Stevie was awful tonight *spoilers*

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by darla

I understand what you are saying, but come on now. Lindsay is still
preforming I'm so afraid how many times now. And big love is boring now.
I saw him solo two years ago, I liked him but he is still doing the samething.
I think if it wasn't for his children, he would still be in the studio forever making that solo album. Sorry Stevie is FM....Yes if she wanted to, she
would still out sell Lindsay, he didn't sell that many cd's...Was he nominated
for a grammy with his two solo cd's no....He's no better. I think he is
showing off, because not a lot of people showed at his concerts. When I
went the hall held 3,000 seats, only 800 maybe were there....
Sorry that's my opinion....
Darla




QUOTE=carrie721;802722]you are not the first person to draw a parallel between the relationship he has with stevie and the relationships he has with people who are closer to him. this is interesting to me because no matter how great a connection anyone feels with her music, no one here is a close friend of stevie's. no one here is her family. the reality is that the relationship you have with stevie is not analogous to the relationship you have with your friends and family.

all that aside, i don't think anyone is taking issue with change. change is not inherently bad. it's an inevitability. experience, circumstance, and our own temperaments conspire to shape us through the years. the changes many of us see in stevie reveal her to be disengaged, inert, and contemptuous towards music consumers, and those are the qualities that leave a bitter taste in our mouths.

and, ironically, in many ways it is her inflexibility that rankles. she isn't making new music. she isn't offering new perspectives on the old stuff. she isn't collaborating with interesting people, branching out into other forms of art and media, or connecting with her fans in innovative ways. i mean she abandoned the nicks fix for a gazillion years and then the best we got was "the kennedy's" (sic)?

despite her convincing arguments on the destiny rules doc against the double album concept, she does not understand this brave new music world. while other older artists, like annie lennox, are embracing the (not so) new technology of itunes and youtube, stevie has deemed computers evil and has said that making a new album isn't worth it because people will just steal the music anyway.

lindsey is arguably the most shameless member of the band when it comes to admitting that the "unleashed" tour is nothing but a cash grab, but even he has released 2 albums in the last 2-3 years, well aware that he could never dream of approaching rumours-era sales. this leads me to believe that latter-day stevie is little more than a mercenary whose muse dried up decades ago.

and re: giving up on the people in your life who have changed:

that depends heavily on the circumstances. but i have cut people out of my life who turned into utterly unrecognizable incarnations of themselves. i don't see anything wrong with limiting or eliminating your exposure to someone whose presence in your life results in a net loss. i think that's what many of us have experienced with stevie.

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Lindsey - spelled just like that.. was the person who crafted all the songs by Stevie you adore. He is a musical genius. The fact that he is still making solo records proves that he does this for the MUSIC, while Stevie tours every summer with ticket prices over $100 with the SAME exact set list.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by darla

I understand what you are saying, but come on now. Lindsay is still preforming I'm so afraid how many times now. And big love is boring now.
I saw him solo two years ago, I liked him but he is still doing the samething.
I think if it wasn't for his children, he would still be in the studio forever making that solo album. Sorry Stevie is FM....Yes if she wanted to, she
would still out sell Lindsay, he didn't sell that many cd's...Was he nominated
for a grammy with his two solo cd's no....He's no better. I think he is
showing off, because not a lot of people showed at his concerts. When I
went the hall held 3,000 seats, only 800 maybe were there....
Sorry that's my opinion....
Darla

Your opinion is the most intelligent I've read in months. You don't even know how to spell Lindsey's name. Still you think you know what you talk about. Unbelievable.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by badanimals87

Yes, we were all the way to the right as well. Your friend had curly blonde hair and glasses, right? For some reason I thought she had made it up to the stage.

Nope, not us. This is me & Theresa in the pic in her signature:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/member.php?u=2998

[badanimals87]

Originally Posted by skcin

Nope, not us. This is me & Theresa in the pic in her signature:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/member.php?u=2998

Well ok...I guess it was a completely different Paula all together!

[Steviefan49]

Lindsey - spelled just like that.. was the person who crafted all the songs by Stevie you adore. He is a musical genius. The fact that he is still making solo records proves that he does this for the MUSIC, while Stevie tours every summer with ticket prices over $100 with the SAME exact set list.[/QUOTE]

Yes.. but one huge difference.... Stevie "CAN" sell out a venue... LINDSEY..... "Oh Well" LOL

[Moz]

Ugh, this "Stevie is old and boring" and "Lindsey is an egotistical bastard who can't sell albums" crap is getting old.

