New album?

[shackin'up]

Come on David. That's a joke about people of new media isn't it? Do you mean that? At least there is some realism in my recommendation: Lindsey said himself that he'd LOVE to work with Jack White. Not in a lifetime Stevie would, but one never knows with her.....maybe she likes him too.

[Fleetwoodmark]

They couldn't wait untill 2012/13. They would be too old, illness etc would hinder a tour and I don't think at that age a 50 date tour would be on the cards anyway, Lindsey and Stevie's voices wouldn't hold out.

I don't really rate Jack White all that much.

[daniellaaarisen]

Mick said that there was a "good chance" of a new Fleetwood Mac album when I met him in May. That being said, this is one long tour for a bunch of 60-year-olds so although I'm pretty sure they'll keep recording, our tour dates may be very limited or unexistent in the future.

I seriously, seriously hope that isn't the case-- Marissa and I are seriously planning to do everything we can to really dedicate ourselves to a new tour. But who knows?

One thing is fairly certain-- this will probably be Mac's last time out together.

[David]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Come on David. That's a joke about people of new media isn't it? Do you mean that?

No no no, they've done some excellent work in production & engineering. I have some of the CDs myself. I like the way they "hear."

[nailatixela]

They have to do another tour. At least we know they are not gonna get away without doing a farewell tour! (was unleashed really Farewell Part 1?)

[CADreaming]

They've probably already got stuff in the can. All the talk is just hype, imo. They have to have some material for the 'ol publicity machine, after all.

At any rate, I hope they do release one more batch of new material. It would be a nice.

Originally Posted by nailatixela

They have to do another tour. At least we know they are not gonna get away without doing a farewell tour! (was unleashed really Farewell Part 1?)

I think it was Farewell Warm Up, part 1...

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by David

No no no, they've done some excellent work in production & engineering. I have some of the CDs myself. I like the way they "hear."

What did they produce? I didn't find anything under their names immediately. didn't do alot of searching though. I'd like to hear some so I can see what you mean....

[The Chain]

I just hope, if there is a new project, it's a little more collaborative in spirit. I really love Say You Will, and while it can feel like a mash up of solo projects, with these artists, at that time, it was the best we were gonna get - and it was great. I like some of the material on SYW just as much Tusk, the best IMO.
But really. If there is going to be one more, or multiple studio projects from this Mac line-up, I really want to see them working closer. I mean, it's been said before, but this is basically Buckingham Nicks with one of the greatest rhythm sections in the modern blues rock world. We got a taste of what it could be like on SYW, but the process wasn't as intimate as it sounds. So I would love to see a real collaboration

[Fleetwoodmark]

Yeah. As much as I love SYW it is too disconnected. From What's the world coming to ---- Murrow turning in his grave. It doesn't flow.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by Fleetwoodmark

Yeah. As much as I love SYW it is too disconnected. From What's the world coming to ---- Murrow turning in his grave. It doesn't flow.

Exactly. I just hope they don't bow out with Say You Will being their final effort. There are some great songs, but I don't even know if I can call it an album with a straight face. There was seemingly no collaboration. It seems everyone was so spoiled, and egos were so big that they all couldn't just walk into a room TOGETHER, and flesh out songs, and craft and ALBUM. They all clearly came to the table with finished or nearly finished work, they barely seemed to interact, and the finished product just sounds like a mish mash of songs that have no place sitting beside each other.

I really don't know if there is another Mac album on the horizon at this point. There absolutely will be more touring. They may even tour for another decade (who knows, maybe longer). They've pretty much all clearly stated to the media that they weren't pleased with the end product of Say You Will. But I don't know if they can all truly swallow their personal issues, histories, and egos to make one last album. I hope they do... I truly hope they do. I agree, an outside producer is the way to go. The key would to be find a fine balance between Stevie's and Lindsey's sensibilities. Lindsey will want someone more progressive and "now," and Stevie will want someone more established and classic. I just don't know if it could really happen at this point without Christine. I think she was the moderating, mediating force between parties, and she's been gone for a dozen years now. A new album would be a WONDERFUL surprise, but I'm not expecting it at all at this point. Even if they did decide to record one, it would be well into late 2011 before we ever saw it, at the VERY earliest.

[Fleetwoodmark]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Exactly. I just hope they don't bow out with Say You Will being their final effort. There are some great songs, but I don't even know if I can call it an album with a straight face. There was seemingly no collaboration. It seems everyone was so spoiled, and egos were so big that they all couldn't just walk into a room TOGETHER, and flesh out songs, and craft and ALBUM. They all clearly came to the table with finished or nearly finished work, they barely seemed to interact, and the finished product just sounds like a mish mash of songs that have no place sitting beside each other.

