Alec Baldwin - 2007 Father of the Year....NOT!!!

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by skcin

Wow. So Dee's no longer a good person because she disagrees with you? Friends don't always have to agree with one another, they don't always have to back up what the other says. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of ganging up on you, or being on "their" side - whoever "they" is. Hi, paranoid. Dee has a difference of opinion than you (it appears most people do, in this thread at least.) So what? Why get so defensive & catty & tell her she's going to hell? WTF?

So, turning the phone call recording over to CPS or their caseworker or the judge or their therapist wouldn't have made her safer? That wouldn't have been enough?


And you may have bias? You're the one who brought up your son's case, then turned around & said it was different than this one. Apples & oranges, I believe you said. You keep implying that the rest of us don't care about the welfare of children because we haven't been through the system like you have (which, btw, you don't know for a fact - just because not everyone talks about it here doesn't mean they haven't had similar experiences), when all we're doing is trying to see both sides of the matter and not rush to judgment over 1 phone call. It's obvious to me that your past experience is making you totally biased against men. Somehow I'm sure this isn't the first time you've heard that.

Again, she did more than just disagree. She put words in my mouth I didnt say and then belittled those false statements.
I never said ALL women were saints. But Im the only one here who has even Given Kim the benefit of the doubt.

btw: who is a drunken slag or whore?

I find it funny that you even were able to TYPE that you're trying to see both sides of this situation; You've ALL blamed Kim from the beginning. And she did nothing wrong. We dont know WHO leaked the call, but the fact remains, ALEC is the one who blew it. Who is REALLY rushing to judgement here? Not only do you fault Kim, you fault ME and I've done nothing wrong either. Yeah, really objective the lot of you.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Again, she did more than just disagree. She put words in my mouth I didnt say and then belittled those false statements.
I never said ALL women were saints. But Im the only one here who has even Given Kim the benefit of the doubt.

btw: who is a drunken slag or whore?

I find it funny that you even were able to TYPE that you're trying to see both sides of this situation; You've ALL blamed Kim from the beginning. And she did nothing wrong. We dont know WHO leaked the call, but the fact remains, ALEC is the one who blew it. Who is REALLY rushing to judgement here? Not only do you fault Kim, you fault ME and I've done nothing wrong either. Yeah, really objective the lot of you.

Um. I never blamed Kim. I just didn't think it was necessary for this private matter to be made public for the world to see & hear. You never answered me - wouldn't it have helped Ireland to give the recording to the judge/CPS/caseworker etc? Was the relase to the media necessary to protect the child?

And we call Carrie's mom a whore all the time. You seem to think you know everything else about Carrie, I'm surprised you don't remember that fakt. Carrie was bringing up some attributes that make people poor moms (to argue your assertion that someone who gives birth to a child could never use that child as a pawn in a fight with their ex) and she forgot a couple. I'm sure I'll think of more.....