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Old 10-13-2009, 01:13 PM
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"At the end of the tour Nicks vowed never to work with Buckingham again."

What? Oh come on. Live in Boston was on Palladia (or whatever that station is called) last night, and once again I'm not understanding how it was so bad. They look happy, and Lindsey doesn't appear any different in his stage presence than he was before or is now. Yes I can understand missing Christine, but she had her backup singers to commiserate with. How long have she and Sharon been friends? Like 30 years? I'm sure she is closer to her than she ever was to Christine. I just don't get why she makes these statements.
I don't believe for one second that the entire 18 months of the tour was miserable. Maybe 12 months were fine and 6 were horrid, perhaps . . . I know they fought during the tour, but I'm pretty sure they were getting along fine, for some of it too.

Of course, we know at the end they had a fight and you could tell she was still mad, even as she did interviews for Caesar's afterwards. But I don't think the fall out at the end was representative of the whole tour, even though she'd make it sound like it was.

They probably were pushing each other on that little elevator that lifted them up to the stage and he yelled that her "Miss Las Vegas" costumes were taking up too much space in the elevator car. And she decided, "Mr. Buckingham is being very mean to me. And has always been jealous of the attention my tamborine gets." After which, she vowed she'd never share the stage with him again.

What's funny to me is that she says it's a greatest hits tour, so there's nothing to fight about this time, which indicates that during all 18 months of the SYW tour, she and Lindsey were still fighting over the SYW album -- which is odd. But clearly, after the album was produced, they were still at odds. We could see it in their promotional comments. I guess, as Stevie has suggested, that bad feeling over the album led into the tour and kind of permeated and soured the whole memory, which is a shame. Michele
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:22 PM
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What's funny to me is that she says it's a greatest hits tour, so there's nothing to fight about this time, which indicates that during all 18 months of the SYW tour, she and Lindsey were still fighting over the SYW album -- which is odd. But clearly, after the album was produced, they were still at odds. We could see it in their promotional comments. I guess, as Stevie has suggested, that bad feeling over the album led into the tour and kind of permeated and soured the whole memory, which is a shame. Michele
My theory is that the strife has all centered around the song "Come." She doesn't sing on it in the studio and she never sang on it live. She says it's nasty publicly, but she privately resents the fact that it's not about her. So she really resented the fact that it was played every night to standing ovations. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a "Come" clause in her current tour contract- if Lindsey "Comes," Mama doesn't come.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:28 PM
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My theory is that the strife has all centered around the song "Come."
Also, the big sequencing fight. I think it colored a lot. I'd really love to know the details of what they were fighting ove exactly. Obviously, we know what the result was. Lindsey must have been like, "They're in Hawaii and I'm here. I'm the decider."

So, we get the album starting off with What's the World Coming To, Murrow and then Illume. And although this had nothing to do with the tour (except for the inclusion of WTWCT in the setlist), I do think it created a bad vibe that lingered. Michele
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:17 PM
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Also, the big sequencing fight. I think it colored a lot. I'd really love to know the details of what they were fighting ove exactly. Obviously, we know what the result was. Lindsey must have been like, "They're in Hawaii and I'm here. I'm the decider."

So, we get the album starting off with What's the World Coming To, Murrow and then Illume. And although this had nothing to do with the tour (except for the inclusion of WTWCT in the setlist), I do think it created a bad vibe that lingered. Michele

I agree. These details elude me. I have no idea of anything except for the double album became one (at Lindsey's ultimate say, as per Destiny Rules) and that they argued over the title of the album (which is seen in those unused clips from Destiny Rules).

So what, exactly, was the argument and when did it happen?

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We were in the front row of the next to last SYW tour. Lindsey was practically bawling from the emotion and she looked pretty choked up, too. It was a really lovely momen.
I've heard tale of their emotions at the end of the tour. So what IS the real story? Is it told in "Cast Away Dreams"?

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I agree. These details elude me. I have no idea of anything except for the double album became one (at Lindsey's ultimate say, as per Destiny Rules) and that they argued over the title of the album (which is seen in those unused clips from Destiny Rules).

So what, exactly, was the argument and when did it happen?
We don't know what it was, but I guess it culminated when the others went to Hawaii and Lindsey was back in California putting on the final album touches. So they argued over track sequencing. I assume they argued over the SYW tour setlist.

Stevie said they argue over pictures too, so I guess if we'd gotten a tour book or any new photography this year that would have caused more turmoil as well.

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I agree. These details elude me. I have no idea of anything except for the double album became one (at Lindsey's ultimate say, as per Destiny Rules) and that they argued over the title of the album (which is seen in those unused clips from Destiny Rules).

So what, exactly, was the argument and when did it happen?



I've heard tale of their emotions at the end of the tour. So what IS the real story? Is it told in "Cast Away Dreams"?



A-frickin'-men!

I forgot a letter in my post! MOMENT! T at the end. Bad former English major (slaps own wrist).

Well, he was introducing Say Goodbye and referencing their last concert in Atlantic City when he came out and said it was about her (I think before there had been some poetic ramblings about redemption and loss and all that jazz). And then she was goofing around a bit (I have to look up my own notes on this somewhere on my hard drive) and he shook his head and said "too many years" and someone in the audience said "or not enough" and he said it back...looking at her and getting misty. And then he linked pinkies with her and wouldn't let go for a while. (Someone here took a fabulous picture of that and I cropped out everything but their hands and keep it in my home office. Just kind of says a lot about the wacky world of Stevie and Lindsey).
Anyway, it was incredibly sweet. And I remembering being thrilled to have witnessed it (and the other 9 or so shows I went to).

So, I was kinda pissed when Stevie seemed to rewrite history/burst our happy place bubbles. Sometimes, you just want to believe the hogwash about second chances and redemption and buy the dream (hmmm...wasn't someone selling some of those at some point?)
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Sometimes, you just want to believe the hogwash about second chances and redemption and buy the dream (hmmm...wasn't someone selling some of those at some point?)
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