New interview

[danax6]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Actually, she said "I think I aws singing through one of his solos or something," which is consistent with what she and others have said before If you have any contrary quotes from her or others, let's see them

Nice try though

First time I heard it. I'll lovingly provide more quotes when I am not in bed ready to go to sleep. Hang in there, they're coming.

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Exactly, though LB is far to important an artist to care about money or hits, just ask that rental car company that he sold GYOW to

Do you have this saved in a notepad file somewhere? You know, ready to be copy/pasted whenever someone brings up that Lindsey's not that commercially driven as the rest of his bandmates?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by danax6

First time I heard it. I'll lovingly provide more quotes when I am not in bed ready to go to sleep. Hang in there, they're coming.

I suggest devoting several hours to the search

But, here is a quote from :

We are delighted you make the effort to dress up. It was 1980 the last time you were in New Zealand. I guess you remember that.

The big Fleetwood Mac fight. It has become a thing of mythology that night. I remember it quite well because Lindsey and I got into a fight at the end of the show when I was singing during one of his solos and he threw his guitar at me. He didn't hit me because I ducked and it missed me. The song ended and we went off stage. It was the only time in our whole existence we did not do an encore.

It was as unprofessional as Fleetwood Mac have ever been. Needless to say he was not forgiven for 10 years. We felt bad because so many people were there and had been bussed in from all over New Zealand. And for something that stupid to happen, we were so angry with him.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/

Originally Posted by danax6

Do you have this saved in a notepad file somewhere? You know, ready to be copy/pasted whenever someone brings up that Lindsey's not that commercially driven as the rest of his bandmates?

Just calling a spade a spade

To be fair, I do think LB is more creative than any other member of the Rumors line up. I also agree he likes to push the envelope. But, those things are different than not being commercially driven, which he is matter what he or anyone else says. I would even go so far to say that La Nicks' ease at obtaining commercial success made him insanely jealous of her, though he would never admit that.

Edited to correct typo and to say LB is commerically driven no matter how brilliant an artist he is.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I suggest devoting several hours to the search

But, here is a quote from :



http://www.nzherald.co.nz/



Just calling a spade a spade

To be fair, I do think LB is more creative than any other member of the Rumors line up. I also agree he likes to push the envelope. But, those things are different than not being commercially driven, which he is not matter what he or anyone else says. I would even go so far to say that La Nicks' ease at obtaining commercial success made him insanely jealous of her, though he would never admit that.

Fo Sho

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by BlackWidow

Fo Sho

I edited my statment to say LB is commericially driven. The original statement had a typo.

Again, why would LB keep running back to FM if he were not?

Note - I do not disparage him for that. In fact, I think he was smart to do so as FM has kept him in the limelight since 1987, after all Big Love was a big hit for them and his production certainly put Everywhere, 7W, and Little Lies over the commercial success line. Sadly, that commercial success eluded him thereafter, save for his return to FM twice.

In the end, I just do not see the big deal with saying he likes commercial success and will return to FM to get it.

Finally, I hope his new rock record is a huge success. Odds are it will not be though and that sucks.

[Sugar]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, why would LB keep running back to FM if he were not?

Maybe he actually likes working with these people. Now, I don't have every FM quote committed to memory, but haven't these things always started with, "Well I needed some help on my album so I called Mick..." Then everyone ends up showing up and well...it's a FM album! I certainly don't know what happens, but it's not hard for me to imagine that Mick pushes the whole "let's make this an FM thing," due in no small part that it would mean some cash for him and John.

Since the Dance and in the DR doc, Lindsey seems positively giddy to work with the members of FM, including Stevie, but certainly with John and Mick as well. Certainly Linds has bills to pay and he wants financial success (as do we all), but if he was so driven by commercial success why in the hell would he EVER make a solo album?

