Sausalito Record Plant

[Lala]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

I've read Storms and I'm currently reading Mick's book... but I'm always up for some new Mac knowledge.

I'm currently re-reading Mick's book for the 4th time.

[cbBen]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

Is that book worth reading?

It's enjoyable but after the first 100 pages (which cover the band's backstory, the formation of the Rumours lineup, and the first album they cut together), the book is very close informationally to the Classic Albums documentary. So you won't learn too much if you're familiar with that DVD. One difference that I found interesting though is Lindsey's statement in the documentary that he "politely informed Mick that Stevie and I were a package deal" versus the account in the book of Keith Olsen, producer of Buckingham Nicks and the white Fleetwood Mac album:

"On New Year's Eve, Mick Fleetwood gave me a call.... '[R]emember those two kids, you played their songs for me? Do you think they'd want to join my band? We really want only the guitar player, but they're a duo, aren't they?' And I said, 'Yeah , if you take one you're gonna have to take the other, that's the honest-to-God truth.' So he says, 'Well, can you talk to them and see if they'd want to join my band?' So, I called Stevie and Lindsey. It was New Year's Eve. I had a date and a bottle of cheap champagne, and we went over. I sat upstairs with Lindsey and Stevie and my date, and we stayed there from 9:00 P.M 'til 2:00 A.M, trying to convince them to at least try it."

Maybe Lindsey had already said something to Keith ("if Mick asks he needs to know Stevie and I are a package..."). But, at least per this account, it is Keith who delivered the message and it is Mick who raised the issue in the first place. Lindsey seems to give more of an impression that he is the one who had to broach the subject. I think it's interesting to read that Mick had already realized that they couldn't be separated, that Keith merely confirmed the impression, and that had Mick called asking for Stevie Keith would have told him the same thing. The "package deal" kind of loyalty seems to be mutual rather than one-sided. I think Lindsey still deserves a lot of credit for refusing to jump at the offer without insisting that Stevie go with him, even if he did so via representative rather than directly. But I think Lindsey comes off a lot less martyrly in Keith's account than he does in his own description of events.

[fleetwoodtrick]

I tried to visit one of the plants that Tusk was recorded at... to find that it wasn't there. D: But my parents thought that these things that appear to be apartments could be what happened to it. I also visited some other Mac sites, but I'll make another thread later. I'm staying at my uncle's house in Malibu and it's like 6 hours away from Sausalito, so I won't be getting to see the plant. D:

I will post the pic tomorrow, it's too big to attach and once again, my wifi card is running out. :/

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by fleetwoodtrick

I tried to visit one of the plants that Tusk was recorded at... to find that it wasn't there. D: But my parents thought that these things that appear to be apartments could be what happened to it. I also visited some other Mac sites, but I'll make another thread later. I'm staying at my uncle's house in Malibu and it's like 6 hours away from Sausalito, so I won't be getting to see the plant. D:

I will post the pic tomorrow, it's too big to attach and once again, my wifi card is running out. :/

Well TUSK was recorded at The Village Recorder in L.A.. You could always take photos of that for us, On the side of the building there used to be/might still be/ a painting of a giant sawed- in half- grand piano.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by cbBen

"On New Year's Eve, Mick Fleetwood gave me a call.... '[R]emember those two kids, you played their songs for me? Do you think they'd want to join my band? We really want only the guitar player, but they're a duo, aren't they?' And I said, 'Yeah , if you take one you're gonna have to take the other, that's the honest-to-God truth.' So he says, 'Well, can you talk to them and see if they'd want to join my band?' So, I called Stevie and Lindsey. It was New Year's Eve. I had a date and a bottle of cheap champagne, and we went over. I sat upstairs with Lindsey and Stevie and my date, and we stayed there from 9:00 P.M 'til 2:00 A.M, trying to convince them to at least try it."

Stevie mentioned that even when Lindsey was in Fritz, he got an offer and the record company knew that they couldn't get him without her (which was odd, since they supposedly weren't even a couple then). So, maybe based on that history, Keith already knew they were a package deal.

Michele

[Gazz]

Hi all,

Well I have a Record Plant story from May this year. I combined my US holiday with a few FM concerts on the west coast including SF and LA. I did a ferry trip to Sausalito and found the place on foot. I was about 5 minutes away and saw a limo drive past. Thought nothing of it. When I arrived, there were a couple of limos and some other flash cars outside - see pics (have more but Danielle's are better).

I didn't know the place had closed down and thought some band was inside recording. I didn't have the nerve to go and knock on the door and just took a few photos and happily went on my way.

The next day, Mick's Youtube video went online. This day was also in that free time he mentioned that happened due to their cancelled Sacramento concert. I don't know for sure, but there is a fair chance that it was Mick and his "people" inside, about to shoot that video. I've compared the shadows in my pics with his video and it appears to be a similar time of day.

What bad luck with the timing? I'm sure he would have spoken to a lone Australian tourist who had made all that effort! I would have loved to meet him. Anyway, it's a great story to tell to Mac fans!

cheers, Gazz

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by cbBen

It's enjoyable but after the first 100 pages (which cover the band's backstory, the formation of the Rumours lineup, and the first album they cut together), the book is very close informationally to the Classic Albums documentary. So you won't learn too much if you're familiar with that DVD. One difference that I found interesting though is Lindsey's statement in the documentary that he "politely informed Mick that Stevie and I were a package deal" versus the account in the book of Keith Olsen, producer of Buckingham Nicks and the white Fleetwood Mac album:

"On New Year's Eve, Mick Fleetwood gave me a call.... '[R]emember those two kids, you played their songs for me? Do you think they'd want to join my band? We really want only the guitar player, but they're a duo, aren't they?' And I said, 'Yeah , if you take one you're gonna have to take the other, that's the honest-to-God truth.' So he says, 'Well, can you talk to them and see if they'd want to join my band?' So, I called Stevie and Lindsey. It was New Year's Eve. I had a date and a bottle of cheap champagne, and we went over. I sat upstairs with Lindsey and Stevie and my date, and we stayed there from 9:00 P.M 'til 2:00 A.M, trying to convince them to at least try it."

