Mackenzie Phillips: I had sex with musician dad John Phillips

[GODDESS6]

i saw a brief clip of an interview w/ makenzie yesterday & like luke said, it is sad, but it doesn't surprise me one bit~ i always felt bad for mackenzie that she was introduced & encouraged to do drugs at such a young age~ she has led quite a sad, yet somewhat interesting life & i will be buying the book~

she also said when she was 18 yrs old mick jagger came into her room to seduce her & mick comes in, locks the door & tells mackenzie he has been waiting for this moment since she was 10 years old~ i say ewwwwww~

[markolas]

Ewwww. I cannot imagine putting this in a book. It's one thing to say that you were molested, but to admit that it was consensual? Ewww.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by markolas

Ewwww. I cannot imagine putting this in a book. It's one thing to say that you were molested, but to admit that it was consensual? Ewww.

it clearly shows how messed up she was~

there was a good review about the book on amazon~ i'll have to record her on oprah~ it's surely a show i don't want shown in front of my son or daycare kids~ but seeing as i grew up w/ mackenzie on tv & knew she had demons, i do want to give the book a read~

[brysondt]

Oh wow guys...I just googled Makenzie cus I wasn't sure what she looked like and I was shocked that SHE is John Phillips daughter. Gosh, I have been under a rock. Totally have seen her everywhere and had no idea. Not to mention....this is horrific. Poor girl. Poor everyone. It's crazy what drugs can do to people.

So, Chyna is her sister, right? Michelle is her mom too? This is terrible. NOT what I wanted to read at the crack of dawn, haha. But thanks for posting.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by brysondt

Oh wow guys...I just googled Makenzie cus I wasn't sure what she looked like and I was shocked that SHE is John Phillips daughter. Gosh, I have been under a rock. Totally have seen her everywhere and had no idea. Not to mention....this is horrific. Poor girl. Poor everyone. It's crazy what drugs can do to people.

So, Chyna is her sister, right? Michelle is her mom too? This is terrible. NOT what I wanted to read at the crack of dawn, haha. But thanks for posting.

chynna & bijou are her sisters, but michelle isn't her mother, her mother is susan adams, john's 1st wife~

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by GODDESS6

it clearly shows how messed up she was~

there was a good review about the book on amazon~ i'll have to record her on oprah~ it's surely a show i don't want shown in front of my son or daycare kids~ but seeing as i grew up w/ mackenzie on tv & knew she had demons, i do want to give the book a read~

I'll be picking up her book and I'm recording Oprah to watch when I get home from work tonight. I was wonderfully supportive of Valerie Bertinelli to appear on the show with her.

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by markolas

Ewwww. I cannot imagine putting this in a book. It's one thing to say that you were molested, but to admit that it was consensual? Ewww.

Pretty brave to admit publicly something that is actually somewhat common in an incestuous (EDIT: there is no such word as "incestual", I don't think...lol) situation.

However it needs to get out and talked about is fine with me. My agency has an entire division devoted to Child Advocacy (children who are victim's of sexual and physical assault) and we just lost a huge chunk of funding. People need to open their eyes and realize what is happening. It IS happening,. I am one of only three therapists in my agency who has been trained to do Trauma Focused CBT therapy, so I see this first hand. I hope that Mackenzie is listened to and recognized as a victim and that this book opens eyes and hearts.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by jannieC

Pretty brave to admit publicly something that is actually somewhat common in an incestuous (EDIT: there is no such word as "incestual", I don't think...lol) situation.

However it needs to get out and talked about is fine with me. My agency has an entire division devoted to Child Advocacy (children who are victim's of sexual and physical assault) and we just lost a huge chunk of funding. People need to open their eyes and realize what is happening. It IS happening,. I am one of only three therapists in my agency who has been trained to do Trauma Focused CBT therapy, so I see this first hand. I hope that Mackenzie is listened to and recognized as a victim and that this book opens eyes and hearts.

Amen. This is a subject that gets swept under the carpet way too often. I definitely think her story will benefit others. It helps them to know that they are not alone.

[Musicman408]

Very very isturbing. I always remember her as the "mom" from the Disney Channel, so growing up, I didn't know she had so many issues.

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Amen. This is a subject that gets swept under the carpet way too often. I definitely think her story will benefit others. It helps them to know that they are not alone.

Thanks for the "Amen" in spite of the many typos and grammatical errors. I was at work and typing very fast- !

I wanted to add that while her story isn't "new", it is offering another perspective. She wasn't really "consensual" in the way we define it. I didn't get to see Oprah, but I hope this was handled well.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by jannieC

Thanks for the "Amen" in spite of the many typos and grammatical errors. I was at work and typing very fast- !

I wanted to add that while her story isn't "new", it is offering another perspective. She wasn't really "consensual" in the way we define it. I didn't get to see Oprah, but I hope this was handled well.

It was. Oprah let her tell her story uninterrupted and didn't dig for salacious details. Michelle has come out today and said she is mentally ill. I think it is sad for Michelle just to reject the story out of hand that way. But then again, I don't know what is in the bo0k ( which I will be purchasing in a few hours) about Michelle or what her and Mackenzie's relationship is like.

[LukeA]

Michelle is the only surviving Mama/Papa, so I'm sure she feels some need to defend the group's legacy- even if it means she has to defend John. I don't mean to be cynical, but she WAS the co-author of California Dreamin' and Creeque Alley- she may very well be envisioning royalties and potential song licensing deals flying out the window, now that a whole new generation mostly associates the band (because of the alleged actions of its primary creative force) with incest.

By the way, has Spanky McFarlane weighed in on this yet? Seems to me she might have a unique perspective on this.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by markolas

Ewwww. I cannot imagine putting this in a book. It's one thing to say that you were molested, but to admit that it was consensual? Ewww.

Statuatory rape, especially involving incest, is never consensual. For example there's automatically "power issues" involved - the father is a trusted "authority figure," etc.

Anyway i.m.o. it's six of one, half-dozen of the other - I'm totally neutral about whether the temperature of his room in hell will be one million degrees, or ten million........

[golddustdrummer]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Statuatory rape, especially involving incest, is never consensual. For example there's automatically "power issues" involved - the father is a trusted "authority figure," etc.

I don't think it could be seen as statutory rape.
she was what? 18 or 19?
the age of consent in California is 18.
she was "legally" an adult.
but consensual or not...it is all kinds of nasty.

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Anyway i.m.o. it's six of one, half-dozen of the other - I'm totally neutral about whether the temperature of his room in hell will be one million degrees, or ten million........

lol couldn't agree more