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Old 02-05-2008, 01:37 PM
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Just read it. I'm not making the connection between lobbyists & taking a pic with a gay pioneer. Help me, old & wise one.

BTW - interesting that the HRC (Human Rights Campaign) rates Obama & Hillary the same on gay rights despite his refusal to take a pic with someone.
I think we are talking about two different things. I thought we were talking about the lobbyists "volunteering" on Obama's campaign, allegedly with no hope of political favor. He is doing that now.

As for the photo op - Obama is no fool - he is playing the gays and they are lapping it up - much like they did when Bill Clinton did just about the same thind in 1992 - I was in the room when he said he would abolish the ban on gays in the military.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:25 PM
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I think we are talking about two different things. I thought we were talking about the lobbyists "volunteering" on Obama's campaign, allegedly with no hope of political favor. He is doing that now.

As for the photo op - Obama is no fool - he is playing the gays and they are lapping it up - much like they did when Bill Clinton did just about the same thind in 1992 - I was in the room when he said he would abolish the ban on gays in the military.
How is he "playing the gays" by NOT having his pic taken with Newsom in 2003? I was responding to Vermicious' post. I think we're still talking about 2 different things.

And I think both dem candidates are far more pro-gay than the republicans (duh), but are any of you upset that both Hillary & Obama support civil unions, but not "gay marriage?" Just curious.

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And I think both dem candidates are far more pro-gay than the republicans (duh), but are any of you upset that both Hillary & Obama support civil unions, but not "gay marriage?" Just curious.
yes! I am upset by that. But at this point it's almost a let's take what we can get.

And for the record - the reference to Ann Coulter as a trans woman in this thread is totally offensive. (offensive to trans people - I don't care about Ann Coulter). No, I'm not kidding...just wanted to throw that out there
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