R's Using the Law to Force "Religion" Down Peoples' Throats AGAIN

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Again, you post was mostly personal attacks. Maybe cite something that says that Europeans do well on math tests or something to support your position?

The Pravda quote was not just one occasion, but was illustrative of something that they routinely do. It was the one occasion that I could think of off the top of my head that was plainly a lie that REALLY stuck with me as truly ridiculous. I mean, who doesn't know that Putin controls the press in Russia anymore? It is nothing more than government spin. They have no compunction about reporting lies. I used to read the dispatches sent by a guy in another group from the foreign press, but they reports usually bore no resemblance to what was actually going on here. They were full of anti-American bias and slant, yet, you call me xenophobic?! Europeans tend to be the most hostile to Americans, snobbish, and condescending people. Try going somewhere in Paris as an American without running into someone being rude because you are American. Me xenophobic? Whatever?!

I already showed to you that the "survey" you love to cite as proof was incredibly lightweight. Where are your stats and figures to prove that Europeans are stupid? Again you didn't address why you would be more qualified to speak about another country's health system over someone who actually lives there, which was the original point. But you know, keep deflecting if you must.

Btw here's your maths stats from a US newspaper no less http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120400730.html
Please note a European country, Finland, came top.


And yes, the Russian press and the UK press, for instance, are exactly the same thing

And if this is your attitude towards European people than no wonder people in Paris didn't welcome you with open arms. I'm sure there are plenty of American people here who have had positive experiences in Paris (which is just one city in the whole of Europe). I bet Strand, who is well travelled, would back me up here. I wouldn't dismiss the whole of the US just because of one bad experience but that's just me (and I've been to the US many times). Obviously you want to think badly of people outside of the US.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

. . . I bet Strand, who is well travelled, would back me up here. I wouldn't dismiss the whole of the US just because of one bad experience but that's just me (and I've been to the US many times). Obviously you want to think badly of people outside of the US.

I was there about three weeks ago and had a great time.

I was also in London, Bilbao, La Coruna, Lisbon, Seville, and Barcelona. Everyone I encountered was friendly in all those places. In my opinion and based on my experience (which includes four of the five continents) - you have to be open minded and willing to try to fit in if you want to be accepted. If you are unwilling to do that or show up with some "America is the greatest country in the whole world and/or I have more money than you" attitude, etc., then of course you will be treated poorly anywhere. But that does not mean the people treating you poorly are jerks at heart as a matter of fact. It actually means you are a jerk. But, I am sure there are actual jerks everywhere though, but that does not mean everyone is a jerk

Note - I am not saying anyone here is a jerk. I am speaking in general terms based on my experience.

Of course, when I was in London drunk out of my mind on Old Compton St. and started yelling "YOU'D ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WEREN'T FOR ME!!!!!!!!!" -- I wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Of course, when I was in London drunk out of my mind on Old Compton St. and started yelling "YOU'D ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WEREN'T FOR ME!!!!!!!!!" -- I wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms

But you spoke the truth, Strand. Do you still have your teeth?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

But you spoke the truth, Strand. Do you still have your teeth?

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I so wish I could have seen that

Not even I am that brave Actually, the fun part was the bar hopping, the subsequent 20 Euro McDonald's food orgy, and then the bicycle ricksaw ride home at like 2 A.M. during which I was belting who the hell knows how many showtunes and Stevie tunes on the way from Soho to Notting Hill. That I was not arrested and/or beaten to within an inch of my life in Mayfair alone is repayment for whatever part America played in WWII

[rubytuesday]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Not even I am that brave Actually, the fun part was the bar hopping, the subsequent 20 Euro McDonald's food orgy

Bar hopping! Go to edinburgh? Rose Street is the ultimate. If your gonna get pissed go its worth travelling the world for rose street.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by rubytuesday

Bar hopping! Go to edinburgh? Rose Street is the ultimate. If your gonna get pissed go its worth travelling the world for rose street.

