Stevie was awful tonight *spoilers*

[sparky]

Originally Posted by TheScoop

I'm upset with pretty much every aspect of her performance last night. Well, disappointed, not upset. I have seen Stevie so many times and I can tell when she's into it and when she's not. But last night it seemed she was feeling nothing. It was such a "go through the motions" performance that it was almost sad. This is why I feel that it might be time for her to retire. I would rather remember her for the way that she was than how she is today. And by today, I mean literally today - 2009. I saw her with FM over a dozen times on the SYW tour and on the TV and GD tours of 2005, and she was excellent. Not as good as her prime years obviously, but still put on a good show with a passionate effort. Even on the CV tour, she put on a pretty good show. But seeing her last night seeming so devoid of feeling the words that she sings is so un-Stevie like. For those of you who have watched her for years, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with how fast she twirls or how hard she bangs that tambourine, but the feeling she sends out into the crowd while she's performing. She had that magic, no matter how she looked, what she was wearing, or how good or bad she might have been feeling. But that magic was no where to be found last night. She had zero chemistry with Lindsey and she rarely even looked at him. She just wasn't connecting with anything - not with the crowd, not with her band, not with her songs, and not with herself. As a long time fan, it was pretty disappointing.

Scoop, I have no idea who you are and have had no interaction with you. But from this post alone, I will disagree with the many and deem you authentic and not a troll.

As if you give two rips what I think.



I've seen too many phoned in performances to think that your reaction is merely naysaying and dissing just to diss.
I get the impression that you really are a lifelong fan and you are going through the kind of thing I went through many many years ago.

I skipped the CV tour. And the Gold Dust tour, I think. I dunno. I can't remember anymore. I have seen so many shows it is very difficult to keep track anymore. I know there were a few shows I could have just drove 15 minutes to the Greek, got my comps and parking, gone backstage and done it all free. I couldn't be bothered.

But let me say this - I don't disbelieve a word of what you say.

SO many people are so enamored of Stevie (and her bank account thanks you for it) that she simply needs to show up and be alive for them to be thrilled. The expectations
are bottom of the barrel. I have been there. Just simply seeing her in person can be such a thrill, and such a fulfillment of a fantasy that all objectivity flies straight out the window.

Add to this the idea that she is this odd vessel that people project their own weaknesses and neuroses onto and you have an odd situation. People almost WANT her to be weak
and fragile. It fulfills some bizarre fantasy they have about her and themselves. "It's just nerves! It's only the first show! She must have had a bad day!"

It is a million and one excuses to make her seem more human and flawed in order to make her seem down to earth.

The fact is that she is, or should be, a professional. First and foremost. They had weeks of rehearsal. They should have a top notch sound and light crew. There is NO excuse for that monitor drama. No expense is spared, and they are asking for a king's ransom for each evening they perform. The ticket prices you people are paying reflect
that.

So should the audience expect perfection?

YES. Damn near, the audience should.

From people who have been doing this for a living for 40 years? Damn right they should expect perfect. Try flubbing **** and blowing lyrics and sleepwalking through a Broadway opening. 10 million gone. Show closed. Rock and Roll my ass. People expect professionals to be professionals. God knows my ass would be fired if my set sucked on the first shoot day.

Would Tina Turner's audience balk at her screwing up her dancing during Nutbush? Almost falling off as she scuttled across a scaffolding a few feet wide above the audience with no net?

Of course they would.

Would Madonna's audience howl and blog in horror if her dancing and interaction with her props and scenery looked clunky on the first night? Would they screech and hoot in disgust and call her a hack when they paid a fortune for a flawless performance?

You're damned right they would and with good reason.

They paid top dollar and expect a well rehearsed and professional show. No matter the fact that a mere human being is doing the performing. You demand over a hundred bucks for the privilege of watching you perform and you better damned well deliver.

For some incredibly screwed up reason, a lot of people love for Stevie to be weak. They sympathize, they love her for being nervous. They project their own shortcomings on her - being sick, being tired, being fat, you name it.
It humanizes her, but it also gives her carte blanche to turn in blase performances. Which she has done on and off for her entire career for various and sundry reasons.

