Mirage Demos/Outtakes

[David]

Originally Posted by joe

i believe "i've been loving you..." was from the mirage tour rehearsals...

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

I've never considered "I've Been Loving You To Long" to be a demo or an outtake. Fleetwood Mac rarely records covers. Most likely, they were just playing around in the studio, killing time, and entertaining themselves.

I second these guys. I say it's from a tour rehearsal -- I guess in this case the '82 rehearsals. Soundwise, it even has the ambience of the '82 rehearsal audio that you've all heard. It sounds just like the rest of it. They're just messing around; you get sick of going over "Go Your Own Way" forty times so you play other stuff for fun & release. The Otis Redding material is something that all of them would have known forever.

Same thing with that "Beauty & Beast." It was a tour rehearsal. that's about the only situation that Fleetwood Mac ever got together & set up their equipment in close proximity. The band's not even paying attention. It's just a loose jam.

Originally Posted by David

I second these guys. I say it's from a tour rehearsal -- I guess in this case the '82 rehearsals. Soundwise, it even has the ambience of the '82 rehearsal audio that you've all heard. It sounds just like the rest of it. They're just messing around; you get sick of going over "Go Your Own Way" forty times so you play other stuff for fun & release. The Otis Redding material is something that all of them would have known forever.

Same thing with that "Beauty & Beast." It was a tour rehearsal. that's about the only situation that Fleetwood Mac ever got together & set up their equipment in close proximity. The band's not even paying attention. It's just a loose jam.

David! You're back! Where the hell have you been, buddy? I and "we" have missed you....

Are you saying that the infamous Beauty and the Beast is a Tusk tour rehearsal? I kinda considered that but, being naive as I still am at my age, I thought maybe it WAS an early studio demo rehearsal. Then again, how many studio rehearsals do we have from them where the whole band is playing? Seems like they never played live in the studio, rehearsing a song. Everything was overdubbed and layered etc. It's amazing that they pulled anything off live as great as they did.

[David]

Originally Posted by joe

David! You're back! Where the hell have you been, buddy?

Hi Joe. it's been the year from hell for me.

Are you saying that the infamous Beauty and the Beast is a Tusk tour rehearsal? I kinda considered that but, being naive as I still am at my age, I thought maybe it WAS an early studio demo rehearsal. Then again, how many studio rehearsals do we have from them where the whole band is playing? Seems like they never played live in the studio, rehearsing a song. Everything was overdubbed and layered etc. It's amazing that they pulled anything off live as great as they did.

I think it is. It sounds like that kind of thing to me. Back when I could argue, I used to argue with Loftus about that one. I guess anything can happen if you rent a studio for a whole year, even though it couldn't have been SOP for the band to play as a combo in the studio. You're mic'd differently, so it's a lot of shuffling around. Plus, in Fleetwood's case, they didn't always use the same instruments for recording as they did for live playing. I just don't hear anybody trying on "Beauty & the Beast" as if they were really trying to squeeze an idea out of it. But I don't know for sure. If it had been dated accurately on the reel, you'd have a far better picture (fall '78 vs. fall '79).