It is on my list! Actually, I plan in the next year or two to fly ro Edinburgh and drive all over Scotland Wales and England. I did that once before, but flew into London and drove to Stonehenge, Bath, Cardiff, Stratford on Avon, Chipping Campden and the Cotswolds, Windsor, and then returned to London. It was a fabulous time!

I also need to make it to Melbourne before my friend who is living there leaves. Sadly, it may not happen, but I'll get Down Under one of these days!

[rubytuesday]

Scotland and Australia! Best places on earth.! Also the best places to get pissed in. I've been in melbourne for a few years now - love it!

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Of course, when I was in London drunk out of my mind on Old Compton St. and started yelling "YOU'D ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WEREN'T FOR ME!!!!!!!!!" -- I wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms

I so wish I could have seen that

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Of course, when I was in London drunk out of my mind on Old Compton St. and started yelling "YOU'D ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WEREN'T FOR ME!!!!!!!!!" -- I wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms

So sorry I missed that.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I was there about three weeks ago and had a great time.

I was also in London, Bilbao, La Coruna, Lisbon, Seville, and Barcelona. Everyone I encountered was friendly in all those places. In my opinion and based on my experience (which includes four of the five continents) - you have to be open minded and willing to try to fit in if you want to be accepted. If you are unwilling to do that or show up with some "America is the greatest country in the whole world and/or I have more money than you" attitude, etc., then of course you will be treated poorly anywhere. But that does not mean the people treating you poorly are jerks at heart as a matter of fact. It actually means you are a jerk. But, I am sure there are actual jerks everywhere though, but that does not mean everyone is a jerk

Note - I am not saying anyone here is a jerk. I am speaking in general terms based on my experience.

Of course, when I was in London drunk out of my mind on Old Compton St. and started yelling "YOU'D ALL BE SPEAKING GERMAN IF IT WEREN'T FOR ME!!!!!!!!!" -- I wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms

I'm talking more about the contempt you get if you don't speak french or aren't bilingual. But the last sentence is REALLY funny.

[rubytuesday]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

I'm talking more about the contempt you get if you don't speak french or aren't bilingual. But the last sentence is REALLY funny.

I can kind of understand it though. If someone walked up to you in America and started speaking french or german or whatever and expected you to be able to respond you'd find them arrogant. It's only us that expect other cultures to speak english even just by saying "do you speak english?". If you reverse that into another language in your country it would get a really strange response.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by rubytuesday

I can kind of understand it though. If someone walked up to you in America and started speaking french or german or whatever and expected you to be able to respond you'd find them arrogant. It's only us that expect other cultures to speak english even just by saying "do you speak english?". If you reverse that into another language in your country it would get a really strange response.

I wouldn't think they were arrogant, I would assume they didn't speak English and attempt to find someone who spoke French and gesture at them in such a way to let them know that I don't understand them.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

I already showed to you that the "survey" you love to cite as proof was incredibly lightweight. Where are your stats and figures to prove that Europeans are stupid? Again you didn't address why you would be more qualified to speak about another country's health system over someone who actually lives there, which was the original point. But you know, keep deflecting if you must.

Btw here's your maths stats from a US newspaper no less http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120400730.html
Please note a European country, Finland, came top.


And yes, the Russian press and the UK press, for instance, are exactly the same thing

And if this is your attitude towards European people than no wonder people in Paris didn't welcome you with open arms. I'm sure there are plenty of American people here who have had positive experiences in Paris (which is just one city in the whole of Europe). I bet Strand, who is well travelled, would back me up here. I wouldn't dismiss the whole of the US just because of one bad experience but that's just me (and I've been to the US many times). Obviously you want to think badly of people outside of the US.

Yay! I get an actual argument here. Those seem to be so few and far between here. And to you, my friend, I concede defeat.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Yay! I get an actual argument here. Those seem to be so few and far between here. And to you, my friend, I concede defeat.

I'm quoting this before you change your mind! Btw, I'm not a guy, just so you know.

[ajmccarrell]

Nope, you win. I'll say it a few times more, you win, you win, you win.

Naw, it isn't that hard, it's just that instead of calling me names, you actually addressed my argument. There's a first for everything!