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Old 03-14-2008, 07:04 AM
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Wow. I wonder if this is what Mick had to do to get Stevie to go on tour again. Better still, has anyone told Lindsey?
Ha ha ha.

Stevie: "Sheryl's just our friend, you know. Really, if Sheryl hadn't been our friend she would never have played on this record. She got to come in and play some keyboards because we love her and she's a sweetheart. And you know, who knows... if she shows up at the back door at one or our shows... "Lindsey, pleeeease, can I just come up and stand on the stage?"... he might let her."

Personally I think this news is crap.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:22 AM
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I'm not sure that I share the excitement. I like Sheryl Crow doing her thing, and I like Fleetwood Mac doing their thing. I really don't want the two things combined. I mean, it is going to change the whole dynamics of the band! The sound might even be different. Is the Mac going to be singing Sheryl Crow songs? I have a lot of questions. I'm sure this is related to the hub-bub that Stevie wasn't going to tour without Christine. Well, this isn't Christine. It is another female, but it isn't Christine. I hope that the band has thought this through.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:53 AM
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I need a little more info on all this. When I first saw the headline on my Netscape homepage I immediately thought, "Stevie's out and Sheryl's taking her place...That's NOT going to work...so that's what Mick was hinting at?" So, I guess I was a little off but still need more details.

I had to read the story over again...it says they "have plans for collaborating in the future." I don't know. Collaborating says to me that she isn't joining as a full time member and that it's more along the lines of her involvement with Stevie for the TISL album/tour.

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Old 03-14-2008, 07:55 AM
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i completely agree with you, i don't think she's "The new member"
But i do think she would tour with them, you know Co-headlining and sing harmonies with them. That would be ok,

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I need a little more info on all this. When I first saw the headline on my Netscape homepage I immediately thought, "Stevie's out and sheryl's taking her place....oh noooooo! That is NOT going to work...so that's what Mick was hinting at?" So, I guess I was a little off but still need more details.

I had to read the story over again...it says they "have plans for collaborating in the future." I don't know. It's way too vague. I think her or anyone else joining the band as a permanent musician/singer is out of the question. I just don't see that happening. I think this is more along the lines of what happened with TISL.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:44 AM
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Gosh... I am buzzing over this news. In fact, I think it's the most exciting thing to happen in the FM family since the release of Say You Will. This is so shocking and unexpected as much as it seems like it has been foreshadowed and seems inevitable. Considering that Stevie and Sheryl have not exactly been BFFs publicly as of late, this is especially shocking. Oh, the possibilities are just infinite!!!

The reasons why this makes sense:

-The obvious Stevie-Sheryl girl power connection.

-Lindsey's respect and admiration for Sheryl and their common love of quirky studio trickery.

-Sheryl played keyboards on the SYW, which also features a song written about Sheryl.

-Sheryl fans tend to be FM fans and vice versa.

-Sheryl has matured into a veteran musician with legit singing, songwriting and performing chops.

-Sheryl's innate musical style is very similar to FM. Listen to "It Don't Hurt" and tell me it was not influenced by "The Chain."

The wonderful possibilities:

-Perhaps Sheryl's multi-faceted talents as a guitarist, bassist, keyboardist and singer will help to pare down the "Fleetwood Mac Orchestra" live lineup we've been seeing since 1987. Perhaps it won't be necessary for Carlos Rios or Jana to be in this lineup (one hopes)!!

-Sheryl and Stevie dueting on "Strong Enough."

-Inspiring the band to enter the studio and hopefully bringing keyboards back into the mix.

-Sheryl ALWAYS changes up her setlist. Perhaps some of that will rub off on FM.

-Sheryl may be able to revive some really obscure nuggets from the FM catalog, especially from the early 70's, like the way Rick Vito revived "Another Woman." Her take would be so different that she could pull it off without sounding like she is trying to do an imitation.

-I can't wait to see the five of them together at the inevitable press conference!

What could go wrong:

-Sheryl had better keep a low profile ala Christine. There is only room for ONE diva in FM. This means man-tailored suit jackets and jeans ONLY.

-Sheryl's voice is not as warm and full as Christine's, which will totally change the sound of the harmonies.

-Sheryl should sing no more than two solo songs. Ironically, I think "A Change Would Do You Good" would be perfect (and apt) for FM. "Strong Enough" should be the other.

-Sheryl should be allowed to sing only one Christine song besides "Don't Stop," which Lindsey sings mostly anyway. "You Make Loving Fun" would be it. Any more Christine songs would just magnify her absence.

-Sheryl has got a very large vocal range compared to Stevie, so she'd better keep the mellisma in check.

I am really, really, really excited about this. This news just made my whole week!
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:47 AM
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. . . -Sheryl had better keep a low profile ala Christine. There is only room for ONE diva in FM. This means man-tailored suit jackets and jeans ONLY . . . .
She wore revealing, sexy and hawt clothing on the TISL tour
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:08 PM
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-Lindsey's respect and admiration for Sheryl and their common love of quirky studio trickery.
Lindsey has spoken publicly about Sheryl? What did he say?

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-Sheryl played keyboards on the SYW, which also features a song written about Sheryl.
Yes, but everybody played keyboards on SYW, even John.

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True, these days.

