Eagles / Fleetwood Mac Dream Pairing Eyed For Stadiums

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Is it true that Glen is a MAJOR germ freak and wont shake peoples hands

I have met Glenn Frey on several occasions and not only does he shake people's hands, he sometimes hugs 'em and kisses 'em on the cheek. This rumor probably has as much veracity as the rumor that Stevie had roadies blow cocaine up her butt.

As some of you guys may remember, I got to meet all the current members of Fleetwood Mac and talk to Lindsey "off-duty" at a hotel bar in Chicago. None have been as kind to me as Glenn was (although I can't fault them, as they were indeed friendly - just not AS friendly). Lindsey does the hugging and occasional kissing of cheeks too, but Glenn has gone beyond even that.

Originally Posted by Homer McVie

Until Don H and Glenn put their foot down(which resulted in the firing of Felder, since he wouldn't agree to the "new deal"), touring revenues were split EVENLY among all 5 members. Don and Glenn realized that they could force the others to agree to make less(they now make 40/40/10/10%, since Felder's out of the picture). Before, it was 5 even 20%'s.
And yes, it's true that after Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left, that the Eagles "corporation", only consisted of Henley, Frey, and Felder. So even though touring revenues were split evenly, merch and the like, weren't options for Joe and Tim.
Sooo, on one hand, you can't blame Felder, for wanting to go from 20%, to 10. BUT, he never realized that they were gonna can him, if he didn't agree to the deal. He tried to beg his way back in, but what was done, was done(there had been bad blood between Felder and Frey, for years).

According to Felder's book, revenues weren't split evenly from the outset of the Hell Freezes Over reunion. Glenn and Don told Felder "We can do this without you, so either you accept 1/7 instead of 1/5, or we'll exclude you from the reunion." (the breakdown: Henley - 2/7, Frey - 2/7, Felder - 1/7, Schmit 1/7, Walsh 1/7.) Felder did the math, realized the amount of money he'd still be making, and said yes... thinking to use his leverage once he was in the band to go back to 1/5. He was kidding himself - that didn't happen. He complained, but sucked it up. When they tried to cut him out of some other business deals in 1999 before the release of a new box set and a new tour with the possibility of a new studio album, he made a bigger stink... and they fired him. He did indeed try to beg his way back in but when that didn't work, he sued. They reached a settlement in 2006 for an undisclosed amount.

Since I got most of this from Felder's book, he may be fudging details - who knows.

[DavidMn]

Lisa and Nancy, thank you for correcting me. I had heard that about GLen but if its not true its good to know thank you.

[sodascouts]

David, you know I wouldn't lie to you.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

David, you know I wouldn't lie to you.

Oh I know Nancy no worries.

[LB is the man]

i thought ticket prices for the FM tour were very over priced, imagine how much for them and the Eagles...yikes

[Spikey]

I wouldn't want to meet Stevie over Lindsey in a meet and greet.. no way! LB all the way.

Felder was a reason the Eagles got big, he plays a mean guitar, but I always thought he contributed to his own demise. Frey/Henley is what people go to see primarily, same with B/N with FM. in the end they're gonna have the pull/influence.


What's the latest on the infamous 'dream pairing'? Anyone heard anything?

- Spike

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

According to Felder's book, revenues weren't split evenly from the outset of the Hell Freezes Over reunion. Glenn and Don told Felder "We can do this without you, so either you accept 1/7 instead of 1/5, or we'll exclude you from the reunion." (the breakdown: Henley - 2/7, Frey - 2/7, Felder - 1/7, Schmit 1/7, Walsh 1/7.) Felder did the math, realized the amount of money he'd still be making, and said yes... thinking to use his leverage once he was in the band to go back to 1/5. He was kidding himself - that didn't happen. He complained, but sucked it up. When they tried to cut him out of some other business deals in 1999 before the release of a new box set and a new tour with the possibility of a new studio album, he made a bigger stink... and they fired him. He did indeed try to beg his way back in but when that didn't work, he sued. They reached a settlement in 2006 for an undisclosed amount.

Since I got most of this from Felder's book, he may be fudging details - who knows.

It's been quite some time, since I read Don's book.
And although Felder is my favorite Eagle, I can't help but think, that he MUST HAVE been some sort of pain in the ass, for it to have come to his firing. Surely it was about more than just money. It almost bothers me, reading his book, that I can't help but think of what he's NOT saying about himself.......if he were the (almost) saint that he portrays himself, how could Glenn have not liked him?

"Hey pal, three more songs, til I kick your ass!" - Glenn Frey

[HenleyFan]

What we heard from people "in the know" at the time was that because Felder was unhappy with the money situation he started causing other problems, like threatening to not show up at the Millennium shows (in his book he says he was ill....I was 4 feet from him during one of the Vegas shows....he was not ill at all), not wanting to participate in recording sessions......and just generally dragging his feet about everything and being a complete pain in the ass. That's why he was fired.......not because of the money. There was a clause in the contract they all signed that said they wouldn't do things to hurt the band. So that's how they got him.

I agree, Felder went out of his way to make himself look good in his book.....really makes you wonder about the guy.........