I really don't know if there is another Mac album on the horizon at this point. There absolutely will be more touring. They may even tour for another decade (who knows, maybe longer). They've pretty much all clearly stated to the media that they weren't pleased with the end product of Say You Will. But I don't know if they can all truly swallow their personal issues, histories, and egos to make one last album. I hope they do... I truly hope they do. I agree, an outside producer is the way to go. The key would to be find a fine balance between Stevie's and Lindsey's sensibilities. Lindsey will want someone more progressive and "now," and Stevie will want someone more established and classic. I just don't know if it could really happen at this point without Christine. I think she was the moderating, mediating force between parties, and she's been gone for a dozen years now. A new album would be a WONDERFUL surprise, but I'm not expecting it at all at this point. Even if they did decide to record one, it would be well into late 2011 before we ever saw it, at the VERY earliest.

Great post.

I totally agree, When Christine left I think there was in Stevie & Lindsey 2 polar opposites in terms of what an album should be. I question some of Lindsey's production techniques on SYW (ie Murrow, Say Goodbye). These would have been more at home on one of his more esoteric solo works. He has to realise that Fleetwood Mac is a commercial venture and should remain so, As their best work was created with this in mind (Rumours, Tango).

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by Fleetwoodmark

Yeah. As much as I love SYW it is too disconnected. From What's the world coming to ---- Murrow turning in his grave. It doesn't flow.

Yes, the sequencing was horrible. Its not that hard to place similarly sounding songs in a specific order to make them flow... although Stevie likes to suggest its a rare talent she's proud to possess (see: Rumours) Probably another reason why she's still pouty about the SYW experience.

But, anyhoo, WTWCT was probably the right choice for Track 1, but Murrow is too jarring to be Track 2. I bet it turned off many of the casual fans who bought the album.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Yes, the sequencing was horrible. Its not that hard to place similarly sounding songs in a specific order to make them flow... although Stevie likes to suggest its a rare talent she's proud to possess (see: Rumours) Probably another reason why she's still pouty about the SYW experience.

But, anyhoo, WTWCT was probably the right choice for Track 1, but Murrow is too jarring to be Track 2. I bet it turned off many of the casual fans who bought the album.

It's all a matter of opinion Luke. To me Murrow was Lindsey's best track on the album. Having it as the second song greatly reminded me of his song The Ledge being the 2nd track on the Tusk album which was performed right after a slow, soothing Over & Over. It worked there and it works here as far as I'm concerned. Also I doubt any casual fans are interested in new music by Fleetwood Mac. They only want to hear the hits.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Probably another reason why she's still pouty about the SYW experience.

I would have loved it if they had put the sequencing arguments on Destiny Rules. Judging from SYW (the album) and the placement of Time Precious Time, if Lindsey was responsible for those 2 things, then I'd have to say his sequencing sensibilities stink.

Trying to piece things together, it sounds like they went to Hawaii post SYW production. Lindsey stayed behind for the engineering and since he was the only one there, he put his foot down when it came to final track sequence. To disastrous results.

The album opens badly and I always say that the match of RTTG and Silver Girl has cost several people their lives. There are certain patients who were transitioning well off of life support until they heard those 2 songs back to back. Then, tragedy struck.

The album ends nicely though with Say Goodbye and Goodbye Baby. Reminds me of Burns and Allen.

George: Say goodnight, Gracie.
Gracie: Goodnight Gracie.


Michele

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by The Chain

I just hope, if there is a new project, it's a little more collaborative in spirit.

I think it will be, to be honest. The Dance only partially reunited them-- the chemistry was revived but only applied to old, classic songs. There's a big difference between creating music and playing music; at the beginning of Say You Will, those four people had not created music together in 15 years. Plus, both Lindsey and Stevie went into the recording of SYW with recent successes in their solo careers and that mentality carried into the studio.

Now, they've spent the past few years very united as a band. Although Lindsey and Stevie have both maintained their solo careers, they now have the band at the forefront of their minds because its been their main professional focus.

I think we will have a better, more well-rounded album in the future-- as long as it is not put on pause for solo work. If we get a bunch of leftovers from solo albums like we did on SYW, the disconnection will continue.

Hopefully, Lindsey will realize that he can still be experimental and have artistic merit while still considering the band. Hopefully, Stevie will adapt to it and maybe use some of Lindsey's mindset to add to her own work.

There's no doubt in my mind that we could get a seriously great record. I just don't want the band looking at SYW like they did at Tusk and making a commercial album to follow it, hoping for a better result. At this point, anything too commercial might just sound old.