Maybe Lindsey had already said something to Keith ("if Mick asks he needs to know Stevie and I are a package..."). But, at least per this account, it is Keith who delivered the message and it is Mick who raised the issue in the first place. Lindsey seems to give more of an impression that he is the one who had to broach the subject. I think it's interesting to read that Mick had already realized that they couldn't be separated, that Keith merely confirmed the impression, and that had Mick called asking for Stevie Keith would have told him the same thing. The "package deal" kind of loyalty seems to be mutual rather than one-sided. I think Lindsey still deserves a lot of credit for refusing to jump at the offer without insisting that Stevie go with him, even if he did so via representative rather than directly. But I think Lindsey comes off a lot less martyrly in Keith's account than he does in his own description of events.

This is great! I have never heard this story. It is very detailed from Olsen's perspective, giving a little more credence. Of course, I'm not surprised at Stevie's romantic doctoring...

Originally Posted by michelej1

Stevie mentioned that even when Lindsey was in Fritz, he got an offer and the record company knew that they couldn't get him without her (which was odd, since they supposedly weren't even a couple then). So, maybe based on that history, Keith already knew they were a package deal.

Michele

But, Michele, how are they living in a house in Los Gatos, with bed on floor no less, (per Stevie's new Gypsy intros) if they are not together? I mean, come on...

[David]

Originally Posted by vivfox

Well TUSK was recorded at The Village Recorder in L.A.. You could always take photos of that for us, On the side of the building there used to be/might still be/ a painting of a giant sawed- in half- grand piano.

Is that what it is? I always thought it was a mural of the collapsed freeway overpass from the 1971 San Fernando earthquake.

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

But, Michele, how are they living in a house in Los Gatos, with bed on floor no less, (per Stevie's new Gypsy intros) if they are not together? I mean, come on...

I legitimately live in Los Gatos. Can someone do some major investigating and find an address or something? I live in Los Gatos, they lived in Los Gatos.......

Wow.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

I legitimately live in Los Gatos. Can someone do some major investigating and find an address or something? I live in Los Gatos, they lived in Los Gatos.......

Wow.

It's a shame. If Stevie had been talking about their little house all along, since the seventies, we'd probably have a pretty good idea where it was by now. But since she just let the cat (or should I say gato) out of the bag this tour, we're all clueless.

Michele

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by michelej1

It's a shame. If Stevie had been talking about their little house all along, since the seventies, we'd probably have a pretty good idea where it was by now. But since she just let the cat (or should I say gato) out of the bag this tour, we're all clueless.

Michele

You live in the Bay, right? If we ever get a clue where she lived around here, come see it with me!

Do local libraries hold that type of information? I'm determined!

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

You live in the Bay, right? If we ever get a clue where she lived around here, come see it with me!

Do local libraries hold that type of information? I'm determined!

Just ask around - someone has got to know or remember. I would think that they were renters though, so any library searching is probably moot.

Los Gatos is near San Jose state, right? Also, just read on the Bio site that she dropped out of college by '68 after her parents moved to Chicago...

It all paints a little different picture than all the stories we've heard.

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

Just ask around - someone has got to know or remember. I would think that they were renters though, so any library searching is probably moot.

Los Gatos is near San Jose state, right? Also, just read on the Bio site that she dropped out of college by '68 after her parents moved to Chicago...

It all paints a little different picture than all the stories we've heard.

Yeah, SJSU is like, 10 to 15 minutes max. We are also 45 minutes from San Francisco and 25 from Menlo Park and Atherton (to put "Stevie locations" into perspective).

That's another thing-- when the school term starts, I'm going to go dig up some stuff at MA. I was there looking for old yearbooks and things a few days ago but most of the campus is closed all summer do to construction. I'm going to harass a few older teachers there, too!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

Do local libraries hold that type of information? I'm determined!

I used to work in the archives at the University of Michigan and they had old telephone books there. The phone numbers had addresses with them. I remember looking up a phone number and address for Sonny Bono's dad when Sonny was born (in Detroit) in 1935. These phone books went back 50 years.

Everyone had their phone listed back then and I bet Lindsey probably would, because he was trying to break into the music business, right? If they shopped demos around, they would want people to be able to contact them, if their was interest in their music. So, even though there is no record of property ownership for them, maybe if you found old phone books you could find them. I know Lindsey and Stevie often had other roommates, so maybe the phone would be in someone else's name. But phone books might be the way to go.

That's the thing, if Stevie had mentioned Los Gatos earlier in their career, fans and journalists would have found out where they lived. But now the trail is cold and they probably weren't there for very long either.

Michele

[daniellaaarisen]

So I read in Mick's book that Stevie and Chris rented condos in Sausalito in the harbor, literally walking distance from The Plant. Has anyone ever gotten a more exact location? I am hopefully going to harass the people who own the plant until they let me go inside. The creeper in me needs to see Stevie and Chris' place too!