Time Life RRHOF Inductions DVD

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

Honestly, I thought they picked the worst three songs to perform. How kickass would Eyes of the World, Gypsy, and You Make Loving Fun. Just three fun, up beat, happy rockin songs.

I thought SYLM represented everything amazing about the band. It was good through the tour, but I'd never seen it better than it was there. If it was to be the last time for those 5, I couldn't want anything more -- except that it not be the last time.

As for what other 2 songs they should have done . . . hard for me to say.


Michele

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I thought SYLM represented everything amazing about the band. It was good through the tour, but I'd never seen it better than it was there. If it was to be the last time for those 5, I couldn't want anything more -- except that it not be the last time.

As for what other 2 songs they should have done . . . hard for me to say.


Michele

You thought Lindsey playing a banjo and Christine playing a tambourine represented the band being inducted into the hall of fame? My god, they should have brought the f**king house done. Even the grammy performance was better than that and it was chopped to bits. I hated every performance they did the induction night.

[michelej1]

^ If Lindsey is ever inducted, I hope he performs Show You How. That'll teach ya!

Originally Posted by AliceLover

You thought Lindsey playing a banjo and Christine playing a tambourine represented the band being inducted into the hall of fame?

Yes, I did. That and their lovely harmonizing, on which their fame was mounted. I also like that that song came from The White Album and not the whatchamacallit.

Now, as for what other 2 songs they could've done, I can't say what would have been the best choices. But Big Love and Landslide duets were not proper.

Michele

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by michelej1

^ If Lindsey is ever inducted, I hope he performs Show You How. That'll teach ya!



Yes, I did. That and their lovely harmonizing, on which their fame was mounted. I also like that that song came from The White Album and not the whatchamacallit.

Now, as for what other 2 songs they could've done, I can't say what would have been the best choices. But Big Love and Landslide duets were not proper.

Michele

Well, if were going to talk about harmonizing, how about The Chain? That song is more than a song, its a religion. That song is a rock and roll classic. That would have been incredible, especially if they did the extended rock version from the early days.

If Lindsey ever gets inducted I think he should do Twist of Fate, Try for the Sun, and Go Insane. (With Shut us Down as a close runner up)

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

Well, if were going to talk about harmonizing, how about The Chain? That song is more than a song, its a religion. That song is a rock and roll classic. That would have been incredible, especially if they did the extended rock version from the early days.

Duh. You are right. The Chain is an obvious choice. I can't believe I was going around saying I couldn't think of anything else/

Now, we need a third one. But they have limited space to maneuver in. It's not like they can get their whole band up there (or is it). So, we have to do songs that can be performed in shoestring fashion. So, that's why I'm not considering GYOW.

I'm not suggesting Rhiannon or Dreams either and I am proud of them for not doing those songs. Actually, if they'd done a band version of Landslide somehow (not just Chris which we've had before, but get Mick and John in there too), I'd have been ok with it.

Michele

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Duh. You are right. The Chain is an obvious choice. I can't believe I was going around saying I couldn't think of anything else/

Now, we need a third one. But they have limited space to maneuver in. It's not like they can get their whole band up there (or is it). So, we have to do songs that can be performed in shoestring fashion. So, that's why I'm not considering GYOW.

I'm not suggesting Rhiannon or Dreams either and I am proud of them for not doing those songs. Actually, if they'd done a band version of Landslide somehow (not just Chris which we've had before, but get Mick and John in there too), I'd have been ok with it.

Michele

Lindsey - Second Hand News, Eyes of the World, Tusk, or Monday Morning
Stevie - Gypsy, Seven Wonders, Running Through the Garden, or Gold Dust
Christine - You Make Loving Fun, Isn't it Midnight, Everywhere, or Little Lies

These are at least the songs that I think best represent the band that aren't really the obvious choices, but would make great live versions.

[AliceLover]

Oh ****, how'd I forget Blue Letter?!?!?!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

Lindsey - Second Hand News, Eyes of the World, Tusk, or Monday Morning
Stevie - Gypsy, Seven Wonders, Running Through the Garden, or Gold Dust
Christine - You Make Loving Fun, Isn't it Midnight, Everywhere, or Little Lies

These are at least the songs that I think best represent the band that aren't really the obvious choices, but would make great live versions.

Gypsy would work. As with Landslide, not just singer and guitar, not the acoustic they did in AHI (lovely though it was), but something that would include everyone. Very spare with just the 5 of them, no other players. And, heck, play the video in the background the way they are doing on the Unleashed tour. That would be great.

Assuming there was no room for a big drum kit, Storms with the cocktail set they're using now would also work. Lindsey and Christine on the chorus. Goose bumps.

Michele

[snoot]

Latter day aficionados ought to get their heads out of the baby boomer Rumours area and pick up on the real history of the Mac. It didn't begin in 1975 or 1977 for that matter, and Lindsey & Stevie would most likely never have progressed past little known folk pop ditties in west coast lounges if it hadn't been for three key players: Peter Green, Bob Welch and Mick Fleetwood. All this hullabaloo about the 3rd wave of FM is sadly overblown. The group had higher charting hits in the UK in their brief but glorious blues rock years (all of three) than they had stateside or elsewhere in over 30.

If the HOF really wanted to do justice towards finding and enshrining Fleetwood Mac's place in the sun, at a minimum they should have made it a point to cover the span of the band's amazing history, their truest hallmark of all, in the song representation. As it was, the proceeding was largely framed in the all too myopic view of the BN years, yet they were inducting a musical entity that owed its very existence to Bluesbreakers' alumni. For anyone who has followed the band from its seminal years, that whole presentation came off more spurious than a two cent penny. [Fitting in many ways for HOF let me add]

As proffered, if the hotshots involved had bothered to put but a modicum of thought into the proceedings, they could and should have chosen representative tracks to honor the band's entire body of work. I can think of no better than Black Magic Woman (Green) or Oh Well (Green) from the 1st wave, Hypnotized (Welch) from the 2nd, and - perhaps fittingly - The Chain from the 3rd (as already suggested). If anyone of the Rhiannon obsessed honestly haven't heard of these, go look them up. You're in for a treat.

