Rock n Roll Tombstone-Fleetwood Mac 1967-2009

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by chiliD

We've been "without" them more than "with" them the last 25 years; so, I doubt life will be that difficult after they're officially "no more".

HA! I love your curmudgeonly dismissal. Yer just silly now. Come on. You KNOW you don't mean it.

The last 25 years has give us Mirage, Tango in the Night, Behind the Mask, Time, The Dance and Say You Will. Not to mention The Chain set and Live in Boston...

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

HA! I love your curmudgeonly dismissal. Yer just silly now. Come on. You KNOW you don't mean it.

The last 25 years has give us Mirage, Tango in the Night, Behind the Mask, Time, The Dance and Say You Will. Not to mention The Chain set and Live in Boston...

Time for a math refresher. Mirage was released in 1982. It's now 2008. That was 26 years ago. Also, I have a hard time including The Dance on that list. How hard could it have been to basically do a greatest hits live album with Viacom, Warner Bros., and Clear Channel on your side? Four studio albums in 25 years, ONE studio album in ten years...Yeah, I've moved on.

Compared to my new favorite artist, Robert Pollard, the Mac's output since 1987 has been laughable at best. He released three full length albums, one double album, a mini-EP, a "comedy" album of stage banter, a self-published art magazine, and a Best Of compilation LAST YEAR. He's already released three albums, an EP, and a self-published magazine of funny stories this year AND has an art book coming out next month, and has close to FIVE albums in the can. He has also released a series of 12 7" singles since last July. He's done more in two years that the Mac have done in two decades.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Compared to my new favorite artist, Robert Pollard, the Mac's output since 1987 has been laughable at best. He released three full length albums, one double album, a mini-EP, a "comedy" album of stage banter, a self-published art magazine, and a Best Of compilation LAST YEAR. He's already released three albums, an EP, and a self-published magazine of funny stories this year AND has an art book coming out next month, and has close to FIVE albums in the can. He has also released a series of 12 7" singles since last July. He's done more in two years that the Mac have done in two decades.

I wouldn't even want Fleetwood Mac to do half of that stuff. Here guys, here's $50, do not release a comedy album of stage banter. Not that they aren't funny mind you, it's just . . .

Michele

[ajmccarrell]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Time for a math refresher. Mirage was released in 1982. It's now 2008. That was 26 years ago. Also, I have a hard time including The Dance on that list. How hard could it have been to basically do a greatest hits live album with Viacom, Warner Bros., and Clear Channel on your side? Four studio albums in 25 years, ONE studio album in ten years...Yeah, I've moved on.

Compared to my new favorite artist, Robert Pollard, the Mac's output since 1987 has been laughable at best. He released three full length albums, one double album, a mini-EP, a "comedy" album of stage banter, a self-published art magazine, and a Best Of compilation LAST YEAR. He's already released three albums, an EP, and a self-published magazine of funny stories this year AND has an art book coming out next month, and has close to FIVE albums in the can. He has also released a series of 12 7" singles since last July. He's done more in two years that the Mac have done in two decades.

(sniff, sniff) Why am I not your favorite band.....

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I wouldn't even want Fleetwood Mac to do half of that stuff. Here guys, here's $50, do not release a comedy album of stage banter. Not that they aren't funny mind you, it's just . . .

Fleetwood Mac couldn't do one. Maybe back in 1968-1970. Today it would be a self-help record about healing.

But, Bob is one funny mofo. It's mostly just trash talk (Bob was a jock in rough, blue collar part of Dayton), and it's hilarious. One time I saw GbV, and he came out holding a microphone in one hand and a bottle of beer and a cigarette in the other. He then went on to say this:

We are the fourth greatest band in the world. The first greatest band in the world is Pearl Jam. The second greatest band in the world is Radiohead. The third greatest band in the world is R.E.M. And we're number four! F*CK you Foo Fighters, we're number four.

Bob is one of the few guys who you can see, not know any songs, and still have an amazing time.

Originally Posted by ajmccarrell

(sniff, sniff) Why am I not your favorite band.....

Because Lindsey Buckingham has turned the live show into his therapy session. I'm a social worker. That **** bores me to tears. I'm paying to have a good time, and that just makes it feel like a day at work. And, at the time, I was working at a homeless shelter, so Lindsey's whining seemed all the more rediculous. The last thing I want at a show is somebody recanting a therapy session. It's bull****. If he has nothing to say, then shut the eff up and play. Plus, I think it's bull**** that he charged $30+ and played, really, an hour's worth of music. The big event on a Saturday night should NOT be over by 10. Gee, great. I paid over $30 so you could play some songs -mostly live, though somewhat Memorex- and essentially have me be your emotional tampon because you were in one of the world's biggest bands, but they didn't think you **** rainbows. You know, you chould have just shut the hell up and played ALL of your songs off of Tusk instead of whining about the band not thinking glowing things about that album back in 1979. Quit bein' a pussy. [PS, the specific straw that broke the camel's back was something about realizing a dream he had wasn't going to come true, and that he had to allow himself time to mourn the loss of the dream. You know, when you've seen somebody mourn the loss of a mustard sandwich, losing a dream seems irrelevant.]

