Any ledgies from the 97-2000 era left?

[fleetwoodtrick]

Originally Posted by David

I started that all. It wasn't that big of a deal. There've been 10,000 big fights here since the beginning up to just a few months ago, & the other fan gathering holes have thousands of fights, too.

Hi, Rhiya!

Tsk, tsk now. LOL, take no offense to that. I'm really just pretending I know what I'm talking about.

:P I don't think 10,000+ posts is new. I've talked to you before, silly! But... Hi David!!!

[BigAl84]

this is on a side note....from things way back in the day
I also remember Maureen Loftus(sp?) and James from Yonkers NY (can't remember the last name) who I believe had the master tapes for the nashville 77 and "day on the green '77" (actually kansas city right?) soundboard tapes and released them on CD (25.00 or 35.00 for their CDR with artwork at the time)

I just remember maureen had this huge as list and charged like 15.00, if not more for a 2 CASSETTE recording!!! lol. She would post these huge press release type posts on usernet advertising the upcoming release of Nashville 77, Baton Rouge 78, and the Mirage outtakes. All of which always had pristine crystal clear sound...Ha Ha HA.

Maureen and James always seemed to work together but I don't remember if they were related. I would imagine they made a good chunk of change off of that circle of fans for a few years. They were a little shady.

Plus to add to the "mystique" of bootleg fandom...there were rumours that complete unheard soundboard tapes for more tusk and rumours shows existed in their hands, including those that were hauled off to australia by some guy who refused to share them (dave you would know his name)...
I suppose we will never know exactly what they actually had but never shared. I think a lot of it was BS...but I think the australia source was legit. David would know the full scoop and its probably already been hashed over a million times by now.

I still wonder what in the heck happened to them...they both vanished sometime around 2001 or after.

I think the last time I ever saw any evidence of them dates back to early 2001 before TISL was finished or released, around the time of the dallas austin sessions. One of them bragged to me about having the complete album in their hands as an early release and hinted to all these BS track titles.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

this is on a side note....from things way back in the day
I also remember Maureen Loftus(sp?) and James from Yonkers NY (can't remember the last name) who I believe had the master tapes for the nashville 77 and "day on the green '77" (actually kansas city right?) soundboard tapes and released them on CD (25.00 or 35.00 for their CDR with artwork at the time)

I just remember maureen had this huge as list and charged like 15.00, if not more for a 2 CASSETTE recording!!! lol. She would post these huge press release type posts on usernet advertising the upcoming release of Nashville 77, Baton Rouge 78, and the Mirage outtakes. All of which always had pristine crystal clear sound...Ha Ha HA.

Maureen and James always seemed to work together but I don't remember if they were related. I would imagine they made a good chunk of change off of that circle of fans for a few years. They were a little shady.

Plus to add to the "mystique" of bootleg fandom...there were rumours that complete unheard soundboard tapes for more tusk and rumours shows existed in their hands, including those that were hauled off to australia by some guy who refused to share them (dave you would know his name)...
I suppose we will never know exactly what they actually had but never shared. I think a lot of it was BS...but I think the australia source was legit. David would know the full scoop and its probably already been hashed over a million times by now.

I still wonder what in the heck happened to them...they both vanished sometime around 2001 or after.

I think the last time I ever saw any evidence of them dates back to early 2001 before TISL was finished or released, around the time of the dallas austin sessions. One of them bragged to me about having the complete album in their hands as an early release and hinted to all these BS track titles.

You want to hear a story about Nashville, and those other soundboards? I know alot of you know who Frank Harding is. He's the Australia guy youre talking about. Well, in the late 90's he lived here in the Minneapolis area for about 4 years. My friend and I got to know him through an an in goldmine and we became fairly good friends. One day when I went over Frank's and he gave my 2 big boxes of tapes. THey were a mix of a bunch of stuff, but what he told me was that there were a bunch of Fleetwood Mac soundboards that Mick had given him from his personal collection. Frank asked if I would mind organizing the tapes. I said sure. He told me I was welcome to make copies of anything I wanted as long as Promised not to sell them for at least 2 years, which I kept. So I made my copies, gave the organized boxes back to Frank, who then eventually provided them to Maureen. But I was the first to have them before enyone else.

[Miragex69x]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

this is on a side note....from things way back in the day
I also remember Maureen Loftus(sp?) and James from Yonkers NY (can't remember the last name) who I believe had the master tapes for the nashville 77 and "day on the green '77" (actually kansas city right?) soundboard tapes and released them on CD (25.00 or 35.00 for their CDR with artwork at the time)

I just remember maureen had this huge as list and charged like 15.00, if not more for a 2 CASSETTE recording!!! lol. She would post these huge press release type posts on usernet advertising the upcoming release of Nashville 77, Baton Rouge 78, and the Mirage outtakes. All of which always had pristine crystal clear sound...Ha Ha HA.

Maureen and James always seemed to work together but I don't remember if they were related. I would imagine they made a good chunk of change off of that circle of fans for a few years. They were a little shady.

Plus to add to the "mystique" of bootleg fandom...there were rumours that complete unheard soundboard tapes for more tusk and rumours shows existed in their hands, including those that were hauled off to australia by some guy who refused to share them (dave you would know his name)...
I suppose we will never know exactly what they actually had but never shared. I think a lot of it was BS...but I think the australia source was legit. David would know the full scoop and its probably already been hashed over a million times by now.

I still wonder what in the heck happened to them...they both vanished sometime around 2001 or after.