Don't get me wrong. I have seen her be brilliant. And I ate it up and counted myself lucky. And I have seen her be dismal. Utterly dismal and unprofessional even in the past few years when purportedly sober.

There are lots of young fans here and even older ones who are still mesmerized by her every move. Of course her every gesture enthralls them. They are under the spell of her persona, which is still considerable. If I had a few bucks for every friend I drug to a show that intoxicated me and my guest said, "That's it?"



Love's a state of mind, indeed.

So, I don't fork over money anymore. I would rather remember the glory shows I have seen. I'm interested in
emotional involvement and full commitment in shows and performers.
Homegirl is just pulling a retirement paycheck these days and god bless her that she can. I hope she makes a few million on this tour, gets a kick ass face job from Catherine Deneuve's surgeon, gets truly inspired again, and does one more album.

Odds are highly against it but it would be a sweet coda to an uneven but fascinating career.

For now I've made my contribution to her bank account. Ten times over. I'm happy to watch the videos.

Thank you for your honest posts.

God knows people have chafed at mine over the years.

As for the performances...

Good god, Storms isn't supposed to be barked.

It ought to be whispered.

Points for effort, regardless.

Don't Stop made my teeth hurt. WTF with that hamhanded
piano from Tuggle?

And Rosie deserves a years late Emmy for her Stevie spinning impersonation on Arsenio Hall years ago.

The Stand Back spins from 3/1/09 confirmed her prophecy.

Slo Mo. Bored. Utterly disengaged.

[pberry]

I really appreciate Sparky's post. I think I'm a bit more sympathetic but do agree how we FM and SN fans are often so intensely committed that we are unable of saying anything that might sound like critique.

[michelej1]

You know the idea that Stevie forgot lyrics last night is just wrong. Saying "turned" instead of "walked" is not forgetting the lyrics. She changed a word on Stand Back and sure she doesn't sing Christine's words to Don't Stop or SYLM, but I don't think she forgot them so much as she has never known them.

You guys are talking about her flubbing lines as if she stumbled her way through Dreams and couldn't remember whether she was keeping her visions or her venison to herself. Well, that didn't happen. Not even close. It's one thing to say she was not a ball of fire, but the descriptions are getting absurd, as if she practically had to be picked up off the floor and there were klonopin flashbacks. Nothing could be further from the truth. Yeah, if you've seen her a lot, you could tell that she wasn't at her best, but people who were introduced to her yesterday probably thought they got a flawless show from her. And I couldn't tell them they're wrong.

Michele

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by sparky

Scoop, I have no idea who you are and have had no interaction with you. But from this post alone, I will disagree with the many and deem you authentic and not a troll.

As if you give two rips what I think.



I've seen too many phoned in performances to think that your reaction is merely naysaying and dissing just to diss.
I get the impression that you really are a lifelong fan and you are going through the kind of thing I went through many many years ago.

I skipped the CV tour. And the Gold Dust tour, I think. I dunno. I can't remember anymore. I have seen so many shows it is very difficult to keep track anymore. I know there were a few shows I could have just drove 15 minutes to the Greek, got my comps and parking, gone backstage and done it all free. I couldn't be bothered.

But let me say this - I don't disbelieve a word of what you say.

SO many people are so enamored of Stevie (and her bank account thanks you for it) that she simply needs to show up and be alive for them to be thrilled. The expectations
are bottom of the barrel. I have been there. Just simply seeing her in person can be such a thrill, and such a fulfillment of a fantasy that all objectivity flies straight out the window.

Add to this the idea that she is this odd vessel that people project their own weaknesses and neuroses onto and you have an odd situation. People almost WANT her to be weak
and fragile. It fulfills some bizarre fantasy they have about her and themselves. "It's just nerves! It's only the first show! She must have had a bad day!"

It is a million and one excuses to make her seem more human and flawed in order to make her seem down to earth.

