the interview but I think it's certainly implied that it's something that happens in the studio too, all the "she gets bored in the studio" talk.
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In re: to "Gypsy"- the "Mirage" recording is great. They maximized/squeezed every ounce of potential out of that song- I mean, going WAY beyond just polishing the turd that is the BD version. Its not the band's fault "Gypsy" flopped as a single.

By that point, Stevie actively considered Fleetwood Mac a nuisance that interfered with her burgeoning solo career. She spent 1982 on auto-pilot, and kept the best material for herself.
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Wow. What an informative article. It seemed to me that Mick, Lindsey and Christine told Stevie exactly how they felt about her, through the press.
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The article I remember was definitely about Mirage. I think it started back with Mirage but was even worse during the making of Tango.

Edit: found it, http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph...v2&id=184&c=11
I guess they are talking about the tour and the interview but I think it's certainly implied that it's something that happens in the studio too, all the "she gets bored in the studio" talk.
Wow, some of those comments were pretty harsh, poor Stevie, didn't they know that Robin was you know- kinda dying at this point it time...

Ease up a little.. it's the Lindsey and Christine bitching machine
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