Stevie was awful tonight *spoilers*

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by Regina

Oh, please.
Hang it up at 60? Age-ist nonsence.
Remember what you're saying when someone tells YOU to hang it up when you're 60, because I gotta say, having passed 40 myself (and then some), I feel no different than I did when I was 20 or 30 and I don't think that changes when you're 60. Probably a few more aches and pains but no one is ready for The Home yet.
And I just saw Stevie this summer. So, she didn't change that much in 8 months. FM-jitters? Maybe. Or maybe people just looking to hang the woman out to dry. John looks bored at every performance. You're telling him to hang it up, too?
And, if you find her tired or boring or unable to perform, stay home. Simple as that. Stop "feeding the machine," to use Lindsey's term.

I'm not ageist at all, and I'm gay... so her sexiness appeal has ALWAYS been a non-issue to me . But shouldn't ANYONE who no longer performs up to par consider retirement, or a change of careers? I'm talking about everyone from stock traders to janitors folks. ALL you people need to stop throwing names at each other and totally ripping someone apart because they don't worship the ground FM walks on. They're just humans, like you, I, and everyone else here are humans. They eat, breathe, fart, sh!t, etc just like the rest of us . And for what it's worth, I don't have tix for this tour, and don't know if I can justify the price now more than ever, after hearing these clips being posted online. I want to remember the band at it's best... not this.

Let's all keep in mind this is a DISCUSSION BOARD too... differing opinions keep it interesting. We all can't worship absolutely everything these people do. We're all going to have things we don't like. And for what it's worth, I do agree Stevie has sounded good on her recent solo tours (better than she has since perhaps the mid 80s). Her heart just doesn't seem to be with the Mac since Christine has left, which impacts everything from her energy level, to her voice. And THAT'S why I feel she should pack it up, and close that door.

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

I don't have tix for this tour,

The ones that are not going to a show are always the ones that say they suck and the ones that are attending a show are always the ones that say that Stevie (and the Mac) are great It's just the way it is

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

The ones that are not going to a show are always the ones that say they suck and the ones that are attending a show are always the ones that say that Stevie (and the Mac) are great It's just the way it is

Please don't roll your eyes at me, I'm not rolling mine at you. I'm being perfectly civil folks and am trying to have an intelligent debate. The thing is, you can't accuse me of NOT seeing the Mac... I saw them 3 times on the Say You Will tour. I've seen Stevie twice since then. Girlfriend is just losing her voice and stamina, there's just no getting around it. She looks fantastic, there's no denying that either. I'll give her props for that for sure! But her voice is just so lacking. Y'all can't tell me you don't cringe when you listen to the line in Storms where she sings:

"did I ever really care that much"

It's just terrible... nails on chalkboard. She's so off pitch it's not funny. Much of the rest of the song is great, but the notes she hits inadvertently hits these days... ouch. Same with the posted version of Stand Back... blech. Trust me y'all... I do love the Mac and Stevie, I really, really do. But I also know when I can call them on their fumbles. People call me on my fumbles at work... so I should be able to call the Mac on their fumbles at work. Performing is just as much their job as working in a bank is mine. Essentially we're all their employers, since we pay for their G4 rental. So we CAN constructively criticize them!

[StandbackStevie]

we all make mistakes at times and especially the opening night im sure stevie is always nervous at opening night on all the tours especially on the songs she has not done live before like storms i hope it will stay in the set on the whole tour you some times they change songs or drop i hope they dont drop actually from last night this tour is a bit shorter than say you will i think with the song list. but i am there to have a good time no matter what i enjoy stevie and the the rest of the mac i am not looking at how perfect the show its the idea of them being together and playing the music we love. Not saying how a perfection show is or how an inperfect show is either it will all be good to me no matter how they sound. but face it in recent interviews with stevie about the Say You Will making of the cd and tour was not a happy thing for her she admits that there is still some friction still between her and lindsey during the recording process and touring together so it too really wouldnt surprise me if they dont record another cd together i love say you will cd and the tour went to like 4 shows on that tour and loved every show and was even at the taped soundstage in boston as well the private show. So enjoy the moment cause this tour could be there last together i hope not but it could be.