I think the last time I ever saw any evidence of them dates back to early 2001 before TISL was finished or released, around the time of the dallas austin sessions. One of them bragged to me about having the complete album in their hands as an early release and hinted to all these BS track titles.

Hello everyone. I am back now, and also have been on the boards since the mid 90s!

BOY have the times changed! Anywho I remember that sh*tasss James from Yonkers. What a slimy sleezeball. He posted all over, I think those aol boards too always selling anything and everything. I remember he was front row for Stevie's Jones Beach Enchanted 98 show. He was lucky enough that Stevie's what bass player I think, randomly asked him his name and he had Landslide dedicated. He started bragging about it on the boards, then everyone complained "If Stevie only knew what you really did with her music".

I am glad the times have changed, and he no longer has outlets to make money off of bootlegs. He never got a dime from me!

All of you young kids lol are lucky today. You turn your computer on and waaa laaa within a second you have every Stevie/Fmac video or anything they ever did all over youtube. We did not have any of that in the 90s. The only thing we kind of did have on the net was a website called TheQueenOfRock.com or something. They had most of the Stevie basic MTV videos up. But with slow connection speeds, there was no high speed internet back then, it could take an hour or more to download one video to watch.

I remember even before the internet. The only way to get rare videos, was to order bootleg catalogs from the back of the classified section in Rolling Stone Magazine, or go to some trade show. I went on a huge video store search all around town and found copies of the Mirage and Tusk shows. After renting them, I could not make copies with my vcr's because the tapes had some magentic strip or some crap that kept making the new copies dark. So I begged and begged the video store manager and they sold me the videos. This was before ebay, and the tapes had been out of print since the 80s. I felt like I had a goldmine in my hands at the time .

As it has been stated already, there were no instant demo mp3's you just click and throw into your Ipod back then, like there is now. In the old days, you made friends on the net and set up snail mail trades. I would go buy blank cassette tapes, and use my old boom box to make copies of shows/demos and mail them out lol. Then, within a week I would go to the damn mailbox everyday with my hopes UP! Finally the day comes where you get that package in the mail and you get all excited with the treasures you would get!

I also enjoyed the excitement you got when you emailed Ginny Karmano before she went crazy. For those of you who do not know her she answered all of Stevie's fan mail in the 80s. By the mid 90s she had a website and you could email her Stevie questions. Sometimes, she would get back to you. I will never forgot the excitement that overtook my body when I would get a Stevie reply from her! I felt like an insider lol, at such a young age.

[BigAl84]

I remember the queen of rock site! That was the best site for video and interview clips in the pre-youtube, pre-high speed internet days! I think that site has been closed since 2000 or maybe 2001. It actually had some cool clips that are a little bit harder to find on youtube...especially the australian radio program that played the tusk album and interviewed the band the whole time as well.

I remember, I was all of 13 or 14 and my parents had a 28kb dial up modem. It would take forever for that five minute video or audio clip to buffer on realplayer! Ahh those were the days!!!!!

It's kind of sad, the amount of big resourceful sites that have gone by the wayside. Sararhiannon.com had the largest photo archive and I don't believe anyone else has had the same archive to this day. Today you would be forever tracking down half the photos she had on that site, not to mention the massive trade list and demo lyrics. Since most of the trading sites kind of went away with the onset of high speed, it's hard to grasp a sense of what has been taped and what hasn't or what's available and what's not! Especially with the newer fleetwood mac tours etc.

Tracy at Burnish.net is sadly missed as well!! Add stevienicks-info on the list too!

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

not to mention the massive trade list and demo lyrics. Since most of the trading sites kind of went away with the onset of high speed, it's hard to grasp a sense of what has been taped and what hasn't or what's available and what's not! Especially with the newer fleetwood mac tours etc.

not that many of us traders still around, with the increase in torrent sharing trading tapes/cd's has become less popular than it once was.

I've tried to keep track on what has been in circulation the past few tours (ie - Stevie & Linds' solo tours and the SYW tour 2003-2004), but it does get time consuming after awhile - but I will be at it again come March.


RIP Vianna, you are truly missed! I remember PM conversations with her when Debbie was battling cancer in late 2003/early 2004 - Her words of wisdom helped me out during that time.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Tracy at Burnish.net is sadly missed as well!! Add stevienicks-info on the list too!

I used to lurk on that site as well and really enjoyed it. From what I recall there was a lot of drama on the message board (I know, right?) and one day she just said, literally, "I've had enough" and it ended. I would check months later to see if she had opened the boards back up yet, but it never happened and then I think the site eventually disappeared for good.

Brad

[sodascouts]

I used to lurk on [Burnish.net] as well and really enjoyed it. From what I recall there was a lot of drama on the message board (I know, right?) and one day she just said, literally, "I've had enough" and it ended. I would check months later to see if she had opened the boards back up yet, but it never happened and then I think the site eventually disappeared for good.

I remember that. After the message board drama, she posted "I need a vacation" and never updated again, then eventually let the entire website go.

[David]

Originally Posted by fleetwoodtrick

Tsk, tsk now. LOL, take no offense to that. I'm really just pretending I know what I'm talking about.

:P I don't think 10,000+ posts is new. I've talked to you before, silly! But... Hi David!!!

Rhiya, you know what they say ... What's the most fun you can have with your boots on?


THE LEDGE!!

[fleetwoodtrick]

Originally Posted by David

Rhiya, you know what they say ... What's the most fun you can have with your boots on?


THE LEDGE!!

That's so very true! How did I never think of that!?

David: 1
Rhiya: 0

I'll catch you yet...