Just Skimmed Through STORMS

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

Sounds logical that she would deny or down-play her problems while pointing out other people's flaws/weaknesses. I read somewhere that Lindsey paid for her rehab and bought her a house and may or may not have paid her some palimony.

Does it mention who the ghost writer was? Sounds like they didn't do a very good job of fact checking as posters have reported glaring inaccuracies.

CarolC

She paints herself as a total saint and it is really nauseating. Her whole "Florence Nightengale, me and Lindsey against the big, bad Fleetwood mac" attitude was sooo over the top. People have spoken up about her relationship with LB, from Ken Callait to Lindsey himself. THEY claim she had a drug problem. Of course she is not going to make herself look coked up or like she cheated on LB.......she wants to come off as credible. The way the book was written was really hard to take in large doses...there was way too much dramatic phrasing and overly romanticized stories. Her claims to have always wanted to befriend Stevie sound pretty unbelievable to me. I have no problem with what she wrote about LB...we all know he is no saint, my problem is with how she paints herself and her relationship with LB. The whole thing was just a bizzare read. Plus, her photos really suck. For someone who supposedly spent a good seven years with Lindsey, how come she included no decent pictures? None are in color and all of them are blurry or from twenty miles away.

Overall, she obviously is trying to cash in an old relationship. Hopefully she won't sell more than a few hundred copies.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Kelly

. . . Overall, she obviously is trying to cash in an old relationship . . .

Again, the same exact way La Nicks and LB do

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, the same exact way La Nicks and LB do

Not the same and you know it. CA writing a trashy novel is not the same as SN writing lyrics. Stevie's lyrics are usually pretty vague and can be interpreted in many different ways. Stevie has always shown alot of loyaty when it comes to divulging her bandmates secrets. CA sharing personal conversations and details about LB, his family, and his demons is very unloyal. For Cripes sakes, she even had to bring up Lindsey's brother and tell the world he has a prosthetic leg...something LB has never felt it necessary to share with his fan base. Interesting read but I don't have to like her motivations either.

Of course, CA can write whatever she wants....I think it is pretty lame to do at this point, when he is married and has little kids who will read this some day. I am sure you will bring up one or two things SN has said in thirty plus years that makes LB look bad but like I said, that doesn't compare to what CA did with her "book".

[Boots]

Years after their break-up she is saying Stevie was still jealous and tried to come between them. That she couldn't accept Carol was with Lindsey. But Stevie didn't care in the least that Lindsey was apparantly very sick? Either she exaggerated just how bad his condition was, she painted Stevie in a wrong picture or she downplayed the concern, but something is not adding up there. But I got that feeling concerning a lot of things.

Exactly! And that you for bringing that up. I meant to flesh that out in my post. If Stevie was so protective of her relationship with Lindsey, then why the hell is she painted as this uncaring, numb person during a traumatic moment? I know that it's likely that Stevie and Lindsey played up their breakup, but whether they did or not isn't the point here. The point is - their breakup was pretty fierce. It resonated between them for years. I can't accept that Stevie, no matter how pissed she was with him, wouldn't show a modicum of concern. That she was so far removed from the trauma - that Mick, John, Chris and the rest of the entourage were hanging by the door concerned (for selfish reasons perhaps, but they were still there), that the only time she gave a flying fig was when she told Carol about how her dog was spazzing and she didn't know what to do? That's all? I'm not saying Stevie is a saint. I know there was some bad blood between her and Lindsey, but I feel that something was missing here. Something doesn't add up. Or perhaps Stevie was so high at the time that she really floated in another world. Or perhaps Carol wasn't privy to a few behind the scenes moments when Stevie was indeed concerned about Lindsey and came by - while Carol was running around in her bare feet looking for a pharmacist all over Washington DC.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by Boots

Exactly! And that you for bringing that up. I meant to flesh that out in my post. If Stevie was so protective of her relationship with Lindsey, then why the hell is she painted as this uncaring, numb person during a traumatic moment? I know that it's likely that Stevie and Lindsey played up their breakup, but whether they did or not isn't the point here. The point is - their breakup was pretty fierce. It resonated between them for years. I can't accept that Stevie, no matter how pissed she was with him, wouldn't show a modicum of concern. That she was so far removed from the trauma - that Mick, John, Chris and the rest of the entourage were hanging by the door concerned (for selfish reasons perhaps, but they were still there), that the only time she gave a flying fig was when she told Carol about how her dog was spazzing and she didn't know what to do? That's all? I'm not saying Stevie is a saint. I know there was some bad blood between her and Lindsey, but I feel that something was missing here. Something doesn't add up. Or perhaps Stevie was so high at the time that she really floated in another world. Or perhaps Carol wasn't privy to a few behind the scenes moments when Stevie was indeed concerned about Lindsey and came by - while Carol was running around in her bare feet looking for a pharmacist all over Washington DC.

