Michael Jackson heart problem

[shackin'up]

Well I feel sorry for his family and fans. But I hated the **** out of him. The only good thing ever on a Michael Jackson record was those thrilling ten seconds from Eddie van Halen.

He represented everything I despised during my youth. During Thriller I was still listening to Tusk everyday and I was into Iggy Pop, Talking Heads and discovering Led Zep and CCR because I was too young during their heydays. Michael just was the enemy. I'll miss him for that.

[HejiraNYC]

^^^^Wow, and I thought I was just sort of indifferent about MJ's music- but I didn't actually hate the man! Still... although I never really was a fan of MJ's, I could appreciate him as a musician and as a maverick in a lot of ways. Hate it or love it, he practically invented the genre of big theatrical dance pop music- copied today by Madonna, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, etc.

In death, I am distraught- not because I will miss him or his music. I just find it sad that he was a truly damaged person who, despite having so much wealth, fame and talent, just could not escape his own demons in the end.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

In death, I am distraught- not because I will miss him or his music. I just find it sad that he was a truly damaged person who, despite having so much wealth, fame and talent, just could not escape his own demons in the end.

Does wealth, fame, & talent really ever help anyone escape their demons? I think they probably helped create them, in his case. He had a terrible childhood by all accounts, and was apparently surrounded by leeches and sycophants as an adult, who I'm sure had a vested interest in his increasingly loose grip on reality. It's incredibly sad, but not entirely surprising that this happened.

It's interesting to me that what people are remembering is his musical talent, and not so much his grotesque personal life; I think it's unfortunate that it took him dying for that to happen, tho. And I say that as someone who was never a fan of his music.

[RoseGarden]

Originally Posted by markolas

It's interesting to me that what people are remembering is his musical talent, and not so much his grotesque personal life; I think it's unfortunate that it took him dying for that to happen, tho. And I say that as someone who was never a fan of his music.

I honestly don't think people realize that he came from an abusive father , with 9 living in a small home and the fact he became the cash cow very quickly once he fought his way to prove he was star material.

Of corse, I don't know all his personal stories, but the obvious does stand out. He was a young boy that was forced to grow into an adult world without much say in how his earnings would go.

On a real personal note, I am so sorry if back pain lead him to over take pain meds for relief. I understand lumbar and cervical nerve damage that can take over thoughts from the grueling pain...........I certaintly hope he is pain free and in the peaceful overside now............

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by RoseGarden

I honestly don't think people realize that he came from an abusive father , with 9 living in a small home and the fact he became the cash cow very quickly once he fought his way to prove he was star material.

Of corse, I don't know all his personal stories, but the obvious does stand out. He was a young boy that was forced to grow into an adult world without much say in how his earnings would go.

And that's not a unique story, there are several children artists that suffered the same. Most of them didn't have a normal adult life. But Michael was the most known example.

Rest in peace Michael. I loved your music in the 80s, dissapointed about your personal life/decisions during the 90s, but you were a great artist anyway.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by RoseGarden

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On a real personal note, I am so sorry if back pain lead him to over take pain meds for relief. I understand lumbar and cervical nerve damage that can take over thoughts from the grueling pain...........I certaintly hope he is pain free and in the peaceful overside now............

I think it started with the burns he got while doing that Pepsi commercial.

[Tango]

In case you missed it, there is an interview that Sheryl Crow did on CNN about Michael:


http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/sho...ckson.reax.cnn

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by markolas

It's interesting to me that what people are remembering is his musical talent, and not so much his grotesque personal life.

I'm remembering the impact on my life and childhood. The Jackson Five and later MJ were huge. As I said before, losing MJ and Farrah in one day is quite a jolt for any 70's child. Much has been said about the other stuff. I just don't want to go there right now. I'd rather just linger a bit in memories of a golden time when it seemed things were simpler and yet quite magical.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I'm remembering the impact on my life and childhood. The Jackson Five and later MJ were huge. As I said before, losing MJ and Farrah in one day is quite a jolt for any 70's child. Much has been said about the other stuff. I just don't want to go there right now. I'd rather just linger a bit in memories of a golden time when it seemed things were simpler and yet quite magical.

I think I'm just a hair too young to get what the big deal was about Farrah Fawcett - I think I was like 2 when Charlie's Angels went off the air. Anything from the '70s freaked me out when I was little, for some reason. MJ was def. a fixture throughout my childhood, tho I remember him just as much for his personal oddities as for his music.

[Livia]

I'm supposed to be getting ready to go out, but I've been glued to VH1 Classic for the last 90 minutes - they're running videos all weekend.

I agree w/ David, I do prefer MJ's vocals from earlier in his career. As soon his death was confirmed, the radio station I had on played "I Want You Back." I've got a Jackson 5 greatest hits CD and my favorite track on there is "Who's Loving You."

I went to my favorite BBQ joint for lunch yesterday - when I walked in, a Jackson 5 song was playing. I asked the cashier if they were playing nothing but MJ songs or if it was a coincidence. He said they had the 70s station on and it was just coincidence (the next song was Clapton). I almost lost it, but I haven't cried at all until today.

No one on the planet can dance like him. I was just noticing that even when Michael would dance in a group, and they were all doing the same moves, he stood out amongst them - his moves were always sharper and just popped more. I don't think that was intentional, for the other dancers to hold back, Michael was just so much better.

I can't believe I don't own Thriller. Now I want the 25th Anniv. edition.

[GoldDustBoy]

This is amazing... 52 of his songs are currently on the itunes top 100... I hope his kids benefit from this since he was in such a bad financial position.

[SNLB]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've got a Jackson 5 greatest hits CD and my favorite track on there is "Who's Loving You."

I've told this story several times since I heard about Michael Jackson passing. I've heard his music throughout my lifetime. I like some of his songs and although I didn't follow him, say, like Fleetwood Mac, I own a few of his cds. Years ago, during a miniseries about Michael Jackson, I heard him sing a song for the first time. I asked my sister what the song was as she knew more about MJ's music than I do, and she told me it was Who's Lovin' You. This is not a song that is really my cup of tea (give me The Love You Save, Music And Me, Beat It, or The Way You Make Me Feel any day!), but I could NOT believe what was coming out of that kid's mouth! Here was this 10 year old kid with a vocal take of a 40 year old on a big old blues song. It floored me. I took my iPod to work and even had a couple of people listen to the song.

Like him or not, Micheal Jackson was a huge talent. His dancing alone speaks for itself. He did all right in the music department too. Rest in peace, Michael.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Hate it or love it, he practically invented the genre of big theatrical dance pop music- copied today by Madonna, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, etc.

Well, the answer is: Hate it. All of it that he invented. I guess I really don't like big theatrical dance-pop-music.

I can see how the guy was a big influence, performer, and what an icon it was, but I would have liked it if he had taken the chance to make a " Tusk" and not again and again make slight variations on his dancepopsongs.

[David]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Well I feel sorry for his family and fans. But I hated the **** out of him. The only good thing ever on a Michael Jackson record was those thrilling ten seconds from Eddie van Halen.

He represented everything I despised during my youth. During Thriller I was still listening to Tusk everyday and I was into Iggy Pop, Talking Heads and discovering Led Zep and CCR because I was too young during their heydays. Michael just was the enemy. I'll miss him for that.

Some of Jackson's early tracks have something in common with Fleetwood Mac: intricate orchestration in which some instruments are used to simulate other instruments or sounds.

[Hawkeye]

It was just so strange to be in Canada when Michael Jakson suddenly died. And then I came home to Phoneix and find out that Farahh Fawcett the inspiration to my Rumours era hair cut had also died. Well I just didn't know what to do.