Omigod, this was my doctor!!

[amber]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

So far it is not confirmed that he was indeed in the CIA ..I would not be surprised if it were not true ..being in the CIA is a frequent grandiose delusion of mentally ill people and it appears he was mentally ill.

Yes, but...I thought it was confirmed third party. Wait...wait...yes, you are right. The only confirmation we have is from what he told people. What with their work with the overseas people and stuff, and some other evidence, I am at this juncture choosing to believe that he was in the CIA. It's all pretty weird, though, don't you think? I'm torn between believing that someone would SAY they were in the CIA when they were not, and the other evidence that indicates he might have been in the CIA. Okay, I guess that isn't really torn. I suppose I just can't imagine this particular person, and his wife, with their record of helping overseas people, pretending they were in the CIA. I mean, why bother? And their close ties with helping overseas people, and his/her long record of doing such, make me believe more that he was in the CIA.
And I see your point about crazy people saying they are in the CIA - but, he wasn't THAT crazy. He doesn't strike me as an especially delusional kind of crazy. Plus, he just told his friends/aquaintances he was in the CIA.

[BombaySapphire3]

Well obviously he was a very high functioning person as a doctor and I understand that you actually met him but having worked in psych wards for many years I have heard the CIA delusion ad nausem..it's right up under "I am God" ..I'm sure we'll find out more details but my hunch is that he was mentally ill and was not seeking any help for his problem and was probably in denial completely ..very tragic.

[gldstwmn]

This is tragic. The CIA thing could definitely be a red herring. Would they even confirm that he worked for them?

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

This is tragic. The CIA thing could definitely be a red herring. Would they even confirm that he worked for them?

He is dead so if he worked for them it wil likely come out ..even if he did I still maintain that he was certifible..those letters that he sent out apologizing for the killings and suicide before they happened ..way twisted IMO.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

He is dead so if he worked for them it wil likely come out ..even if he did I still maintain that he was certifible..those letters that he sent out apologizing for the killings and suicide before they happened ..way twisted IMO.

I agree. It was premeditated. Why couldn't he have left the wife and kids out of it?

[Betsy]

Suicide....one must be terribly low, distraught, and hopeless...not able to look to the future for comfort...to decide to kill oneself.

In the 80's I taught with a high school social studies teacher, who was a winning coach, and a very friendly guy. On a Saturday morning he went to get his haircut, got breakfast at the local Village Inn and then went home to commit suicide that afternoon. We all felt so guilty....like what could we have done to prevent it.

"Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."

Money isn't everything...and not worth giving ones life for it.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I agree. It was premeditated. Why couldn't he have left the wife and kids out of it?

That is precisely why I think he was very disturbed .suicide is one thing but to murder his family as well indicates he was really out there.

[gretchen]

oh my god, how awful. so tragic.