Originally Posted by darla

I understand what you are saying, but come on now. Lindsay is still
preforming I'm so afraid how many times now. And big love is boring now.
I saw him solo two years ago, I liked him but he is still doing the samething.
I think if it wasn't for his children, he would still be in the studio forever making that solo album. Sorry Stevie is FM....Yes if she wanted to, she
would still out sell Lindsay, he didn't sell that many cd's...Was he nominated
for a grammy with his two solo cd's no....He's no better. I think he is
showing off, because not a lot of people showed at his concerts. When I
went the hall held 3,000 seats, only 800 maybe were there....
Sorry that's my opinion....
Darla

Mick and John are Fleetwood Mac. btw I disagree with Stevie being FM... FM had been around for years before Stevie and Lindsey joined.

"with his two solo cd's"

I don't know if you're just talking about his 'recent stuff', but he's made more solo cds than that.

[darla]

Sorry LINDSEY.....
And I still think I am right!
And I do know what I am talking about....
Have you seen Lindsey solo...Same ****. His new CD'S are boring............
Sorry......
How many did he sell
12 copies???????????????????????????
Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lindsey couldn't shine Stevie's shoes.......
I could care less what you people think, time will tell.....
Watch and learn people...........

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Your opinion is the most intelligent I've read in months. You don't even know how to spell Lindsey's name. Still you think you know what you talk about. Unbelievable.

[Steviefan49]

Originally Posted by Moz

Mick and John are Fleetwood Mac. btw I disagree with Stevie being FM... FM had been around for years before Stevie and Lindsey joined.

True that Moz, but I think she was talking more in the present tense, and not long ago.. Let's not forget our Bob Welch, Peter Green and those greats too! LOL

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by Angel69

Yes it is not a personal relationship but it is a relationship just the same. One that has gone on for many many years. I was not comparing my relationship with family, friends etc to the more superficial one with a celebrity. I was acknowledging the fact that just because someone changes, they are still the same person.

I have left people in the dust in my life who were inherently detrimental to either the relationship or my mental state. Stevie seeming bored at a concert or not releasing new music is not detrimental and is not making me lose any sleep.

I wouldn't even bother with her, she like to troll this forum. I need to figure out how to hide certain handles cause she will be on teh top of my list. And that huge pic she has of that obscure singer who no one listens to needs to go.

Seriously why would someone come into a FM/SN forum and put a big picture on their signature unless they are trying to troll the forum? It is beyond annoying.

[darla]

Ok I agree with you....FM has been around a very long time.

And yes this topic is getting old. People put Stevie down,
the ones who do, can they get up in front of thousands and sing.
Takes guts and doing it for over 30 years....
Let's change the topic people and listen to Lindsey once again
play I'm so afraid for howmany times too many...Ha!
He is a lounge act now too.

Originally Posted by Moz

Ugh, this "Stevie is old and boring" and "Lindsey is an egotistical bastard who can't sell albums" crap is getting old.



Mick and John are Fleetwood Mac. btw I disagree with Stevie being FM... FM had been around for years before Stevie and Lindsey joined.

[Moz]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

Seriously why would someone come into a FM/SN forum and put a big picture on their signature unless they are trying to troll the forum? It is beyond annoying.

Uh, maybe because she likes other artists and she wants to put their picture in her sig? You're making it sound like she has goaste in her sig.

[Moz]

Originally Posted by darla

Ok I agree with you....FM has been around a very long time.

And yes this topic is getting old. People put Stevie down,
the ones who do, can they get up in front of thousands and sing.
Takes guts and doing it for over 30 years....
Let's change the topic people and listen to Lindsey once again
play I'm so afraid for howmany times too many...Ha!
He is a lounge act now too.

Do you understand how hypocritical that sounds? "Oh, we can't make fun of Stevie, but Lindsey sucks!!"

[kak125]

So I am watching Palladia right now and they are showing the FM concert from 2004 and the amount of energy Stevie has here is crazy. I havent seen this in a while and she seems to be on fire compared to when I saw her on Sunday. I thought she was really good at the show but I guess I just kinda missed her moving around more and her interaction with Lindsey.
If I didnt know better I would have thought they werent getting along. Of course she said they werent getting along on SYW tour if I am correct but yet they seem to be having a blast. Strange!

I am interested to hear what happens at tonight's show.

[darla]

That is correct...I know Lindsey made more than two CD'S.
Peter Green was great writer and guitar player and yes Bob Welch....
I am talking about the present .....
Darla

Originally Posted by Steviefan49

True that Moz, but I think she was talking more in the present tense, and not long ago.. Let's not forget our Bob Welch, Peter Green and those greats too! LOL

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by Moz

Do you understand how hypocritical that sounds? "Oh, we can't make fun of Stevie, but Lindsey sucks!!"

Well said!!