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Old 04-11-2007, 02:38 AM
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Hey, I love Chris A LOT--as everyone here knows. But I've seen/read a few homophobic statements from her that piss me off...there's that negative lesbian comment from a 1976 (?) People Magazine article, and then there's the flamboyant video producer in the Love Will Show Us How video (hardy har har)...and now this? Hey, I don't love--or even like--Status Quo, but come on. She's got to know a large number of gay men love her. And many of those gay men are pretty darn feminine.
The "ponces" quote was made a long time ago. Back in the sixties homosexual men were not "gay" they were known as "poofs" (in the UK). But back then you could get away with calling black people n*gg*rs. Times have changed (thank goodness)

I agree that the lesbian comment in People Magazine was unecessary but it honestly did not occur to me that the producer from Love Will Show us How was supposed to be gay.

I don't think that a couple of comments, the last one being more than 30 years ago, makes a case for Chris being homophobic.

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Old 04-11-2007, 05:30 AM
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The "ponces" quote was made a long time ago. Back in the sixties homosexual men were not "gay" they were known as "poofs" (in the UK). But back then you could get away with calling black people n*gg*rs. Times have changed (thank goodness)

I agree that the lesbian comment in People Magazine was unecessary but it honestly did not occur to me that the producer from Love Will Show us How was supposed to be gay.

I don't think that a couple of comments, the last one being more than 30 years ago, makes a case for Chris being homophobic.

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Yes, all of those comments were from long, long ago, back in the 1960's, 1970's & 1980's. I don't like them either, but times were different then. Remember that picture of Chris made up like Aunt Jemima? I consider that racist & I find it embarrassing. She definitely wasn't politically correct then, but at that time nobody else was either. Times have changed. Look at Don Imus now.

By the way, that guy in the "Love Will Show Us How" video was Paul Bartel. He was gay & eventually died of AIDS.

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Old 04-11-2007, 06:24 AM
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Yes, all of those comments were from long, long ago, back in the 1960's, 1970's & 1980's. I don't like them either, but times were different then. Remember that picture of Chris made up like Aunt Jemima? I consider that racist & I find it embarrassing. She definitely wasn't politically incorrect then, but at that time nobody else was either. Times have changed. Look at Don Imus now.

By the way, that guy in the "Love Will Show Us How" video was Paul Bartel. He was gay & eventually died of AIDS.
I'd forgotten about the Aunt Jemina incident - yes that was embarassing. But as you say people were unthinkingly racist, sexist and homophobic in those days.

I think sometimes political correctness can go too far. We have local councils in England not wanting to have "Christmas lights" in case that offends muslims. It doesn't actually offend the muslim community at all but some one clearly thinks it would.

It can be taken too far but on the whole I think things are better now.

I can't speak for Christine obviously but I think the "ponces" comment was made as a reaction to their stage clothes which were a little effeminate when they are not effeminate men. So I would say she thought they were trying to look like soemthing they weren't. Just my opinion.

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Remember that picture of Chris made up like Aunt Jemima?

Wasn't John dressed up as a Nazi stormtrooper in that same photo? The whole BAND wasn't PC.
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Wasn't John dressed up as a Nazi stormtrooper in that same photo? The whole BAND wasn't PC.
Yes he was...and his wife is Jewish.
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Yes, all of those comments were from long, long ago, back in the 1960's, 1970's & 1980's. I don't like them either, but times were different then. Remember that picture of Chris made up like Aunt Jemima? I consider that racist & I find it embarrassing. She definitely wasn't politically incorrect then, but at that time nobody else was either. Times have changed. Look at Don Imus now.

By the way, that guy in the "Love Will Show Us How" video was Paul Bartel. He was gay & eventually died of AIDS.
Thanks Mac Fan...you are a veritable encyclopedia of Chrisology!
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