The fact is that she is, or should be, a professional. First and foremost. They had weeks of rehearsal. They should have a top notch sound and light crew. There is NO excuse for that monitor drama. No expense is spared, and they are asking for a king's ransom for each evening they perform. The ticket prices you people are paying reflect
that.

So should the audience expect perfection?

YES. Damn near, the audience should.

From people who have been doing this for a living for 40 years? Damn right they should expect perfect. Try flubbing **** and blowing lyrics and sleepwalking through a Broadway opening. 10 million gone. Show closed. Rock and Roll my ass. People expect professionals to be professionals. God knows my ass would be fired if my set sucked on the first shoot day.

Would Tina Turner's audience balk at her screwing up her dancing during Nutbush? Almost falling off as she scuttled across a scaffolding a few feet wide above the audience with no net?

Of course they would.

Would Madonna's audience howl and blog in horror if her dancing and interaction with her props and scenery looked clunky on the first night? Would they screech and hoot in disgust and call her a hack when they paid a fortune for a flawless performance?

You're damned right they would and with good reason.

They paid top dollar and expect a well rehearsed and professional show. No matter the fact that a mere human being is doing the performing. You demand over a hundred bucks for the privilege of watching you perform and you better damned well deliver.

For some incredibly screwed up reason, a lot of people love for Stevie to be weak. They sympathize, they love her for being nervous. They project their own shortcomings on her - being sick, being tired, being fat, you name it.
It humanizes her, but it also gives her carte blanche to turn in blase performances. Which she has done on and off for her entire career for various and sundry reasons.

Don't get me wrong. I have seen her be brilliant. And I ate it up and counted myself lucky. And I have seen her be dismal. Utterly dismal and unprofessional even in the past few years when purportedly sober.

There are lots of young fans here and even older ones who are still mesmerized by her every move. Of course her every gesture enthralls them. They are under the spell of her persona, which is still considerable. If I had a few bucks for every friend I drug to a show that intoxicated me and my guest said, "That's it?"



Love's a state of mind, indeed.

So, I don't fork over money anymore. I would rather remember the glory shows I have seen. I'm interested in
emotional involvement and full commitment in shows and performers.
Homegirl is just pulling a retirement paycheck these days and god bless her that she can. I hope she makes a few million on this tour, gets a kick ass face job from Catherine Deneuve's surgeon, gets truly inspired again, and does one more album.

Odds are highly against it but it would be a sweet coda to an uneven but fascinating career.

For now I've made my contribution to her bank account. Ten times over. I'm happy to watch the videos.

Thank you for your honest posts.

God knows people have chafed at mine over the years.

As for the performances...

Good god, Storms isn't supposed to be barked.

It ought to be whispered.

Points for effort, regardless.

Don't Stop made my teeth hurt. WTF with that hamhanded
piano from Tuggle?

And Rosie deserves a years late Emmy for her Stevie spinning impersonation on Arsenio Hall years ago.

The Stand Back spins from 3/1/09 confirmed her prophecy.

Slo Mo. Bored. Utterly disengaged.

Yes. 99% yes (the 1% is that I will be going to another show because unlike you, I can not stop myself). I have been saying the same thing since TISL. Stevie (for me) has been emotionally gone with few moments of interest for years. I like how scoop says it's not how hard she bangs her tambourine or how fast she spins- it's the fact that she is not emotionally present much anymore. It could be that those of us who have seen her in her glory days are comparing too harshly.

I'll go and I will find a moment of fabulousness with Stevie and try not to focus on her disinterest.

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by sparky

Scoop, I have no idea who you are and have had no interaction with you. But from this post alone, I will disagree with the many and deem you authentic and not a troll.

As if you give two rips what I think.



I've seen too many phoned in performances to think that your reaction is merely naysaying and dissing just to diss.
I get the impression that you really are a lifelong fan and you are going through the kind of thing I went through many many years ago.

I skipped the CV tour. And the Gold Dust tour, I think. I dunno. I can't remember anymore. I have seen so many shows it is very difficult to keep track anymore. I know there were a few shows I could have just drove 15 minutes to the Greek, got my comps and parking, gone backstage and done it all free. I couldn't be bothered.

