New Zealand Herald, LB Interview

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

He's posessive as hell.

Isn't everyone? Kind of a weird thing to say about someone you don't know.

Originally Posted by vivfox

So now I ask you Ledgies, who is telling the truth and who is the liar?

Well Lindsey did say during the Dance era in an interview on camera (I think it was Fleetwood Mac Behind the Music?) that he more or less "wasn't surprised" when Mick told him what was going on between he & Stevie. Generally in these types of situations, one can make up stories (or alter what really happened) so as not to feel the villain. I'm guessing Stevie's version isn't quite as close to what really occured. I have mild doubts that she would be so terribly concerned about how Lindsey would feel. If anything, she may have suggested to Mick that they should "come clean" to Lindsey about it because of her devotion to the band itself... not Lindsey. They had, after all, broken up.

Just my theory. I could be way off. Probably am. Maybe one day we'll get it in a tell all book. And as Stevie has said before, by then, it won't matter.

[Dodfather]

Lol...I'm agreeing with demon again here...

They had broken up and perhaps Stevie felt worse about embarking on yet another interband relationship (what a polite way to describe what was going on, haha) rather than specifically how it would effect Lindsey? Of course we';re only guessing but they hadbroken up and there had to be an element of "I don't care" from both sides about the other. There always is after a break-up, even if it's not true and you're in kind od denial.

Also, as much as I have respect for Mick for sitting Lindsey down and telling him what was going on (how do you tell a mate you're sleeping with his ex?! Jesus...) I'm not surprised that Lindsey was, well, not surprised! He'll have known just how Stevie behaved when she's romantically around someone and he'll probably have spotted it before anyone else...

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Isn't everyone? Kind of a weird thing to say about someone you don't know.



Well Lindsey did say during the Dance era in an interview on camera (I think it was Fleetwood Mac Behind the Music?) that he more or less "wasn't surprised" when Mick told him what was going on between he & Stevie. Generally in these types of situations, one can make up stories (or alter what really happened) so as not to feel the villain. I'm guessing Stevie's version isn't quite as close to what really occured. I have mild doubts that she would be so terribly concerned about how Lindsey would feel. If anything, she may have suggested to Mick that they should "come clean" to Lindsey about it because of her devotion to the band itself... not Lindsey. They had, after all, broken up.

Just my theory. I could be way off. Probably am. Maybe one day we'll get it in a tell all book. And as Stevie has said before, by then, it won't matter.

[mylittledemon]

Yeah I'm not saying Stevie didn't still have love for him... I just don't see her being enraptured with Lindsey's feelings is all. And vice versa. Lindsey's reaction seems proof of that.

[Black_Moon]

I think by this point it'll just have been about scoring points off each other. Lindsey's obviously not going to want to look like he's completely devastated about what was going on between Stevie and Mick, because by this point he's going out with Carol-Ann Harris and really, who wants to look gutted that their ex has got someone else?

Stevie obviously wanted him to have some sort of reaction that still showed his love for her. I think she loves the idea that his love for her will eat away at him - 'I'll follow you down 'till the sound of my voice will haunt you...', 'like a heartbeat drives you mad, and the stillness of a memory is what you had...' etc. If he shows no feelings towards her and Mick getting together, then I think it would hurt her too, absolutely.

So, I think mylittledemon is right. Stevie didn't have too much concern with Lindsey's feelings about the situation. She cared more about Lindsey's concern with her.

I mean, this is all guesswork of course. Just my sentiments on the thing.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

Stevie obviously wanted him to have some sort of reaction that still showed his love for her. I think she loves the idea that his love for her will eat away at him - 'I'll follow you down 'till the sound of my voice will haunt you...', 'like a heartbeat drives you mad, and the stillness of a memory is what you had...' etc. If he shows no feelings towards her and Mick getting together, then I think it would hurt her too, absolutely.

Ha ha this cracked me up! While I agree with what you say I had to laugh at the lyrics you wrote.
The correct words are: in the stillness of remembering what you had, and what you lost.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by vivfox

According to Stevie she and Mick had to break up because they knew being together would be the final straw to break up the band, that Lindsey wouldn't be able to handle it and would probably quit.

Well, isn't it well established now that Mick and Stevie broke up because he started having an affair with her friend Sara, who later became his wife? Danny Goldberg certainly writes it that way, as did Carol Ann Harris and I'm sure Stevie said something to this effect recently too. Stevie definitely likes to paint herself as this self-sacrificing martyr but it seems more likely to me they split because of Mick's infidelity rather than any loyalty to the Mac or Lindsey.

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Well Lindsey did say during the Dance era in an interview on camera (I think it was Fleetwood Mac Behind the Music?) that he more or less "wasn't surprised" when Mick told him what was going on between he & Stevie.

You're right he did say that, I imagine all the band knew what was going on, the visit from Mick (and maybe Stevie too) probably just confirmed suspicions so I believe him when he says he shrugged his shoulders at Mick's revelation. I'm not saying he wasn't hurt by it but he probably had time to come to terms with it and shrug it off.

Originally Posted by vivfox

Ha ha this cracked me up! While I agree with what you say I had to laugh at the lyrics you wrote.
The correct words are: in the stillness of remembering what you had, and what you lost.

To be fair to Black Moon in the history of misheard lyrics that is pretty mild, and it still has the same meaning.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Ha ha this cracked me up! While I agree with what you say I had to laugh at the lyrics you wrote.
The correct words are: in the stillness of remembering what you had, and what you lost.

It was early, okay!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

It was early, okay!