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-Perhaps Sheryl's multi-faceted talents as a guitarist, bassist, keyboardist and singer will help to pare down the "Fleetwood Mac Orchestra" live lineup we've been seeing since 1987. Perhaps it won't be necessary for Carlos Rios or Jana to be in this lineup (one hopes)!!
I don't think the band -- as long as Buckingham or Nicks is in it -- would ever go out without the backups. They LOVE their backups.

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-Inspiring the band to enter the studio and hopefully bringing keyboards back into the mix.
Whuh? There are lots of keyboards on SYW -- probably more than any other Mac album (where Lindsey often used guitars to mimic boards).

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-I can't wait to see the five of them together at the inevitable press conference!
That would be cool!

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-Sheryl's voice is not as warm and full as Christine's, which will totally change the sound of the harmonies.
I don't think it will "totally" change, not with SharonMindyJanaEtc. still there singing. Sheryl even sort of sounds like a backup singer -- same timbre. She also very efficiently goes into backup singer mode. Witness her appearances with Stevie on her Troubled tour.
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:28 PM
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I cannot begin to tell you how much this whole notion angers me. I find it absolutely disgusting that there is even the thought of Sheryl Crow being added as a member of Fleetwood Mac. Go through the history of the band and you'll find that almost every member was added to the band based on intuition and instinct. Adding Crow would be the equivilent of selling out in my view. I hope this isn't true.

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Old 03-14-2008, 12:52 PM
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Lindsey has spoken publicly about Sheryl? What did he say?


Yes, but everybody played keyboards on SYW, even John.
Oh, I believe it was from an article written around the time of SYW... or TISL... something like that. It's not fun getting old. Irregardless, it is very, very unusual to have guests appearing on a FM album, so the fact that she was invited in to play keyboards is quite an honor and a testament to Sheryl's insider status with the band.


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I don't think the band -- as long as Buckingham or Nicks is in it -- would ever go out without the backups. They LOVE their backups.
If you think about it, Sheryl Crow is the ultimate backup. She does it all, except for percussion.

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Whuh? There are lots of keyboards on SYW -- probably more than any other Mac album (where Lindsey often used guitars to mimic boards).
I couldn't disagree with you more. SYW had lots of synthesizer-like sounds that were created via guitar pedals and effects. It was an album that was completely dominated by the guitar in which a few keyboard parts were added here and there to accentuate or fill out the sound. There isn't a single song on the album that was built around a keyboard part ala practically every Christine song. For me, the essence of the FM sound has always been around Christine's playing, so SYW was unsatisfying for me in that respect. I think Sheryl would bring back that bluesy heavy electric piano sound that has been sorely missing as of late.

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I don't think it will "totally" change, not with SharonMindyJanaEtc. still there singing. Sheryl even sort of sounds like a backup singer -- same timbre. She also very efficiently goes into backup singer mode. Witness her appearances with Stevie on her Troubled tour.
It has already changed with Christine's departure. But, in a way, one could argue that Sharon and Christine both have a similar tone to their voice- that soft, full, husky sound, whereas Stevie and Sheryl both have a reedy, girly quality to their voices. If Sheryl takes over the parts traditionally sung by Sharon/Christine, it's definitely going to sound different. In fact, at times it could sound like Stevie is harmonizing with herself, like she does on her studio recordings.
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:07 PM
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Lindsey has spoken publicly about Sheryl? What did he say?
Lindsey hasn't spoken about Sheryl. Although, the way she was draped over him at the end of AHI, I would assume that they must have had some friendly dialogue at one time.

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-Sheryl had better keep a low profile ala Christine. There is only room for ONE diva in FM. This means man-tailored suit jackets and jeans ONLY.
no no
Sheryl is restricted to man suits
Linds is the only one allowed to wear jeans
or tight black leather pants if he wants to jazz it up
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no no
Sheryl is restricted to man suits
Linds is the only one allowed to wear jeans
or tight black leather pants if he wants to jazz it up
Hey, with Sheryl there, we might get a real music video, along the lines of Sorcerer and not one of those taped performance videos. Leather, lace, red lipstick, guitar poses. It could be kind of steamy.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:45 AM
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I think any new breath that is breathed into FM at this point is welcome

I think SC plays the piano, bass, and lead guitars. So, she and LB could jam together, though he appears not to share the sandbox very well.

Another point is she is a star in her own right and does not need to do this and vice versa. So, it must be being done for artistic sake, which IMO will lead to a different and hopefully good sound.
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Another point is she is a star in her own right and does not need to do this and vice versa. So, it must be being done for artistic sake, which IMO will lead to a different and hopefully good sound.
I read in an article somewhere recently that Sheryl now believes that she has reached the point in her career (i.e., she's gotten over the hill) where she is not under as much pressure to crank out hit records. As such, she is probably now going to take some time to rest on her laurels and just have some fun. Sheryl lurves performing live and playing music just for the sake of doing it, whether it is her own stuff or a bunch of covers. And considering she grew up idolizing FM, this must be pure heaven for her.

But then again, I'm sure the new baby is creating quite the incentive to go out there and rake in boatloads of cash. College ain't getting cheaper, you know.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:27 AM
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I am pretty sure SC has loads of cash as she does not seem to live any kind of opulent lifestyle. In fact. didn't Stevie say that SC had a tiny place in NYC. Granted, that likely was still a million dollars -- but someone of her stature could easily afford this Brobdingnagian nest (which I want BTW) -



Also, I think SC, like most artists realize money is made only on the road now. I mean she may sell a million records, but that hardly matches a 20 city tour at $50,000+ a show plus the merch. rev.
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