But let me say this - I don't disbelieve a word of what you say.

SO many people are so enamored of Stevie (and her bank account thanks you for it) that she simply needs to show up and be alive for them to be thrilled. The expectations
are bottom of the barrel. I have been there. Just simply seeing her in person can be such a thrill, and such a fulfillment of a fantasy that all objectivity flies straight out the window.

Add to this the idea that she is this odd vessel that people project their own weaknesses and neuroses onto and you have an odd situation. People almost WANT her to be weak
and fragile. It fulfills some bizarre fantasy they have about her and themselves. "It's just nerves! It's only the first show! She must have had a bad day!"

It is a million and one excuses to make her seem more human and flawed in order to make her seem down to earth.

The fact is that she is, or should be, a professional. First and foremost. They had weeks of rehearsal. They should have a top notch sound and light crew. There is NO excuse for that monitor drama. No expense is spared, and they are asking for a king's ransom for each evening they perform. The ticket prices you people are paying reflect
that.

So should the audience expect perfection?

YES. Damn near, the audience should.

From people who have been doing this for a living for 40 years? Damn right they should expect perfect. Try flubbing **** and blowing lyrics and sleepwalking through a Broadway opening. 10 million gone. Show closed. Rock and Roll my ass. People expect professionals to be professionals. God knows my ass would be fired if my set sucked on the first shoot day.

Would Tina Turner's audience balk at her screwing up her dancing during Nutbush? Almost falling off as she scuttled across a scaffolding a few feet wide above the audience with no net?

Of course they would.

Would Madonna's audience howl and blog in horror if her dancing and interaction with her props and scenery looked clunky on the first night? Would they screech and hoot in disgust and call her a hack when they paid a fortune for a flawless performance?

You're damned right they would and with good reason.

They paid top dollar and expect a well rehearsed and professional show. No matter the fact that a mere human being is doing the performing. You demand over a hundred bucks for the privilege of watching you perform and you better damned well deliver.

For some incredibly screwed up reason, a lot of people love for Stevie to be weak. They sympathize, they love her for being nervous. They project their own shortcomings on her - being sick, being tired, being fat, you name it.
It humanizes her, but it also gives her carte blanche to turn in blase performances. Which she has done on and off for her entire career for various and sundry reasons.

Don't get me wrong. I have seen her be brilliant. And I ate it up and counted myself lucky. And I have seen her be dismal. Utterly dismal and unprofessional even in the past few years when purportedly sober.

There are lots of young fans here and even older ones who are still mesmerized by her every move. Of course her every gesture enthralls them. They are under the spell of her persona, which is still considerable. If I had a few bucks for every friend I drug to a show that intoxicated me and my guest said, "That's it?"



Love's a state of mind, indeed.

So, I don't fork over money anymore. I would rather remember the glory shows I have seen. I'm interested in
emotional involvement and full commitment in shows and performers.
Homegirl is just pulling a retirement paycheck these days and god bless her that she can. I hope she makes a few million on this tour, gets a kick ass face job from Catherine Deneuve's surgeon, gets truly inspired again, and does one more album.

Odds are highly against it but it would be a sweet coda to an uneven but fascinating career.

For now I've made my contribution to her bank account. Ten times over. I'm happy to watch the videos.

Thank you for your honest posts.

God knows people have chafed at mine over the years.

As for the performances...

Good god, Storms isn't supposed to be barked.

It ought to be whispered.

Points for effort, regardless.

Don't Stop made my teeth hurt. WTF with that hamhanded
piano from Tuggle?

And Rosie deserves a years late Emmy for her Stevie spinning impersonation on Arsenio Hall years ago.

The Stand Back spins from 3/1/09 confirmed her prophecy.

Slo Mo. Bored. Utterly disengaged.

Reviewing a performance is fine with most , calling for her to end her career is absolute rubish and i think that is what bothered many people here.

