Mackenzie Phillips: I had sex with musician dad John Phillips

[camchristo]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Michelle Phillips says she thinks Mackenzie is lying:

“John was a bad parent, and a drug addict. But [expletive deleted] his daughter? If she thinks it’s true, why isn’t she with a good psychiatrist on a couch? I think it’s unconscionable that Oprah would let her do her show. I have every reason to believe it’s untrue. Oprah should be more judicious about who she has on her show.”

Michelle added: “Mackenzie has a lot of mental illness. She’s had a needle stuck up her arm for 35 years. She was arrested for heroin and coke just recently. She did ‘Celebrity Rehab’ and now she writes a book. The whole thing is timed.”

http://showbiz411.blogs.thr.com/mich...-lying-incest/

And his third wife Genevieve Waïte, who he was married to at the time of the alleged affair, also says she believes it isn't true:

"John was a good man who had the disease of alcoholism and drug addiction," Waite said in the statement. "He was incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, of having such a relationship with his own child."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090923...s-90f61ed.html

But his daughter Chynna believes Mackenzie:

"Somebody could have dropped a piano on my head and I probably wouldn't have felt it," the singer tells Us Weekly. "But I knew it was true. I mean, who in their right mind would make such a claim if it wasn't true?"

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrityn...illips-2009239

So I don't know. I don't think it's as cut and dry as all that. I find it weird to reveal something so awful on a TV talk show I must admit.

I was wondering what kind of backlash there would be. I'm not surprised that 2 of the stepmothers think she is lying. Who would want to admit that they married that kind of a man?

Although I do think it is weird that she revealed this on Oprah, and it was awkward to watch, I do tend to believe her. Why would someone make that up? The photos they showed of her and John during the timeframe this was going on were kind of creepy. Like boyfriend-girlfriend photos, not father-daughter.

The only reason I can figure for her revealing the secret on Oprah (aside from promoting the book) was to bring awareness to these types of situations and maybe encourage people in those situations to speak out or get help. Also, she may have wanted people to see and hear her talk about it to gauge her credibility. It's easier to gauge when you're watching her rather that only reading her words. She seemed credible to me.

Oh, and how does Michelle Phillips know that Mackenzie is NOT receiving psychatric treatment?

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by camchristo

I was wondering what kind of backlash there would be. I'm not surprised that 2 of the stepmothers think she is lying. Who would want to admit that they married that kind of a man?

I do agree with you but I have to admit I'm still on the fence about it all. She was out of her mind on drugs for a long time and she's most probably broke and has a book to sell, but at the same time it's such an awful thing to say you'd have to be ill or twisted to make that kind of accusation without it being true. As I don't know Mackenzie as a person I can't say either way. I do know someone, who was ill, who made such a claim once and later said it wasn't true after he died. I'd be interested to hear what his other children think. If they don't say anything, I'd tend to think they believe her and there must be something to it. So we'll see I guess!

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I do agree with you but I have to admit I'm still on the fence about it all. She was out of her mind on drugs for a long time and she's most probably broke and has a book to sell, but at the same time it's such an awful thing to say you'd have to be ill or twisted to make that kind of accusation without it being true. As I don't know Mackenzie as a person I can't say either way. I do know someone, who was ill, who made such a claim once and later said it wasn't true after he died. I'd be interested to hear what his other children think. If they don't say anything, I'd tend to think they believe her and there must be something to it. So we'll see I guess!

I'm on the fence also. Unfortunately her credibility is a big issue. If she had just released a book that detailed her well publicized drug addiction, it might sell alright, but disclosing details of incest gets you on Oprah and sells tons of books.
I don't necessarily think she would be ill or twisted to make it up. At this stage in her life, being addicted to drugs for decades, having success and set backs, what else does she have to lose? In addition to the publicity, and money it will generate she is also gaining tons of public sympathy. Again, I'm not saying it's not true, but just pointing out some reasons why I would have doubts.

[camchristo]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I do agree with you but I have to admit I'm still on the fence about it all. She was out of her mind on drugs for a long time and she's most probably broke and has a book to sell, but at the same time it's such an awful thing to say you'd have to be ill or twisted to make that kind of accusation without it being true. As I don't know Mackenzie as a person I can't say either way. I do know someone, who was ill, who made such a claim once and later said it wasn't true after he died. I'd be interested to hear what his other children think. If they don't say anything, I'd tend to think they believe her and there must be something to it. So we'll see I guess!

You have a good point. I guess I just project my morals into the situation, i.e. I would NEVER make accusations like that if they weren't true. Doesn't mean other people wouldn't.

I am curious about what her siblings have to say. From your earlier posted quotes, it looks like Chynna believes it. I think she's going to be on Oprah Friday to comment.