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15 | 28.30% |
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38 | 71.70% |
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#2
10-19-2009, 03:13 PM
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Perhaps a better way of asking the question would have been: "Is SYW Stevie's best collection of original songs since TUSK?" So I'm glad you clarified things. I would really like to hash out why I feel this way. But I'm at work! But I'm enjoying reading the responses to the poll. Quote:
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10-19-2009, 05:31 PM
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I think Stevie's Say You Will work is her best set of Fleetwood Mac songs since Mirage, and as a whole, is better than Rock A Little, The Other Side Of The Mirror and Street Angel.
I think on a whole her Trouble In Shangri-La album is better than her work on Say You Will, but some of her songs on Say You Will have that... "wow" factor that's been missing from most her stuff since Mirage. Thrown Down, Running Through The Garden and Everybody Finds Out really stand out to me as amazing. However, Say You Will also has Silver Girl and they totally destroyed Smile At You...so I don't know. I think Trouble In Shangri-La is her best set of work since Mirage / Wild Heart, but I think Say You Will has the songs with the most "Wow factor" 
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#4
10-19-2009, 05:40 PM
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#5
10-19-2009, 05:52 PM
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Say You Will is a very weak album to me. It doesn't flow well, it was dated on release, the vocals are subpar, and the compositions don't seem like they go together. The opening track is laughable to say the least. I never once got that "magic" i got from Tango, Mirage, Tusk, Rumours, or FM... (I'll leave out the great pre-Buckingham/Nicks albums to compare apples to apples)
As far as Stevie's material she has some decent tunes... but the production of them are aurally in bad taste. There are times when Stevie sounds like she's holding her nose while singing and it's the production trick of running the headphones thru the main mic... God that's disturbing... Her tunes on Mirage are amazing to my ears... Straight Back, Gypsy, That's Allright... she mixes up genres with perfection... a little rock, a little pop, a little country sounds... the harmony factor alone on Mirage blows SYW away.. Yeah SYW... I bought it... but I'm just not buying it...
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#6
10-19-2009, 05:58 PM
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I don't know...I'll probably say yes only because I don't think she had anything really great going on those other albums after Tusk, aside from Gypsy and Seven Wonders, and maybe I'm the only one who thinks the latter is really "great." Anyway, her stuff on SYW is pretty strong in comparison, but it isn't all that consistent.
Now if we're referring to solo, I'll say Wild Heart (album) is superior to her stuff on SYW. I kind of think of SYW as an LB album because I prefer his songs to hers and I play them way more, so I sometimes forget about her songs on there. But Stevie has some great solo moments after Tusk. I just think they're few and far between, but they are there. 
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#7
10-19-2009, 06:02 PM
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Better than Gypsy?? That's Alright?? Seven Wonders?? Juliet?? If You Ever Did Believe?? Fireflies?? Sorcerer??? Nope!!!
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10-19-2009, 06:12 PM
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#9
10-19-2009, 06:45 PM
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Well, again, I think that Heijira(?) defined it best by establishing that SYW should be compared to collections of songs. Even then, if I listed my TEN favorite post-tusk Stevie tracks, I don't know that they would rival SYW as a whole -- though NOTHING ever in the history of man beats Gypsy and Edge of Seventeen. . .
I took the listening challenge twice today: Bella Donna vs. Say You Will. Sorry, for me, it's not even a contest. Make no mistake: Bella Donna is a beautiful thing. And while the vocal production is topnotch and the harmonies are delicate and the songwriting is lovely, the arrangements are... dull. I don't hear any adventure (EO17 excepted, of course). And the songs are a step down after FM, R, and T. (Now, for those who feel my preference is absurd, the country twang of BD might not be to everyone's taste.) I might be in the minority in that I actually prefer Stevie's contributions to the mighty SYW to Lindsey's. NOTES My playlist of her SYW tracks begins with Not Make Believe. Wow!! The tumbling drums (Mick and John are not on Bella Donna!)! The vocals and guitars!! It's sonic bliss. Then, beginning proper, Illume 9/11 really rivals the gravity of Eo17: both songs deal with death and catastrophe by charting how they change her consciousness. What other post-9/11 song has done this better? This establishes the meaning for the rest of the album (what unites her songs with Lindsey's): Thrown Down -- "Faith is a hard thing to hold onto / Something inside you says I don't have to" Say You Will -- an invitiation and a social contract Smile At You -- heartbreak; gesture (understanding) Running Through The Garden -- how we deal with pain; how we mourn Silver Girl -- a minor song that predates Mary Gaitskill's triumphant short story ("Mirror Ball"): "You cannot see her soul unless she lets you see her soul"!!! EFO -- The strings! Destiny Rules -- Tracks back to Illume to show how 9/11 has impacted her view of ... everything! ... especially Lindsey who graces the song with the loveliest guitar playing this side of Johnny Marr (i cribbed that from somewhere else... but it's so true) Goodbye Baby -- Tears. Hard-won catharsis at last. Or deep reflection. It's a full cycle. Adventurous. New insights. Art that addresses a great communal need. For the first time since Tusk, her work achieves (in conjunction with Lindsey's) and mystical imagery serves the purpose of a real social vision. BD just doesn't offer that kind of spectacle (outside of Eo17).
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10-19-2009, 10:23 PM
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I was really on the fence with this one. SYW is what got me into FM and I absolutely adore it!!! That being said, I can't say that SYW is necessarily her best work since Tusk!
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10-21-2009, 10:53 AM
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#12
10-21-2009, 11:51 AM
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^^^
 ------- Now Lindsey: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=41944 You know, for science!
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