Ofcourse it's ok! You'd be suprised at some of the weird lyrics I came up with before I got the words. For example in the song Fireflies when she sings, "long distance winners, where we survived the flight..."
I was hearing, "come Mr. Squinered, where we survived the flight..."

To me your blunder was more funnier because I thought everyone knew all the real words to Dreams. It's one of those songs that has been around forever, played on the radio forever, and performed to death, to the point that while she's singing it most of us are tuning her out.
Also the font used in the Rumours album lyric sheet was so cool to look at, I figured you and everyone else would have memorized all the words in it.

[belladonnadream]

Originally Posted by Black_Moon

I think by this point it'll just have been about scoring points off each other. Lindsey's obviously not going to want to look like he's completely devastated about what was going on between Stevie and Mick, because by this point he's going out with Carol-Ann Harris and really, who wants to look gutted that their ex has got someone else?

Stevie obviously wanted him to have some sort of reaction that still showed his love for her. I think she loves the idea that his love for her will eat away at him - 'I'll follow you down 'till the sound of my voice will haunt you...', 'like a heartbeat drives you mad, and the stillness of a memory is what you had...' etc. If he shows no feelings towards her and Mick getting together, then I think it would hurt her too, absolutely.

So, I think mylittledemon is right. Stevie didn't have too much concern with Lindsey's feelings about the situation. She cared more about Lindsey's concern with her.

I mean, this is all guesswork of course. Just my sentiments on the thing.

Well said.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

We all know that Stevie romanticizes everything...its what she does...its how she is able to write her music. I don't necessarily believe that makes what she says wrong though. I just think that for as much as she romanticizes their relationship, Lindsey probably has to downplay it...after all, he is married with a family and I'm sure it doesn't thrill his wife to have to hear about/read about the saga of Stevie and Lindsey all the time. That's what everyone wants to know about and its what they are always asked about so I'm sure it would be a bit uncomfortable for him to go into any kind of detail about it and then go home to face Kristen. Seriously though, after all these years he still thinks that he and Stevie need to work on their relationship...I think that says a lot.

[David]

Originally Posted by GypsyBlueEyes

Seriously though, after all these years he still thinks that he and Stevie need to work on their relationship...I think that says a lot.

In the early '90s, Stevie spoke often of wanting to patch up their friendship (or create a friendship to begin with) before she died, but not feeling as if it were ever going to happen.

Now in recent years, it's Lindsey who speaks of wanting to patch up their friendship, & she seems to be the one now who makes him doubt his ability to do so.

They've always been at cross purposes.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Well Lindsey did say during the Dance era in an interview on camera (I think it was Fleetwood Mac Behind the Music?) that he more or less "wasn't surprised" when Mick told him what was going on between he & Stevie.

Yes, I think Lindsey probably heard rumors from the road crew soon after the affair happened, I doubt it came as a surprise. Carol Ann said he knew all along, because it was very obvious but then again she might have gone out of her way to make sure he knew, because I got an instigator vibe from her where the Jenny vs. Stevie altercation is concerned. Carol probably made sure everyone knew about Mick and Stevie.

Lindsey said he had other issues with Stevie aside from her sleeping with Mick. Which doesn't mean he didn't still feel emotionally connected to her. I think he did. But by the time Mick confronted him, the news was probably quite anticlimatic. Plus, Mick said that when he was high Lindsey confessed that he thought there was something between Stevie and Mick since they joined the band in 1975. He apparently suspected they had already been together.

So, when they actually said they had been, Stevie and Lindsey had both been with other people. He'd probably heard about the affair at least a year earlier and gotten through it. I don't think there was immense shock and hurt left, when the boom officially fell.

And I doubt they broke up because of Lindsey. It probably had more to do with Mick's feelings for Sara.

Michele

[Regina]

In that Behind the Music thing, Dance-era, didn't Lindsey say he wasn't surprised but it was kind of like one more thing to add to their problems.

I buy the Dance-version more than I buy this new rehashed "we told him together" deal. But, who knows with these people. They all lie like rugs.

But, since I'm not overly fond of Mick, I think he did it to rub Lindsey's nose in it more than a big old "Lindsey must know! It's the gentlemanly thing to do after schtumping someone's ex-mate."

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Regina

But, since I'm not overly fond of Mick, I think he did it to rub Lindsey's nose in it more than a big old "Lindsey must know! It's the gentlemanly thing to do after schtumping someone's ex-mate."

The rationale doesn't seem legit does it? Since Lindsey had to know as a matter of Mick's good conscience, why did he only have to know after the affair had been going on for months and was finally over?

I've heard people say that you never tell the other person about infidelity for their sake. You always do it for your own.

As for Mick's true motivations, I'm not sure. I think he wanted to keep FM together more than he would ever want to needle Lindsey. And I like to think that he loves Lindsey and wouldn't really want to hurt him, like a disinterested rival (or Stevie) might want to do. So, I don't know what I think his reason was. I think he thought maybe Lindsey already knew and didn't want the lie to fester between them. If he was 100% sure Lindsey would never find out, he probably would have kept mum.

Isn't it funny how, while people have wondered about Chris and Lindsey, no one really ever speculates about Mick and Christine? I guess they just don't seem like each other's types. Plus, it would be awful if Mick did that to John.

Michele

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Isn't everyone? Kind of a weird thing to say about someone you don't know.

Where there's smoke there's fire.
Where there's a 100-foot-deep
impact crater and a huge conflagration
and pile of rubble there's PROBABLY
a 2,000-pound bomb that went
off someplace.