[skuncles]

Just based on the YouTube videos from last night it appears that Stevie wasn't firing on all cylinders. I chalk it up to either an off night or she doesn't feel well. This isn't her first show in three or four years, it's her first show in like six months and she was in fine form then. So I have a feeling that she just isn't feeling 100%. That's all it looks like to me. Her stage show hasn't looked like her 1980's shows since the 1980's!! All I can say is if you're going expecting to see the Stevie from the Mirage video then you're in for a shock. I think that's the preception most people have and are surprised that the Stevie onstage isn't the same Stevie in that video.

[MoonWaterPoet]

Originally Posted by skuncles

Just based on the YouTube videos from last night it appears that Stevie wasn't firing on all cylinders. I chalk it up to either an off night or she doesn't feel well. This isn't her first show in three or four years, it's her first show in like six months and she was in fine form then. So I have a feeling that she just isn't feeling 100%. That's all it looks like to me. Her stage show hasn't looked like her 1980's shows since the 1980's!! All I can say is if you're going expecting to see the Stevie from the Mirage video then you're in for a shock. I think that's the preception most people have and are surprised that the Stevie onstage isn't the same Stevie in that video.

I agree... And not to mention, "Opening Night Jitters"... when you know every 'fly-on-the-wall'... will be judging and critizing you... and she has not toured with (Lindsey) Fleetwood Mac ~ in 4 years...

Donnie Wayne ~

[Mywyldhrt]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Please don't roll your eyes at me, I'm not rolling mine at you. I'm being perfectly civil folks and am trying to have an intelligent debate. The thing is, you can't accuse me of NOT seeing the Mac... I saw them 3 times on the Say You Will tour. I've seen Stevie twice since then. Girlfriend is just losing her voice and stamina, there's just no getting around it. She looks fantastic, there's no denying that either. I'll give her props for that for sure! But her voice is just so lacking. Y'all can't tell me you don't cringe when you listen to the line in Storms where she sings:
"did I ever really care that much"

It's just terrible... nails on chalkboard. She's so off pitch it's not funny. Much of the rest of the song is great, but the notes she hits inadvertently hits these days... ouch. Same with the posted version of Stand Back... blech. Trust me y'all... I do love the Mac and Stevie, I really, really do. But I also know when I can call them on their fumbles. People call me on my fumbles at work... so I should be able to call the Mac on their fumbles at work. Performing is just as much their job as working in a bank is mine. Essentially we're all their employers, since we pay for their G4 rental. So we CAN constructively criticize them!

and this is supposed impress who???? Btw- 1st time I saw them was 1979-sit down and shut up. lol

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Mywyldhrt

and this is supposed impress who???? Btw- 1st time I saw them was 1979-sit down and shut up. lol

Seems to me that he was simply stating that he formed his opinion based on the fact that he's seen them live several times recently, and that he's not talking out his ass. Don't think he was trying to impress anyone - who are you trying to impress with your announcement that you saw them in '79?

[BTFLCHLD]

TWIRLS!

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

TWIRLS!

No that's Twirling with a capital "T." "thumbsup:

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

TWIRLS!

You know... The depth of that stage isn't great... Doesn't leave Stevie much room to fly!

[SandyMac]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

TWIRLS!

"This is serious" kick ass twirling so far this tour.
(could she be twirling faster because of the tan/beige boots? Didn't she have on the black ones before with the really high heels)?

And yeah, that stage is not very deep, good observation there. I agree, the space up there is cramped but she managed to fly without hitting anyone or get tangled in her mic stand. It almost looks like she could slap John though with that wing span. LOL. That video clip is FANTASTIC and renews my faith in our gal.

[BellaDonna93]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

TWIRLS!

I'm so glad to see that the "twirling part" is back!! It was, as it's been said, too slow the forst night but it was probably just because of the high heels she worn Stevie is here to wear the boots, hehe! She rocks!!!!

[Mywyldhrt]

Originally Posted by skcin

Seems to me that he was simply stating that he formed his opinion based on the fact that he's seen them live several times recently, and that he's not talking out his ass. Don't think he was trying to impress anyone - who are you trying to impress with your announcement that you saw them in '79?

Apparently...absolutley, no one......

[Zombie]