R's Using the Law to Force "Religion" Down Peoples' Throats AGAIN

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I agree and have said as much..As creepy as he is in other ways I particularly don't see Cheney as hyper -religious they used the fundies for their own political gain..Palin is a true believer ,an evangelical cultist that would make one of her own daughters carry the baby if she were raped or knocked up by Track Palin.I have talked to self described" social liberals" out here that are planning to vote McCain/Palin for "fiscal " reasons..When I attempted to explain how crazy she is they did not diagree but shrugged it off..I just don't get it.

Probably because you come off as a foaming at the mouth hysteric at times. I don't mean any offense by that. No offense meant here either, but your communication style often is perceived as hostile and just short of violent; I picture you in a real life as one of those people with lots of liberal bumper stickers, with a perpetual scowl that cuts people off in traffic. I generally just shrug off any point you make also, as most of it comes from really fringy places and makes a good soundbyte but doesn't really stand up to further analysis. The places you repeat things from are the left wing equivalent of Alex Jones. If you'd tone it down and stop the personal attacks, I might listen to you. Crazy far right religious nuts like my mother get the same response, as both parties have fringies. You just happen to be a left-wing one. No offense or insult meant, but it would be a stretch to call you a moderate. Try a different approach and you might actually get me to listen too!

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Probably because you come off as a foaming at the mouth hysteric at times. I don't mean any offense by that. No offense meant here either, but your communication style often is perceived as hostile and just short of violent; I picture you in a real life as one of those people with lots of liberal bumper stickers, with a perpetual scowl that cuts people off in traffic. I generally just shrug off any point you make also, as most of it comes from really fringy places and makes a good soundbyte but doesn't really stand up to further analysis. The places you repeat things from are the left wing equivalent of Alex Jones. If you'd tone it down and stop the personal attacks, I might listen to you. Crazy far right religious nuts like my mother get the same response, as both parties have fringies. You just happen to be a left-wing one. No offense or insult meant, but it would be a stretch to call you a moderate. Try a different approach and you might actually get me to listen too!

Nah more of a laid back surfer type in real life here albeit a bit intimidating looking probably because I'm tall, have a shaved head and tats.I'd say you're handily as fringy as I am only at the other end of the spectrum ..I think being in the cult has really affected you adversely and as I have suggested you should look into some deprogramming and why bother couching obviously offensive remarks by stating 'no offense ..very lame..As far as me seeming to come off as hostile and almost violent in my communication style who is the one that was temporarily banned for a vile and twisted homophoic rant? pot. kettle .black.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Nah more of a laid back surfer type in real life here albeit a bit intimidating looking probably because I'm tall, have a shaved head and tats.I'd say you're handily as fringy as I am only at the other end of the spectrum ..I think being in the cult has really affected you adversely and as I have suggested you should look into some deprogramming and why bother couching obviously offensive remarks by stating 'no offense ..very lame..As far as me seeming to come off as hostile and almost violent in my communication style who is the one that was temporarily banned for a vile and twisted homophoic rant? pot. kettle .black.

Okay fine. I thought you were banned before too? I was saying "no offense" because I didn't want to get banned again, LOL! I knew full well what I was saying was going to be taken as offensive, I just couldn't think of any other way to say it, so I thought I should put a caveat out there. I did look at deprogramming, and did a full program, however I'm still a conservative. I am just not a conservative because I think "God demands it", I don't think that the antichrist is a democrat LOL, and I'm not hiding in a bunker waiting for raids by federal agents. I'm a conservative because that's the philosophy that I think would work the best and give everyone the most amount of rights and the largest share of the fruits of their own labor.

I think you misunderstood my rant. It wasn't to be offensive as much as it was to make accusations that weren't disprovable online. Many accusations at the time, such as making up relatives (that really do exist BTW) were not possible to prove or disprove online despite calls to do so. So, I made a series of accusations that I thought would upset the other person and make them stand in my shoes for a bit. I actually do have very good friends that are gay. I'm not homophobic at all.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Okay fine. I thought you were banned before too? I was saying "no offense" because I didn't want to get banned again, LOL! I knew full well what I was saying was going to be taken as offensive, I just couldn't think of any other way to say it, so I thought I should put a caveat out there. I did look at deprogramming, and did a full program, however I'm still a conservative. I am just not a conservative because I think "God demands it", I don't think that the antichrist is a democrat LOL, and I'm not hiding in a bunker waiting for raids by federal agents. I'm a conservative because that's the philosophy that I think would work the best and give everyone the most amount of rights and the largest share of the fruits of their own labor.

I think you misunderstood my rant. It wasn't to be offensive as much as it was to make accusations that weren't disprovable online. Many accusations at the time, such as making up relatives (that really do exist BTW) were not possible to prove or disprove online despite calls to do so. So, I made a series of accusations that I thought would upset the other person and make them stand in my shoes for a bit. I actually do have very good friends that are gay. I'm not homophobic at all.

Nope I havn't been banned yet although some really cool people have been .Good for you for looking into the deprogramming ..I would say the only thing I have ranted kind of aggressively about since you have been around here is Palin..I'll admit the thought of having her in the White House brings up some serious emotion for me .It is just so wrong in so many ways.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Nope I havn't been banned yet although some really cool people have been .Good for you for looking into the deprogramming ..I would say the only thing I have ranted kind of aggressively about since you have been around here is Palin..I'll admit the thought of having her in the White House brings up some serious emotion for me .It is just so wrong in so many ways.