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It's been quite some time, since I read Don's book.
And although Felder is my favorite Eagle, I can't help but think, that he MUST HAVE been some sort of pain in the ass, for it to have come to his firing. Surely it was about more than just money. It almost bothers me, reading his book, that I can't help but think of what he's NOT saying about himself.......if he were the (almost) saint that he portrays himself, how could Glenn have not liked him?

"Hey pal, three more songs, til I kick your ass!" - Glenn Frey

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by HenleyFan

What we heard from people "in the know" at the time was that because Felder was unhappy with the money situation he started causing other problems, like threatening to not show up at the Millennium shows (in his book he says he was ill....I was 4 feet from him during one of the Vegas shows....he was not ill at all), not wanting to participate in recording sessions......and just generally dragging his feet about everything and being a complete pain in the ass. That's why he was fired.......not because of the money. There was a clause in the contract they all signed that said they wouldn't do things to hurt the band. So that's how they got him.

I agree, Felder went out of his way to make himself look good in his book.....really makes you wonder about the guy.........

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Yeah, I always figured he HAD to be difficult, or it couldn't have ended like it did. But, I've read so much about Henley being a big pain in the ass, too. Although he's usually nice to fans.
"No one can suck the fun out of a room, quicker than Don Henley" - Glenn Frey

But for me, the reason I was so upset at Felder's firing, was his guitar playing. For me, he just SMOKES Joe Walsh! Joe plays licks like I play. Nothing really special, that really stands out. Don came up with some BRILLIANT solos. BRILLIANT! That's why I hated to see him go.

[HenleyFan]

I have to defend Henley here a little. Yes, he can be "difficult", but having been a fan for over 20 years now I feel I can say he has definitely mellowed. We have a few contacts with people who work directly for him so we tend to get the Don side of things, but it really seems like Don bends over backwards to appease Frey on a lot of issues. Of course I'm sure if we heard from people who work for Glenn, they'd say just the opposite.

I really can't say I miss Felder all that much in the band. Yes, he's a great guitar player, but I really prefer Joe's playing. It's more organic and not as pristine sounding as Felder's playing....if that makes sense. I'm not a musician.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Yeah, I always figured he HAD to be difficult, or it couldn't have ended like it did. But, I've read so much about Henley being a big pain in the ass, too. Although he's usually nice to fans.
"No one can suck the fun out of a room, quicker than Don Henley" - Glenn Frey

But for me, the reason I was so upset at Felder's firing, was his guitar playing. For me, he just SMOKES Joe Walsh! Joe plays licks like I play. Nothing really special, that really stands out. Don came up with some BRILLIANT solos. BRILLIANT! That's why I hated to see him go.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by HenleyFan

I have to defend Henley here a little. Yes, he can be "difficult", but having been a fan for over 20 years now I feel I can say he has definitely mellowed. We have a few contacts with people who work directly for him so we tend to get the Don side of things, but it really seems like Don bends over backwards to appease Frey on a lot of issues. Of course I'm sure if we heard from people who work for Glenn, they'd say just the opposite.

I really can't say I miss Felder all that much in the band. Yes, he's a great guitar player, but I really prefer Joe's playing. It's more organic and not as pristine sounding as Felder's playing....if that makes sense. I'm not a musician.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

I just wanted to say I've really been enjoying your contributions to this thread. It's interesting to learn the inner workings of another band which in many ways, is very equivalent to my beloved Fleetwood Mac. I love the Eagles too, so I've definitely enjoyed seeing an Eagles fan's point of view on this whole double bill tour thing.

I hope you don't find Fleetwood Mac fans have been too hostile. We're all really great folks when it comes down to it. I think we are all just greatly annoyed at the path (or lack thereof) the band has taken since '97. That frustration seems to come out in all sorts of ways. I suspect there are probably a lot of annoyed people in the Eagles world too for that matter. Truthfully, I wish both bands had been more prolific since their big '90s reunions.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by HenleyFan

I have to defend Henley here a little. Yes, he can be "difficult", but having been a fan for over 20 years now I feel I can say he has definitely mellowed. We have a few contacts with people who work directly for him so we tend to get the Don side of things, but it really seems like Don bends over backwards to appease Frey on a lot of issues. Of course I'm sure if we heard from people who work for Glenn, they'd say just the opposite.

I really can't say I miss Felder all that much in the band. Yes, he's a great guitar player, but I really prefer Joe's playing. It's more organic and not as pristine sounding as Felder's playing....if that makes sense. I'm not a musician.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Hey I have another question relating to Mr Felder. Is it true that on the One Of These Nights guitar solo that he was playing 2 guitars at the same time?

[michelej1]

Of the five band members, Stevie is the one I'd least like to meet. It's not that I like her the least. She's in my top 60% as far as my favorites go and her music is even higher than that. But I just don't see much point in meeting her. I don't think it would be that much fun.

If I was a reporter and could interview her, then I'd be more interested in doing that.

Michele

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Hey I have another question relating to Mr Felder. Is it true that on the One Of These Nights guitar solo that he was playing 2 guitars at the same time?

Unless he grew two extra arms, I doubt that's possible. I DO know, that he came up with the bass part(which is SIGNIFICANT to that song). I don't remember if Randy Meisner couldn't be there(it's in Don's book, but I'm too lazy to go find it), or what, but I know Don had to teach him the bass part.