BTW Broadway shows have enourmous amounts of practice and then do a run off broadway to work out the kinks. Many performers do flub their lines and often.

I have seen her on every tour since 95 and CV was her best performance of them all sorry you missed that one.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

Reviewing a performance is fine with most , calling for her to end her career is absolute rubish and i think that is what bothered many people here.

many people take issue with any "negative" comment about the ~gypsy queen~.

what's wrong with wanting her to go out with some semblance of grace and style? too late for that by some people's standards, but still?

BTW Broadway shows have enourmous amounts of practice and then do a run off broadway to work out the kinks. Many performers do flub their lines and often.

fleetwood mac has been playing these songs for over 30 years.

i am no broadway historian, but i'm pretty sure that's more "rehearsal" than those shows get.

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by carrie721

many people take issue with any "negative" comment about the ~gypsy queen~.

what's wrong with wanting her to go out with some semblance of grace and style? too late for that by some people's standards, but still?



fleetwood mac has been playing these songs for over 30 years.

i am no broadway historian, but i'm pretty sure that's more "rehearsal" than those shows get.

Not the same. They (Stevie/FM) take long breaks in between, whereas a Broadway show is continuous then it ends.

Openning night jitters are a very common occurence regardless of the venue or performer. Or maybe she has slowed way down and that is ok as well. When you love someone you forgive and allow them to "slow down".

Judy Garland was supposedly a mess on stage toward the end but fans kept coming because they loved her.

I think it comes down to the fact that some people are more forgiving then others and they hold people to unrealistic standards.

I cannot imagine being 60 and hearing people saying that I should "retire" cause I am not the same "performer" I was 5, 10 , 15 years prior. If It did happen I would be sending out some real big F**k Offs.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

Not the same. They (Stevie/FM) take long breaks in between, whereas a Broadway show is continuous then it ends.

Openning night jitters are a very common occurence regardless of the venue or performer. Or maybe she has slowed way down and that is ok as well. When you love someone you forgive and allow them to "slow down".

Judy Garland was supposedly a mess on stage toward the end but fans kept coming because they loved her.

I think it comes down to the fact that some people are more forgiving then others and they hold people to unrealistic standards.

I cannot imagine being 60 and hearing people saying that I should "retire" cause I am not the same "performer" I was 5, 10 , 15 years prior. If It did happen I would be sending out some real big F**k Offs.

i've never performed in a long-running show, but i've been involved in plenty of competitions and auditions. you don't get any credit for jitters. they're supposed to be professionals.

many violinists have to stop performing if they injure their hands or get arthritis or carpal tunnel. even if they could still physically perform, they can't play to the standards they have set for themselves. why would a vocalist be any different?

and finally, i do not love stevie nicks. i was a big fan for years, and i've given her plenty of leeway. but the love thing ... not so much.

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i've never performed in a long-running show, but i've been involved in plenty of competitions and auditions. you don't get any credit for jitters. they're supposed to be professionals.

many violinists have to stop performing if they injure their hands or get arthritis or carpal tunnel. even if they could still physically perform, they can't play to the standards they have set for themselves. why would a vocalist be any different?

and finally, i do not love stevie nicks. i was a big fan for years, and i've given her plenty of leeway. but the love thing ... not so much.

Sorry that not everyone meets your standards. Luckily for most of us she will not be retiring anytime soon. What is that famous quote ??? something like the reports on my death have been highly exagerated???

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by sparky

SO many people are so enamored of Stevie (and her bank account thanks you for it) that she simply needs to show up and be alive for them to be thrilled. The expectations are bottom of the barrel.

I'm not trying to be contrary and disagree with your post, but I'd like to add a different perspective, if I may.

As someone who has checked out several Tina Turner and Madonna message boards, I have seen many of their fans issue the same complaints about them, that some of Stevie's fans have about her. "Lackluster," "phoned-in," "not as energetic as she used to be," etc.

You should have seen the clamor when Madonna fell during one of her shows last year.

I think it's almost universal among fan communities.

