New Zealand Herald, LB Interview

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

Stevie obviously wanted him to have some sort of reaction that still showed his love for her. I think she loves the idea that his love for her will eat away at him - 'I'll follow you down 'till the sound of my voice will haunt you...', 'like a heartbeat drives you mad, and the stillness of a memory is what you had...' etc. If he shows no feelings towards her and Mick getting together, then I think it would hurt her too, absolutely.

Ha ha this cracked me up! While I agree with what you say I had to laugh at the lyrics you wrote.
The correct words are: in the stillness of remembering what you had, and what you lost.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by vivfox

According to Stevie she and Mick had to break up because they knew being together would be the final straw to break up the band, that Lindsey wouldn't be able to handle it and would probably quit.

Well, isn't it well established now that Mick and Stevie broke up because he started having an affair with her friend Sara, who later became his wife? Danny Goldberg certainly writes it that way, as did Carol Ann Harris and I'm sure Stevie said something to this effect recently too. Stevie definitely likes to paint herself as this self-sacrificing martyr but it seems more likely to me they split because of Mick's infidelity rather than any loyalty to the Mac or Lindsey.

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Well Lindsey did say during the Dance era in an interview on camera (I think it was Fleetwood Mac Behind the Music?) that he more or less "wasn't surprised" when Mick told him what was going on between he & Stevie.

You're right he did say that, I imagine all the band knew what was going on, the visit from Mick (and maybe Stevie too) probably just confirmed suspicions so I believe him when he says he shrugged his shoulders at Mick's revelation. I'm not saying he wasn't hurt by it but he probably had time to come to terms with it and shrug it off.

Originally Posted by vivfox

Ha ha this cracked me up! While I agree with what you say I had to laugh at the lyrics you wrote.
The correct words are: in the stillness of remembering what you had, and what you lost.

To be fair to Black Moon in the history of misheard lyrics that is pretty mild, and it still has the same meaning.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Ha ha this cracked me up! While I agree with what you say I had to laugh at the lyrics you wrote.
The correct words are: in the stillness of remembering what you had, and what you lost.

It was early, okay!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

It was early, okay!

Ofcourse it's ok! You'd be suprised at some of the weird lyrics I came up with before I got the words. For example in the song Fireflies when she sings, "long distance winners, where we survived the flight..."
I was hearing, "come Mr. Squinered, where we survived the flight..."

To me your blunder was more funnier because I thought everyone knew all the real words to Dreams. It's one of those songs that has been around forever, played on the radio forever, and performed to death, to the point that while she's singing it most of us are tuning her out.
Also the font used in the Rumours album lyric sheet was so cool to look at, I figured you and everyone else would have memorized all the words in it.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Ofcourse it's ok! You'd be suprised at some of the weird lyrics I came up with before I got the words. For example in the song Fireflies when she sings, "long distance winners, where we survived the flight..."
I was hearing, "come Mr. Squinered, where we survived the flight..."

To me your blunder was more funnier because I thought everyone knew all the real words to Dreams. It's one of those songs that has been around forever, played on the radio forever, and performed to death, to the point that while she's singing it most of us are tuning her out.
Also the font used in the Rumours album lyric sheet was so cool to look at, I figured you and everyone else would have memorized all the words in it.

I DO know all the words to it, that's the thing. So, I have no idea why I messed it up. I've probably known all of the words since I was conceived, because like you said it's been done to death.

I can only be perfect 99.9% of the time.

[coopcoop]

You have to believe lindsey over stevie in anything involving their relationship. she romanticizes everything for her art and songwriting.

I have read 25 years of interviews,read books on the mac and I really have come to the conclusion that I just dont think Lindsey was ever really that deeply in love with stevie. maybe in the very beginning in LA but even that sounds troubled I know alot of people dont want to belive it but maybe carol ann harris's book was right and the break up wasnt this major sadness or even all that troubling to him. Has he ever really written a love song for stevie?

he certainly seems to be the happiest now he has ever been judging from interviews and articles you read. he seems to be deeply in love with his wife and loves his new life as a father and his home and his work.seems like a very happy guy, I just doubt very much he really cares about all this tired old mac relationship drama except when it inevitably comes up in interviews.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by coopcoop

You have to believe lindsey over stevie in anything involving their relationship. she romanticizes everything for her art and songwriting.

