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Old 01-30-2009, 01:34 PM
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Well, so much for not knowing the setlist. Dang!

OH, and just so I understand...when did Storms become a hit? I mean, I know Tusk was a long time ago, but...

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And as much as I would love to hear Storms, you're right. Not a "hit." Not that I only want to hear "hits," so it will be a nice surprise if it actually happens.

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I thought of this, too. Remember Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden on the last tour. If memory serves me, they were dropped after the first show. But I'm REALLY hoping this won't be the case this time around
Destiny Rules made it a few shows I think. Not many.

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Both "Peacekeeper" & the title cut got fairly significant airplay, so I'm not counting out "anything off of SYW". "The Chain" has been used as the theme for a couple of TV shows, AND it's basically the unofficial theme song of Fleetwood Mac. "Tusk", "Sara" (along with "Think About Me" & "Sisters Of The Moon") were the singles from the Tusk album. I believe "Storms" was a B-side of one of them, but I'm not 100% sure. "I'm So Afraid" & "Gold Dust Woman" WERE single B-sides, so if the single was a "hit", people would be MORE than familiar with the B-side as well. With "Silver Springs" being an obvious case-in-point. For the first couple of months after the GYOW single was released, "Silver Springs" got nearly equal airplay. It disappeared off the airwaves once Rumours was released, and fell into near obscurity until the Timespace controversy and then bloomed again for The Dance.



I hope somebody in the band has the good sense to not play "Second Hand News" & "Monday Morning" back-to-back.
I truly believe they could play almost anything off Rumours & casual fans will at least be familiar with it - enough to dance & possibly sing along to & not get up and leave to pee. Possible exception being IDWK. So it woul;dn't have to be a single or a song that charted - The Chain is very commonly known, like you said. It does beg the question of just WTF they are doing calling this a "hits" tour - what defines a hit vs. a signature song vs. a deep cut? It's all very subjective. But to say fans won't have to sit through songs they won't recognize & then claim they'll do Storms? Hmmm.....

ITA about MM & SHN. They're too similar to my ears. As much as I enjoy both tunes, they're practically interchangeable in a set. I feel they shuold do 1 or the other, but not both - and definitely NOT back to back.

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Old 01-30-2009, 04:16 PM
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It does beg the question of just WTF they are doing calling this a "hits" tour - what defines a hit vs. a signature song vs. a deep cut?
It's the Hits 'n' Staples Tour. It doesn't have to have been on a Billboard chart -- if the band's been playing it live for thirty years, they're going to play it again! The idea of the tour (if you can call it an idea) is to play stuff that people recognize. Stevie doesn't want to play stuff that's on a new album. That's all they mean by "hits." We're being too literal-minded.

The other thing I wanted to say: How would you guys feel if they played "Sister Golden Hair" instead of "Sister of the Moon"?

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I said they should call it, "You may remember this one," Tour... So many people that I have talked with think it will be a lot like the Dance Tour
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:05 PM
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I was at MSG for a different show last night and they had these little magazines on all the seats. The FM mention in that magazine was definitely using the word "classic" and not the word "hit".
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I'm very excited by the inclusion of Storms - that's if it actually makes it out of rehearsal - but I can't believe people want to hear World Turning, Oh Well, Go Insane and Stand Back.
World Turning has always been boring and is stretched out to interminable length in concert, "climaxing" in Mick's tossing-off session. Such a dull song on record and even more mind-numbing live. Bury it.
Oh Well belongs to another incarnation of the band and should remain there. If they really feel the need to resurrect a classic from that early period, why not go for something truly wonderful like Love The Burns, Man Of The World (with a Stevie lead vocal!) or I Loved Another Woman?
As for Go Insane and Stand Back, these are not Mac songs/hits. No matter how much anyone might enjoy these songs, they are inappropriate at a Mac show - particularly at the exclusion of genuine Mac hits/classics like Angel, Sisters Of The Moon, Hold Me and Seven Wonders. (If Lindsey really feels the need to perform one of his solo "hits" at a Mac show, then surely Trouble would be the better choice - this always sounded more Fleetwood Mac than solo to these ears.)
I'm really counting on a full band version of Big Love and Stevie taking the lead on Oh Daddy - if these occur, along with Storms, it really could be a classic show.
PS If I had my way, I'd drop all the old warhorses (Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, Don't Stop etc) but I realise this would be unrealistic. What I would like to see is for the songs to be played at similar length to their original studio versions - I don't need to hear a three minute intro to Go Your Own Way or a five minute outro on I'm So Afraid - boring old bastards.
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World Turning has always been boring and is stretched out to interminable length in concert, "climaxing" in Mick's tossing-off session.
It's been boring only since 1987. From 1980 & earlier, it was hot. You got to hear the actual members of Fleetwood Mac playing their instruments in a really pumping way. They pumped, man, they pumped.

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Oh Well belongs to another incarnation of the band and should remain there. If they really feel the need to resurrect a classic from that early period, why not go for something truly wonderful like Love The Burns, Man Of The World (with a Stevie lead vocal!) or I Loved Another Woman?
I'd like to hear "Before the Beginning," my favorite.

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Imagine this: I love the set list and I am totally psyched about world turning!!! It is one of my favorites live, and I prefer the newer performances.
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The most outlandish thing they're playing is Go Insane with the full band and that is neither a Fleetwood Mac song nor the first time it has been played with that arrangement. It worked fine on Lindsey's solo tour but adding the "Fleetwood Mac orchestra" to it can only make it too cluttered. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong but since they're going to drop it after a night or two it hardly matters.
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The most outlandish thing they're playing is Go Insane with the full band and that is neither a Fleetwood Mac song nor the first time it has been played with that arrangement. It worked fine on Lindsey's solo tour but adding the "Fleetwood Mac orchestra" to it can only make it too cluttered. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong but since they're going to drop it after a night or two it hardly matters.
Since it did go over well solo and people know the song already from The Dance, I don't think it will be dropped. Storms? Yes. That could fall like a load of bricks.

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Since it did go over well solo and people know the song already from The Dance, I don't think it will be dropped. Storms? Yes. That could fall like a load of bricks.

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The other thing I wanted to say: How would you guys feel if they played "Sister Golden Hair" instead of "Sister of the Moon"?
I'd laugh my ass off with that!

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I said they should call it, "You may remember this one," Tour... So many people that I have talked with think it will be a lot like the Dance Tour
They should call it the We're In It For The Money Tour (though I think some band already did that). Actually, The Dance is why this tour is a harder sell for the band with a lot of longtime fans. Been there, done that.
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Well if World Turning must be played, why not edit it down to the length of the studio version? For those who enjoy it, it would be concise and tight but for those who can't stomach it, it would be over in a few minutes.
If they could finally surrender the guitar and drum solos, maybe there would be room for the likes of Think About Me, Angel, The Farmer's Daughter and Seven Wonders? Just a thought...
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