Okay, let's strike a peace then. I will be nothing but respectful to you for the same in return. Cool? I won't post any more sarcastic smileys at you either. This one is real.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Okay, let's strike a peace then. I will be nothing but respectful to you for the same in return. Cool? I won't post any more sarcastic smileys at you either. This one is real.

Cool no problem although a little sarcasm or verbal sparring does not bother me .Really at no time in any of our interactions have I been upset with you .Consider the profession I work in. It takes a hell of a lot to tip me.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Cool no problem although a little sarcasm or verbal sparring does not bother me .Really at no time in any of our interactions have I been upset with you .Consider the profession I work in. It takes a hell of a lot to tip me.

My mom's dad used to work at Camarillo. He had a schizophrenic patient who was convinced that the government was after him and he used to walk the grounds picking up garbage, claiming it was "evidence" and he would give the bags of it to my grandfather. So, in typical Carl McCarrell humor, he started leaving notes for the guy with messages that he was being watched. He said the guy took a few days in isolation to calm down. Since you're also a mental health worker, I thought you might appreciate the humor there.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Nope I havn't been banned yet although some really cool people have been .

and some very intellects at that. Some also just grew bored with the constant agreements/disagreements and decided to leave (ie Dissention - Truly one of the cool ones). I wished MIA Ledgies would drop in every once in awhile though...Some are sorely missed.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

My mom's dad used to work at Camarillo. He had a schizophrenic patient who was convinced that the government was after him and he used to walk the grounds picking up garbage, claiming it was "evidence" and he would give the bags of it to my grandfather. So, in typical Carl McCarrell humor, he started leaving notes for the guy with messages that he was being watched. He said the guy took a few days in isolation to calm down. Since you're also a mental health worker, I thought you might appreciate the humor there.

Yeah I know some older guys most of them retired who would do things like that ..I currently work forensic psych which is the "criminally insane " so probably not such a good idea for that population.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Yeah I know some older guys most of them retired who would do things like that ..I currently work forensic psych which is the "criminally insane " so probably not such a good idea for that population.

Oh fun! I can't imagine what dealing with those people would be like. Do you have trouble sleeping after work?

I took some electives in deviant psychology and social psychology. I thought it might help out, since I was planning on taking the Certified Fraud Examiner's test at the time. It was fairly interesting. I love that whole field and love TV shows that involve it, like SVU especially. I did my final essay on Charlie Sheen. I figured why just study one form of deviancy when I can study a guy who has all of them?! That's about the extent of anything I know on the subject. I'd imagine you might have a very rotten view of humanity.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

and some very intellects at that. Some also just grew bored with the constant agreements/disagreements and decided to leave (ie Dissention - Truly one of the cool ones). I wished MIA Ledgies would drop in every once in awhile though...Some are sorely missed.

Oh yeah diss really kept things rocking around here ..those times were The Golden Age of the Ledge IMHO.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Oh fun! I can't imagine what dealing with those people would be like. Do you have trouble sleeping after work?

Nah I have the wonderful ability to stop thinking about it the minute I walk through the third locked gate out of the facility.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Oh yeah diss really kept things rocking around here ..those times were The Golden Age of the Ledge IMHO.

Diss had the same opinion as myself of the 'infamous' Stevie Nicks "master reel" seller and his online (Predatorial at that) practice of charging too much for a compact disc that may contain only up to 20 minutes of material.

That, and our opinions of another former member who would brag how they 'contributed so much to the SN/FM trade community' while at the same time SELLING compact discs that were FREELY traded to this person.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Diss had the same opinion as myself of the 'infamous' Stevie Nicks "master reel" seller and his online (Predatorial at that) practice of charging too much for a compact disc that may contain only up to 20 minutes of material.

That, and our opinions of another former member who would brag how they 'contributed so much to the SN/FM trade community' while at the same time SELLING compact discs that were FREELY traded to this person.

Makes me wonder what I could have gotten for the BN live tracks! I hadn't even thought of selling them.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Makes me wonder what I could have gotten for the BN live tracks! I hadn't even thought of selling them.

BN tracks you had, there's ton of those tracks floating around, some in a great quality and some that sound like garbage. I laughed when I saw my master disc of the following listed on eBay awhile back (A good way to make enemies is to sale stuff that one traded FREELY for in the FM/SN trading circles) :


Buckingham/Nicks-The Raw Demos

1. Without You (Vocals & Bass)
2. Candlebright (Vocals & Guitar)
3. That's Alright (Acapella w/Bass guitar)
4. Garbo (Vocals & Bass)
5. Cathouse Blues (Vocals & Bass guitar)
6. Sorcerer (Vocals, Bass & Banjo)
7. After the Glitter Fades (Vocals, Drums, Bass & Slide Guitar)
8. Kind of Woman (Percussion mix)
9. Without You (Vocals & Acoustic guitar)
10. Candlebright (Vocals & Guitar)
11. Garbo (Vocals & Acoustic guitar)
12. Cathouse Blues (Vocals & Acoustic guitar)
13. After the Glitter Fades (Vocals, Drums, Bass & Slide Guitar)
14. Kind of Woman
15. Sleeping Angel

If I was interested in making $$$$ I could sell my Beatles collection (Over 800 compact discs) but I'm not about $$$$ or profits.