As far as professionalism... well, athletes have off-days too. As do actors. Even doctors and nurses. No matter how long you've been in your field, you're never going to reach perfection, as hard as you may try. People flub lines during the middle of 'Our Town.' They miss a free-throw that they've made countless times before. It happens.

Additionally, I don't think anyone's projecting their own insecurities or shortcomings onto Stevie by allowing for the fact that the woman is human. Seems to me that -- and this is only my opinion -- fans who are capable of seeing a celebrity as flawed and imperfect tend to be more realistic in their expectations.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Additionally, I don't think anyone's projecting their own insecurities or shortcomings onto Stevie by allowing for the fact that the woman is human. Seems to me that -- and this is only my opinion -- fans who are capable of seeing a celebrity as flawed and imperfect tend to be more realistic in their expectations.

i disagree. i think when anyone is overinvested in a celebrity (and we have all been there - even those of us who are bitter and jaded and over stevie), it says more about a person's weaknesses than his or her strengths. it doesn't matter who the celebrity in question is; by and large i think the people who become enthralled do it because they feel the celeb represents something that is missing in their lives. why else would someone pour so much money and time into a group of people who will never play a tangible role in their lives? it's the reason that meeting your idols is so often a disappointment. the reality is always shaped differently than the hole the fantasy filled.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by wolfontherun

BTW Broadway shows have enourmous amounts of practice and then do a run off broadway to work out the kinks.

I am familiar with the process of mounting a Broadway show.

I have seen her on every tour since 95 and CV was her best performance of them all sorry you missed that one.

I'm not. But thanks.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by sparky

I am familiar with the process of mounting a Broadway show.



I'm not. But thanks.

Sparky!!!

[wolfontherun]

Originally Posted by sparky

I am familiar with the process of mounting a Broadway show.



I'm not. But thanks.

You did not sound like you were hence my pointing it out to you.

Oh and you should be she was fabulous on CV sounded clear as a bell on many songs, she wa on fire, even Dreams sounded fresh and exciting again. Her enthusiasm was infectious.

[starshine]

Originally Posted by sparky

Scoop, I have no idea who you are and have had no interaction with you. But from this post alone, I will disagree with the many and deem you authentic and not a troll.

As if you give two rips what I think.



I've seen too many phoned in performances to think that your reaction is merely naysaying and dissing just to diss.
I get the impression that you really are a lifelong fan and you are going through the kind of thing I went through many many years ago.

I skipped the CV tour. And the Gold Dust tour, I think. I dunno. I can't remember anymore. I have seen so many shows it is very difficult to keep track anymore. I know there were a few shows I could have just drove 15 minutes to the Greek, got my comps and parking, gone backstage and done it all free. I couldn't be bothered.

But let me say this - I don't disbelieve a word of what you say.

SO many people are so enamored of Stevie (and her bank account thanks you for it) that she simply needs to show up and be alive for them to be thrilled. The expectations
are bottom of the barrel. I have been there. Just simply seeing her in person can be such a thrill, and such a fulfillment of a fantasy that all objectivity flies straight out the window.

Add to this the idea that she is this odd vessel that people project their own weaknesses and neuroses onto and you have an odd situation. People almost WANT her to be weak
and fragile. It fulfills some bizarre fantasy they have about her and themselves. "It's just nerves! It's only the first show! She must have had a bad day!"

It is a million and one excuses to make her seem more human and flawed in order to make her seem down to earth.

The fact is that she is, or should be, a professional. First and foremost. They had weeks of rehearsal. They should have a top notch sound and light crew. There is NO excuse for that monitor drama. No expense is spared, and they are asking for a king's ransom for each evening they perform. The ticket prices you people are paying reflect
that.

So should the audience expect perfection?

YES. Damn near, the audience should.

From people who have been doing this for a living for 40 years? Damn right they should expect perfect. Try flubbing **** and blowing lyrics and sleepwalking through a Broadway opening. 10 million gone. Show closed. Rock and Roll my ass. People expect professionals to be professionals. God knows my ass would be fired if my set sucked on the first shoot day.