[strandinthewind]

^^^

Oh - I think he likes FM more than he will ever admit. I also think he likes working with La Nicks (and vice versa) way more than he ever will admit

In the end, I view him as torn. He loves the limelight (perhaps more than the money) - but wants to have it shine as brightly on his in your face non-conformist stuff, like "Come." Yet, he cannot have it that way because that stuff just does not sell as well as say a "Big Love," which I submit was still edgy. I think he then goes to FM and wants to be way outside of the mainstream and CM and La Nicks are just not that, esp. CM, who is all about pop songs, and delicious ones at that.

As for why he ever made a solo record - I think it is because Stevie made one without him and it was a huge success, which had to hurt his ego. I also think that he really wanted to test leaving FM, a group he struggled to stay in IMO as set forth above. Yet, he, unlike Stevie, never reached that superstar status with his solo stuff. Unlike her, he still needed FM to stay in the limelight to any significant degree. Again, his music was great, but he just did not have, in the eyes of the public, star quality. He could not sell four million records on his own. That had to hurt.

[Sugar]

^^^ I'm not so sure about the vice-versa. You don't hear Linds saying the same stuff about Stevie in interviews that she says about him. Not to belabor the point, but I think Lindsey's time away from the band gave him a chance to process and come to terms with Stevie-ness; I'm not certain that she ever gave herself the chance to do the same and that she finds herself falling back into hostilities that he has since dealt with and moved on.

Sure he's torn. He has his vision and wants to remain true to it, and who doesn't want their vision validated by wide-spread acceptance? And OBVIOUSLY he likes being on stage!

Generally speaking, I agree with your reasoning as to why he made Law & Order. Can you imagine the level of competition between those two in the early 80's? Had it been successful, it also would have validated his vision which he had already taken a lot of crap for after the "failure" of Tusk.

My point is that if he is so driven by commercial success, why in the hell would he have ever made another solo album (let alone 3) after the dismal commercial failure of L&O?

[danax6]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But, here is a quote from :

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/

Wow, and you know what's weird, I reread that article a few days ago because I added it to my little article database. Obviously I was on drugs when reading it.

Saves me the trouble of posting the quotes with different versions of the incident.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by danax6

Wow, and you know what's weird, I reread that article a few days ago because I added it to my little article database. Obviously I was on drugs when reading it.

Saves me the trouble of posting the quotes with different versions of the incident.

I am too bored of the same old argument to take his bait this week.

I think I finally have it straight though...

LB is an ogre...Stevie is perfect.

LB is abusive, Stevie is loving, gentle and NEVER, EVER pushed his buttons.

Lindsey is all about the money and Stevie writes, tours and sacrificed her entire life's happiness for the art.

Lindsey is terrifying and scares even small children but Stevie is as meak and mild as a church mouse. She never causes any problems in the band..........ever. Anything that does go wrong in FM is Lindsey's fault.


Stevie cannot even keep her own story straight about the Tusk incident, but some people, who were not even there, know exactly what happened. (from a few contradictory, drugged up, thirty year old recollections) Mmkay.

[JazmenFlowers]

wow, what's this? fairy school?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Kelly

I am too bored of the same old argument to take his bait this week.

I think I finally have it straight though...

LB is an ogre...Stevie is perfect.

LB is abusive, Stevie is loving, gentle and NEVER, EVER pushed his buttons.

Lindsey is all about the money and Stevie writes, tours and sacrificed her entire life's happiness for the art.

Lindsey is terrifying and scares even small children but Stevie is as meak and mild as a church mouse. She never causes any problems in the band..........ever. Anything that does go wrong in FM is Lindsey's fault.


Stevie cannot even keep her own story straight about the Tusk incident, but some people, who were not even there, know exactly what happened. (from a few contradictory, drugged up, thirty year old recollections) Mmkay.

Lord Child - no one is saying that and you know it

I do think it is hysterical that you cannot fathom for one minute that the incident happened or that LB is in any way ever wrong. Moreover, please show me one quote where La Nicks or anyone of any merit around here has said anything like this?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by danax6

Wow, and you know what's weird, I reread that article a few days ago because I added it to my little article database. Obviously I was on drugs when reading it.

Saves me the trouble of posting the quotes with different versions of the incident.

I have at least five "senior moments" a day now - so I know what you mean

On edit - I think the quotes are consistent What is different about them?