Heart ask Sarah Palin to stop using "Barracuda"

[ajmccarrell]

Personally, they ought to quit their whining. If Obama wanted to use one of my songs, I'd be honored. I might say something on the website about not agreeing with his views, but I would consider it an honor to be part of history, or something along those lines. We all should take a lesson from John McVie; he toured relentlessly behind Bill Clinton even though he is a Republican. I think it showed class. The Wilson sisters strike me a classless in this instance.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Personally, they ought to quit their whining. If Obama wanted to use one of my songs, I'd be honored. I might say something on the website about not agreeing with his views, but I would consider it an honor to be part of history, or something along those lines. We all should take a lesson from John McVie; he toured relentlessly behind Bill Clinton even though he is a Republican. I think it showed class. The Wilson sisters strike me a classless in this instance.

Nah I think they just know what women would have in Sarah Palin..and understanding that I can easily see why Ann and Nancy would not want her to use their song as her theme song.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

We all should take a lesson from John McVie; he toured relentlessly behind Bill Clinton even though he is a Republican.

The band wasn't even together anymore when Clinton chose the song for his campaign. They reunited to play it at his inaugural.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

We all should take a lesson from John McVie; he toured relentlessly behind Bill Clinton even though he is a Republican. I think it showed class. The Wilson sisters strike me a classless in this instance.

Please refresh my memory as to where/when John has said he is a Republican.

If I was a musical artist, I wouldn't want a song of mine misrepresented and used to promote a political agenda that completely differed with my own. What's classless about that?

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Please refresh my memory as to where/when John has said he is a Republican.

If I was a musical artist, I wouldn't want a song of mine misrepresented and used to promote a political agenda that completely differed with my own. What's classless about that?

He is right about McVie at least according to Lindsey who around the time of The Clinton inauguration described John as a "rock ribbed Republican"..there is nothing classless about the Wilson's not wanting Palin to use their song...Palin herself on the other hand seems very short on that particular quality.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

He is right about McVie at least according to Lindsey who around the time of The Clinton inauguration described John as a "rock ribbed Republican"

Thanks... I need to track down that quote.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

He is right about McVie at least according to Lindsey who around the time of The Clinton inauguration described John as a "rock ribbed Republican"..there is nothing classless about the Wilson's not wanting Palin to use their song...Palin herself on the other hand seems very short on that particular quality.

Re the last comment... Based on what? She seems a lot classier than the lefty bloggers and magazines that make up stories about her. I think she's handled anything tossed at her with a great deal of class and dignity.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Re the last comment... Based on what? She seems a lot classier than the lefty bloggers and magazines that make up stories about her. I think she's handled anything tossed at her with a great deal of class and dignity.

Well some of the"'stories" are not made up .It is difficult to lie about actual video footage of her stating her wacky extreme religious veiws from the pulpit of a holy roller church..really almost everthing about her smacks of a Jerry Springer episode..like I said earlier she seems almost like an invented stereotype of a xenophobic,religiuosly preoccupied rightwingnut who can only see things in black and white ..is this really what this country needs now? I can't imagine it does.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Well some of the"'stories" are not made up .It is difficult to lie about actual video footage of her stating her wacky extreme religious veiws from the pulpit of a holy roller church..really almost everthing about her smacks of a Jerry Springer episode..like I said earlier she seems almost like an invented stereotype of a xenophobic,religiuosly preoccupied rightwingnut who can only see things in black and white ..is this really what this country needs now? I can't imagine it does.

I just can't go along and call someone a wacko based off of a series of basically positive statements. Bear in mind that you basically consider ALL religion extreme that asserts itself in any way and most of the population would look at the same video and shrug. I basically look at someone's religion and determine whether or not it basically has a positive message or not. If she was making statements about victimhood, terrorizing someone, or killing people, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. I think a lot of it is that you may not know the inner workings of various degrees of Calvinism, which is basically a theology that says that all things are willed by God. I don't agree with it, but I don't condemn something because I simply don't understand it.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

I just can't go along and call someone a wacko based off of a series of basically positive statements. Bear in mind that you basically consider ALL religion extreme that asserts itself in any way and most of the population would look at the same video and shrug. I basically look at someone's religion and determine whether or not it basically has a positive message or not. If she was making statements about victimhood, terrorizing someone, or killing people, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. I think a lot of it is that you may not know the inner workings of various degrees of Calvinism, which is basically a theology that says that all things are willed by God. I don't agree with it, but I don't condemn something because I simply don't understand it.

I understand far more about Christianity than you imagine I do .My father is an ordained baptist minster..I however have been pretty much an atheist since I was 18 or so..IMO people can worship whatever or whoever they wish but when their belief systems intrude on the rights and civil liberties of others then I have a real problem.The Christian right is intent on proselytizing and trying to shove their agenda on to others.Palin has made to me very preposterous statements like the "war is God's will"(another crusade perhaps?) and God wants Alaska to have a pipeline .If God loves us so much then why did he put more of the world's oil reserves under the sand of those pesky Moslems?ahh i know because they not us are more beloved by Allah!This is just the kind of stupidity that is causing so many problems ,murder and mayhem in the world today ..I myself would prefer not ot have someone in the White House that would even utter such words ..simple as that.

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Please refresh my memory as to where/when John has said he is a Republican.

If I was a musical artist, I wouldn't want a song of mine misrepresented and used to promote a political agenda that completely differed with my own. What's classless about that?

Well, Google "John McVie Republican" and you'll see that he says that he is quite a bit. There was also an article on the SYW that they would put Kerry stickers on his guitar case to needle him. When you release an album, you may understand you'll need all the publicity you get get!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

There was also an article on the SYW that they would put Kerry stickers on his guitar case to needle him. When

That was from Cory Buckingham's tour diary. She never said what the intent was.

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

Personally, they ought to quit their whining. If Obama wanted to use one of my songs, I'd be honored. I might say something on the website about not agreeing with his views, but I would consider it an honor to be part of history, or something along those lines. We all should take a lesson from John McVie; he toured relentlessly behind Bill Clinton even though he is a Republican. I think it showed class. The Wilson sisters strike me a classless in this instance.

I wonder if they really even mind that much at all. When you think about it, they are getting much more publicity by objecting to it than they would if they happily collected their royalties and kept quiet.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

I wonder if they really even mind that much at all. When you think about it, they are getting much more publicity by objecting to it than they would if they happily collected their royalties and kept quiet.

Depending on the venue and how its reported, it amounts to about 50 cents per spin... there's no real royalties to be had- unless it somehow spurred "Barracuda" into the Top 40, or something.

I have to believe that its simply and honestly the principle of it all.

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Depending on the venue and how its reported, it amounts to about 50 cents per spin... there's no real royalties to be had- unless it somehow spurred "Barracuda" into the Top 40, or something.

I have to believe that its simply and honestly the principle of it all.

I like Heart, but like many older acts, they aren't the huge stars they once were. They are touring a triple bill right now with Journey, and Cheap Trick. So while they may only get 50 cents every time the republicans play Barracuda, they are getting their name out there in a much bigger way than they would warming up the audience for Journey. They may even sell some more concert tickets due to the publicity, not to mention the potential to gain new fans who may have never heard of them. While it very well may be a matter of principal to them, it definitely is more beneficial for them to complain than to keep silent. Even the co writer and former guitarist of the song recognized that this exposure is a good thing for them.