Bob charges $15-ish and turns it into a party, and I ain't talkin' 'bout a dancin' to the oldies party. I'm talking about a "how in the f*ck did I not get arrested last night" party.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Compared to my new favorite artist, Robert Pollard, the Mac's output since 1987 has been laughable at best. He released three full length albums, one double album, a mini-EP, a "comedy" album of stage banter, a self-published art magazine, and a Best Of compilation LAST YEAR. He's already released three albums, an EP, and a self-published magazine of funny stories this year AND has an art book coming out next month, and has close to FIVE albums in the can. He has also released a series of 12 7" singles since last July. He's done more in two years that the Mac have done in two decades.

Steve do you ever think of anything other than Robert Pollard/Guided By Voices these days? I'm starting to wonder if you are him.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Steve do you ever think of anything other than Robert Pollard/Guided By Voices these days? I'm starting to wonder if you are him.

Well, I also think about my music, my job, and going to hockey and soccer games (and subsequently narrowly avoiding death and/or jail). But the rest is pretty much Bob. With a release schedule like that, there's always something new and fresh. Actually, it's sometimes hard to digest all of that new material. I'm definitely NOT him. I know him, and sometimes go drinking with him and his crew. Bob's an amazingly talented and genuine man and I feel extraordinarily lucky to know somebody like that. He lived the dream without selling out.

Although, I've been listening to Madison Blues (the rehearsal/live recordings of Christine's first Mac tour) a lot lately. Actually, I made a hypothetical album from the bits and pieces I have from that era, and think it may have been my favorite Mac album yet. Christine's voice could be a little rough at times, which isn't a bad thing for me. (I'd MUCH rather have rough over polished these days.)

1. Crazy 'Bout You
2. When Will I Be Loved (BBC Sessions)
3. Dragonfly
4. Purple Dancer
5. Down At The Crown
6. I Can't Stop Loving Her
7. Open The Door
8. Lonely Without You
9. When I See (BBC Sessions)
10. Preachin' (BBC Sessions)
11. It's Alright Now (from a bootleg I have from the tour)
12. Trinity

[David]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Although, I've been listening to Madison Blues (the rehearsal/live recordings of Christine's first Mac tour) a lot lately. Actually, I made a hypothetical album from the bits and pieces I have from that era, and think it may have been my favorite Mac album yet. Christine's voice could be a little rough at times, which isn't a bad thing for me. (I'd MUCH rather have rough over polished these days.)

1. Crazy 'Bout You
2. When Will I Be Loved (BBC Sessions)
3. Dragonfly

Is this DRAGONFLY from MADISON BLUES studio or live?

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by David

Is this DRAGONFLY from MADISON BLUES studio or live?

Dragonfly isn't on Madison Blues, but it is, as you know, from that era. I would echo Steve's sentiments about the excellence of that recording, especially Christine's live-in-studio version of Crazy 'Bout You Baby, where her vocals are inspired and both Kirwan and Spencer's set guitar spots are excellent.

Her live vocals are a bit sketchier, but overall the entire recording has lots to recommend.

[David]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Dragonfly isn't on Madison Blues, but it is, as you know, from that era.

But I want DRAGONFLY live (weep sob).

In other words, what you're saying is I'm piss out of luck?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by David

Is this DRAGONFLY from MADISON BLUES studio or live?

No, the Dragonfly I used was from the 1971 Greatest Hits CD, and Trinty was from the box. The rest was from Madison Blues, except where noted. Actually, my favorite of the lot may be It's Alright Now, which I'm a little surprised wasn't included on Madison Blues. I got that from a torrent that was posted a few years back. I only know of two recordings of that song, and both were included in the torrent. That's one I'm a little shocked they never revisited.

[David]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

No, the Dragonfly I used was from the 1971 Greatest Hits CD, and Trinty was from the box. The rest was from Madison Blues, except where noted. Actually, my favorite of the lot may be It's Alright Now, which I'm a little surprised wasn't included on Madison Blues. I got that from a torrent that was posted a few years back. I only know of two recordings of that song, and both were included in the torrent. That's one I'm a little shocked they never revisited.

I don't want to talk about anything except DRAGONFLY.

Did you see the chords I posted?

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Well, I also think about my music, my job, and going to hockey and soccer games (and subsequently narrowly avoiding death and/or jail). But the rest is pretty much Bob. With a release schedule like that, there's always something new and fresh. Actually, it's sometimes hard to digest all of that new material. I'm definitely NOT him. I know him, and sometimes go drinking with him and his crew. Bob's an amazingly talented and genuine man and I feel extraordinarily lucky to know somebody like that. He lived the dream without selling out.

Although, I've been listening to Madison Blues (the rehearsal/live recordings of Christine's first Mac tour) a lot lately. Actually, I made a hypothetical album from the bits and pieces I have from that era, and think it may have been my favorite Mac album yet. Christine's voice could be a little rough at times, which isn't a bad thing for me. (I'd MUCH rather have rough over polished these days.)

1. Crazy 'Bout You
2. When Will I Be Loved (BBC Sessions)
3. Dragonfly
4. Purple Dancer
5. Down At The Crown
6. I Can't Stop Loving Her
7. Open The Door
8. Lonely Without You
9. When I See (BBC Sessions)
10. Preachin' (BBC Sessions)
11. It's Alright Now (from a bootleg I have from the tour)
12. Trinity

I have really enjoyed this too!! I'm so glad someone else does...