Huge Fleetwood Mac Update

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I believe she was and we have Mick's unfailing greed to thank for her not participating.What could have been the band's finest album since Tusk was not to be thanks to that quality of his .

Is there any evidence that Christine was willing to participate on the album? I've seen it discussed here and it is the generally accepted version but I don't recall reading any direct quotes from the lady herself or did I miss them?

Gail

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Gailh

Is there any evidence that Christine was willing to participate on the album? I've seen it discussed here and it is the generally accepted version but I don't recall reading any direct quotes from the lady herself or did I miss them?

Gail

I read none by her as well. Maybe some of the In the Meantime interviews discussed it, but I do not recall that. I do recall La Nicks, Mick, and (I think) LB) discussing her willingness to participate but not go on the road, which was the problem. I understand the band's logic and essentially agree. Then, I hear Steal Your Heart Away and realize logic aside, it was a mistake because that song is pure Rumours era Mac and it is delightful in part because of CM's voice.

In the end, I say if La Nicks is resigned never to having a hit single again due to the reasons she has cited (kids lying on the floor smoking dope waiting for the next FM record ) -- then why not let CM record -- what do they in reality have to lose compared to the potential gain.

But, maybe now CM would not record with them. After all, that was over seven years ago and she officially left in 97.

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I read none by her as well. Maybe some of the In the Meantime interviews discussed it, but I do not recall that. I do recall La Nicks, Mick, and (I think) LB) discussing her willingness to participate but not go on the road, which was the problem. I understand the band's logic and essentially agree. Then, I hear Steal Your Heart Away and realize logic aside, it was a mistake because that song is pure Rumours era Mac and it is delightful in part because of CM's voice.

In the end, I say if La Nicks is resigned never to having a hit single again due to the reasons she has cited (kids lying on the floor smoking dope waiting for the next FM record ) -- then why not let CM record -- what do they in reality have to lose compared to the potential gain.

But, maybe now CM would not record with them. After all, that was over seven years ago and she officially left in 97.

I seem to remember John saying something to effect that if she wasn't willing to "work" the album i.e. tour then there was no point in her recording. It seemed to me that on the last tour they "worked" Rumours more than SYW but hey that's just my opinion.

I don't know that Christine would even be willing to record with them again. It's been 4 years since ITM so perhaps she's had enough of recording as well as touring. I think it's very simple though. If she does want to record with them again she tells Mick exactly what it would take and Mick says "yes Chris"

I have a feeling that she's done with it all now. I do hope I'm wrong but that's my opinion.

Gail

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Gailh

. . . I have a feeling that she's done with it all now. I do hope I'm wrong but that's my opinion . . . .

I do hope she would too. But, she is in her mid 60's and "the call of the wild" likely is not that alluring to her anymore.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Gailh

I seem to remember John saying something to effect that if she wasn't willing to "work" the album i.e. tour then there was no point in her recording. It seemed to me that on the last tour they "worked" Rumours more than SYW but hey that's just my opinion.

They've "worked" Rumours more than any of their subsequent albums since 1977, that they did it again in 2003 comes as a surprise?

And, that is, IMHO, what has damaged their reputation as much as having two of the main songwriters attempting simultaneous solo careers. Hence my feeling that Fleetwood Mac just should've called it a day on September 2, 1980 (the day after the Tusk tour ended).

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by chiliD

They've "worked" Rumours more than any of their subsequent albums since 1977, that they did it again in 2003 comes as a surprise?

No, no surprise just disappointment.

Gail

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Gailh

No, no surprise just disappointment.

Gail

I tend to disagree. I think SYW had many non-rumours moments on it. From nicksfix.com:

Fleetwood Mac 2003-2004

130 shows from May 7, 2003 to September 14, 2004

The Chain
Dreams Peacekeeper
Eyes of the World
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Gypsy
Come
Running Through the Garden
Big Love
Landslide
Say Goodbye
What's the World Coming To
Destiny Rules
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs (arguable)
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Goodbye Baby

*Later shows added Second Hand News and dropped Destiny Rules and Running through the Garden The set list may vary a little through the tour.

So - they played other stuff too and 7/24 from Rumours, though SS was dropped toward the end of the third leg.

Again, I would like to see them haul out otehr hits. But, such is life.

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I tend to disagree. I think SYW had many non-rumours moments on it. From nicksfix.com:

Fleetwood Mac 2003-2004

130 shows from May 7, 2003 to September 14, 2004

The Chain
Dreams Peacekeeper
Eyes of the World
Say You Will
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Gypsy
Come
Running Through the Garden
Big Love
Landslide
Say Goodbye
What's the World Coming To
Destiny Rules
Beautiful Child
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Silver Springs (arguable)
Tusk
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Goodbye Baby

*Later shows added Second Hand News and dropped Destiny Rules and Running through the Garden The set list may vary a little through the tour.

So - they played other stuff too and 7/24 from Rumours, though SS was dropped toward the end of the third leg.

Again, I would like to see them haul out otehr hits. But, such is life.

I think by the time I saw them in London they'd dropped Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden so I made it 8 from Rumours and 6 from SYW

Gail