Oh but wait, they thumbed Bob Welch right and fine prior to the grand anointing, the very guy that led the Mac to California to begin with, kept the band going when the others wanted to pack it in, and paved the way for all that followed. Hypnotized? Ah silly me, what WAS I thinking?

Uh ... carry on with all the myopic hair-splitting gang, please.

Originally Posted by AliceLover

You thought Lindsey playing a banjo and Christine playing a tambourine represented the band being inducted into the hall of fame?

As only the Hall could see fit!

[michelej1]

What I really loved about SYLM is how it took away all the criticism we've leveled at the band for having the extra musicians and back up singers. They all fell away and we were just left with the 5 of them up there together. The vaunted chemistry on display. No better way to go out, imho.

And yeah, banjo and tamborine spoke to me in a bare bones, improvisational way. Studio wizardry begone. It's a faux notion, I'm sure (weren't Brett and the guys there, after all).

Still, it put intimate images of them rehearsing, heads together, in my head.

Brought me from 1975 to 1998 in one . . . should I say fell swoop or should I just say falling, falling, falling?

Michele

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by michelej1

What I really loved about SYLM is how it took away all the criticism we've leveled at the band for having the extra musicians and back up singers. They all fell away and we were just left with the 5 of them up there together. The vaunted chemistry on display. No better way to go out, imho.

And yeah, banjo and tamborine spoke to me in a bare bones, improvisational way. Studio wizardry begone. It's a faux notion, I'm sure (weren't Brett and the guys there, after all).

Still, it put intimate images of them rehearsing, heads together, in my head.

Brought me from 1975 to 1998 in one . . . should I say fell swoop or should I just say falling, falling, falling?

Michele

Brett, Neale, and the backup singers sang on that performance.

[snoot]

Originally Posted by michelej1

And yeah, banjo and tamborine spoke to me in a bare bones, improvisational way. Studio wizardry begone. It's a faux notion, I'm sure (weren't Brett and the guys there, after all).

Michele you know I think you're a doll as you've always been one of the most productive members on the board in damn near every area, but pleeeease. A banjo and a tambourine on the night of enshrinement? That ceremony was sad -- fittingly sad in fact, considering the bad omen they cast by denigrating Welch to a nobody and has-been. That stuck with me more than anything else from the event's proceedings.

Beyond that, and as AliceLover called it, they should have used that unique opportunity to bring down the house. Amen.

Now try this out for size. I could easily envisage Lindsey and Jeremy accompanying Peter Green on a bittersweet rendition of Albatross (if the above numbers suggested didn't override it). What a treat that would have been! Next I could imagine - by stretching it even further, and I mean elasticity to the max here - Mick strapping on those missing balls he somehow lost and announcing - to the shock of the pugheads running the show - that two very special "guests" were about to join them for their second number. From the around the curtains appears none other than Bobs Welch and Weston, to the delight of the old Mac guard. Into Hypnotized (or Sentimental Lady or Miles Away) they go! Ta da! Now we're rampin' things up to far worthier FM heights than a silly tambourine. Finally as Pete and the Bob W's fade into the background, the BN era Five take front and center for a rousing and sentimental rendition of The Chain. Now that as I see it would bring down the house! At least, in the eyes of the Mac faithful, as opposed to latter day saints and posers.

But pinch me, alas I'm dreaming. BANJO PLEASE!

Originally Posted by AliceLover

Brett, Neale, and the backup singers sang on that performance.

Uh... who? Er.. whoop-de-doo [=> and as only the Hall would see fit]

[David]

Originally Posted by snoot

Beyond that, and as AliceLover called it, they should have used that unique opportunity to bring down the house. Amen.

The problem with that hope is that they weren't playing anything that year that brought the house down ... except perhaps for Stand Back. And who the hell wants to hear that again?

Now try this out for size. I could easily envisage Lindsey accompanying Peter Green on a bittersweet rendition of Albatross (if the above numbers suggested didn't override it).

I have a strong hunch Peter was asked whether he wanted to join the current band for a performance, & that he (I hope politely) declined.

Finally as Pete and the Bob W's fade into the background, the BN era Five take front and center for a rousing and sentimental rendition of The Chain. Now that as I see it would bring down the house!

But didn't The Chain suck that year? It was lethargic & croaky, wasn't it?

What's so uncool about the banjo? How many superficial rock stars can roll the banjo at speed?

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by snoot

Now try this out for size. I could easily envisage Lindsey and Jeremy accompanying Peter Green on a bittersweet rendition of Albatross (if the above numbers suggested didn't override it). What a treat that would have been! Next I could imagine - by stretching it even further, and I mean elasticity to the max here - Mick strapping on those missing balls he somehow lost and announcing - to the shock of the pugheads running the show - that two very special "guests" were about to join them for their second number. From the around the curtains appears none other than Bobs Welch and Weston, to the delight of the old Mac guard. Into Hypnotized (or Sentimental Lady or Miles Away) they go! Ta da! Now we're rampin' things up to far worthier FM heights than a silly tambourine. Finally as Pete and the Bob W's fade into the background, the BN era Five take front and center for a rousing and sentimental rendition of The Chain. Now that as I see it would bring down the house!

Hmmm. The vast majority of that would have moved me to tears -- and not the good kind.

Michele

[David]

I like their 1997 rendition of Say You Love Me. It's the Limelighters in me.

But maybe they should have played Tusk or The Chain instead.