I have read 25 years of interviews,read books on the mac and I really have come to the conclusion that I just dont think Lindsey was ever really that deeply in love with stevie.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by coopcoop

You have to believe lindsey over stevie in anything involving their relationship. she romanticizes everything for her art and songwriting.

I have read 25 years of interviews,read books on the mac and I really have come to the conclusion that I just dont think Lindsey was ever really that deeply in love with stevie.

I sort of agree with your top statement. Stevie does tend to over-exaggerate and anything dramatic makes her feed off it like a leech.

However - you seriously don't think Lindsey was ever deeply in love with Stevie? I've got to completely disagree. They were together from being so young for five/six/seven years depending on which account you read it from. That's a long relationship. Some marriages don't last that long. They moved away from their families, without their support (well, I don't believe they were ever as destitute as Stevie would like to think, but I don't think they were fully supported) and obviously spent a lot of time together.

I think the cocaine stopped them - aswell as having to be in a band with each other post-breakup - from expressing natural emotions when a relationship ends. Stevie said cocaine took away sensitivity, and I believe that. Judging from how possessive Lindsey is said to have been over Stevie, I don't think he could have done that if he felt disdain for her or wasn't all that in love with her.

[Nikolaj]

Good God, play friggin' New Zealand, already! There's either 3 or 4 NZ threads already on The Ledge- I'm happy for any Ledgies that live in New Zealand, but dang, I think I'll remember 2009 as the year Fleetwood Mac did their 45 US dates, took 3 months off and all I heard about was New Zealand!
(though we did get Stevie's lovely 'Soundstage' dvd release and promotion during a short 'Unleashed' break. Wonder if she'll get a Grammy nomination, I think I read ballots get sent out in October).
New Zealand, New Zealand, New Zealand- oy

[belladonnadream]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

I sort of agree with your top statement. Stevie does tend to over-exaggerate and anything dramatic makes her feed off it like a leech.

However - you seriously don't think Lindsey was ever deeply in love with Stevie? I've got to completely disagree. They were together from being so young for five/six/seven years depending on which account you read it from. That's a long relationship. Some marriages don't last that long. They moved away from their families, without their support (well, I don't believe they were ever as destitute as Stevie would like to think, but I don't think they were fully supported) and obviously spent a lot of time together.

I think the cocaine stopped them - aswell as having to be in a band with each other post-breakup - from expressing natural emotions when a relationship ends. Stevie said cocaine took away sensitivity, and I believe that. Judging from how possessive Lindsey is said to have been over Stevie, I don't think he could have done that if he felt disdain for her or wasn't all that in love with her.

oh I agree...they were both deeply in love with eachother and also hurt by eachother very much to the point they weren't speaking which was breaking them up.
The two of them were just playing the part...when you're both hurt and not speaking you have to play that you're not the one that got hurt...its a pride issue with men..so of course he's gonna say..."so" and pretend he doesn't care when really,..yeah...he was dying but not gonna let it kill him. Of course he did care...and Stevie was trying to get his attention...without speaking...obviously if she was showing up with Mick and rubbing it in his face.

[belladonnadream]

Originally Posted by coopcoop

You have to believe lindsey over stevie in anything involving their relationship. she romanticizes everything for her art and songwriting.

I have read 25 years of interviews,read books on the mac and I really have come to the conclusion that I just dont think Lindsey was ever really that deeply in love with stevie. maybe in the very beginning in LA but even that sounds troubled I know alot of people dont want to belive it but maybe carol ann harris's book was right and the break up wasnt this major sadness or even all that troubling to him. Has he ever really written a love song for stevie?

he certainly seems to be the happiest now he has ever been judging from interviews and articles you read. he seems to be deeply in love with his wife and loves his new life as a father and his home and his work.seems like a very happy guy, I just doubt very much he really cares about all this tired old mac relationship drama except when it inevitably comes up in interviews.

You're wrong......here's why... 6:28 on my video from Rochester NY 3-16-09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0AWbllbOc
Elements of that love remain...even if he is happy and in love with his new wife.