Would Tina Turner's audience balk at her screwing up her dancing during Nutbush? Almost falling off as she scuttled across a scaffolding a few feet wide above the audience with no net?

Of course they would.

Would Madonna's audience howl and blog in horror if her dancing and interaction with her props and scenery looked clunky on the first night? Would they screech and hoot in disgust and call her a hack when they paid a fortune for a flawless performance?

You're damned right they would and with good reason.

They paid top dollar and expect a well rehearsed and professional show. No matter the fact that a mere human being is doing the performing. You demand over a hundred bucks for the privilege of watching you perform and you better damned well deliver.

For some incredibly screwed up reason, a lot of people love for Stevie to be weak. They sympathize, they love her for being nervous. They project their own shortcomings on her - being sick, being tired, being fat, you name it.
It humanizes her, but it also gives her carte blanche to turn in blase performances. Which she has done on and off for her entire career for various and sundry reasons.

Don't get me wrong. I have seen her be brilliant. And I ate it up and counted myself lucky. And I have seen her be dismal. Utterly dismal and unprofessional even in the past few years when purportedly sober.

There are lots of young fans here and even older ones who are still mesmerized by her every move. Of course her every gesture enthralls them. They are under the spell of her persona, which is still considerable. If I had a few bucks for every friend I drug to a show that intoxicated me and my guest said, "That's it?"



Love's a state of mind, indeed.

So, I don't fork over money anymore. I would rather remember the glory shows I have seen. I'm interested in
emotional involvement and full commitment in shows and performers.
Homegirl is just pulling a retirement paycheck these days and god bless her that she can. I hope she makes a few million on this tour, gets a kick ass face job from Catherine Deneuve's surgeon, gets truly inspired again, and does one more album.

Odds are highly against it but it would be a sweet coda to an uneven but fascinating career.

For now I've made my contribution to her bank account. Ten times over. I'm happy to watch the videos.

Thank you for your honest posts.

God knows people have chafed at mine over the years.

As for the performances...

Good god, Storms isn't supposed to be barked.

It ought to be whispered.

Points for effort, regardless.

Don't Stop made my teeth hurt. WTF with that hamhanded
piano from Tuggle?

And Rosie deserves a years late Emmy for her Stevie spinning impersonation on Arsenio Hall years ago.

The Stand Back spins from 3/1/09 confirmed her prophecy.

Slo Mo. Bored. Utterly disengaged.

Great post Sparky.....I'd agree with alot of it about Stevie....having been a fan myself some 20 yrs plus.....I've seen her solo 6 times & 3 times with Mac.....I don't like the phoned in performances either....personally the last 2 times I saw her for CV (07 &08)....she did all the right moves for every song etc....but it all seemed so staged and emotionless for me. Than her comments last yr about fans stealing her music really got to me...& this was before I was to see her last yr.....It all has left a bad taste in my mouth so to speak. I wasn't excited about seeing her than....& well I'm not seeing them this tour or if Stevie solo's again either. The set list things bothers me as well as the high ticket prices. I also have contributed to her bank acct (as well as Mac members) so.....I've decided to stop going. I can see things here etc. The live concert show lacks to me anymore. Esp when performers don't really want to be there on stage ......I have no more illusions about Stevie anymore or Mac.....All things should be set for this tour & for major issues to occur isn't right to all that have paid the high prices for it. Personally, why should Stevie have any nerves....how long has she been performing???? Really.....I can see the moment she walks out on stage but it should be gone than.....it's like she has done this most 'all' of ther life. No excuses here. Yes performers have off nights but opening night?? Interesting......I'm sure it will get better .....I do hope so for all that are going.....but from what I've seen on Youtube.....it doesn't look like I'm missing alot......but do enjoy yourselfs and I will enjoy reading your posts. I agree that this board is for discussing all things Mac/Stevie and its good to agree to disagree no matter how many posts a person has. The opinion is what matters......I have no rose colored glass in regards to Stevie or Fmac......no long nets of white cloud my memory......Its all good and it is what it is..........