Indeed. You can clearly hear Stevie's concern about Lindsey on Mick's limo tapes. She is talking about his epilepsy and seems to fully understand what is wrong with him and what the treatment is. You can hear the concern in her voice....Mick and Chris aren't paying her any mind but Stevie is obviously worried about LB's current condition. CA doesn't include any talk of Stevie's concern in her "book" but rather chooses to tell the dog story. (something that probably DID happen when Stevie was coked up and drinking) Further, you can see Stevie rub LB's back on one of the Rumours bootlegs..the same show where she says "Lindsey is stttrrroooonggg".
Personally I think huge chunks of facts have been left out of the book on purpose.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Indeed. You can clearly hear Stevie's concern about Lindsey on Mick's limo tapes.

What are Mick's limo tapes and how can I view/hear them?

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Not the same and you know it. CA writing a trashy novel is not the same as SN writing lyrics. Stevie's lyrics are usually pretty vague and can be interpreted in many different ways. Stevie has always shown alot of loyaty when it comes to divulging her bandmates secrets. CA sharing personal conversations and details about LB, his family, and his demons is very unloyal. For Cripes sakes, she even had to bring up Lindsey's brother and tell the world he has a prosthetic leg...something LB has never felt it necessary to share with his fan base. Interesting read but I don't have to like her motivations either.

Absolutely; as I've said before, the argument that LB writes about her in his songs and thus makes money out of badmouthing her isn't a valid argument, because they're, as you say, vague and open to many interpreatations.

[strandinthewind]

He is not that kind to her in the songs and he openly discussed and some say slammed her in the BTM episode

But, and in any event, all parties here are airing their laundry in public and not just in songs. LB and La Nicks always use their "former relationship" and the drugs to sell their records. Hell, La Nicks is even rehashing hot pictures of herself from the latter part of that era to sell her current rehash

In the end, Carl Ann was there and it is her story to sell, just like La Nicks and LB use the goings on in that era to sell their current music.

[carol7lynn]

I respectfully disagree. CAH may have been there but she was not in the band. So what she has to say is just "second hand news!"

Her book is not a tell-all but a spiteful tell-on-you. There is a difference between artistic expression in a song-writers musing and mud-slinging for profit.

CarolC

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

. . . There is a difference between artistic expression in a song-writers musing and mud-slinging for profit . . . .

That is a subjective test at best.

Again, in the end, she is telling her story and it is her story to tell.

I get that I may not agree with her, but I cannot and will not fault her for telling it, esp. when La Nicks and LB talk about the hey day every chance they get (and in that they sling some mud) and Carol Ann has been discussed in those talks. She is allowed to respond

I think that people in general cannot stand that someone is seen as going against LB and La Nicks; like that is some form of sacrilege.

Anyway, to each their own

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

I respectfully disagree. CAH may have been there but she was not in the band. So what she has to say is just "second hand news!"

Her book is not a tell-all but a spiteful tell-on-you. There is a difference between artistic expression in a song-writers musing and mud-slinging for profit.

CarolC

Absolutely!


BTW, Strand...where did LB "slam" Stevie in his BTM? He said her spectre disabled several long term relationships he had. No slam there, just honesty. He focused on her quite a bit, interviewed her, gave them never before seen Fritz footage, used old personal photos of her.....I thought their relationship was presented honestly and sweetly. A few of his songs are spiteful, but so are Stevie's. There are many, many more lyrics that reflect deep longing and love. Even GYOW reflects that longing. "baby I will give you my world"....

[Rapunzel]

Originally Posted by carol7lynn

I respectfully disagree. CAH may have been there but she was not in the band. So what she has to say is just "second hand news!"

Her book is not a tell-all but a spiteful tell-on-you. There is a difference between artistic expression in a song-writers musing and mud-slinging for profit.

CarolC

Your jealousy is showing! Carol was in the inner circle and was Lindsey Buckingham's girlfriend for several years. Deal with it.

[Michelle Daya]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

He is not that kind to her in the songs and he openly discussed and some say slammed her in the BTM episode

But, and in any event, all parties here are airing their laundry in public and not just in songs. LB and La Nicks always use their "former relationship" and the drugs to sell their records. Hell, La Nicks is even rehashing hot pictures of herself from the latter part of that era to sell her current rehash

In the end, Carl Ann was there and it is her story to sell, just like La Nicks and LB use the goings on in that era to sell their current music.

could not agree more

[TrueFaith77]

I'm sorry I didn't check out this strand sooner! I've been dying to talk to someone about this book (I even just bought a copy for my mom so we can talk about it).

Anyway... I'm not sure where to begin except to say that I actually really like the book. It's clearly from one, limited, perhaps biased, perspective, so it doesn't fully satiate (I, took, wish Stevie, Lindsey, etc. would write their memoirs. . .but one might say that they have). However, there is insight here (her stories about the transformation of Lindsey's musical and stage persona) and intriguing archetypal references (I think John Boorman should make a movie of this book). And, yes, there's plenty of "I get credit for Lindsey shaving his beard" stuff, which I just take as silly, and doesn't that kind of thing kinda come with the rocknroll territory (I mean: there's a reason she and Lindsey got along). Anyway... I haven't yet finished the book, but I'm super glad I got it.