sorry-just let me vent, b*tch, rant..whatever you want to call it..

michelle2677 · #1 12-01-2006, 02:58 PM

alright. So I've been at my job for 9 1/2 years. I started right out of high school and have loved it ever since. Granted, there have been some ups and downs. It took me a couple of years to build up the confidence that I could actually do this and to be able to put up with my boss. SO. I have been his right hand "woman" for all this time. He raves about me. Tells me I'm the best assistant he's ever known. I have made several temporary crowns for people, then they would have to go see a specialist for whatever reason. These dentists are calling telling him it was the best temporary they have ever seen, etc. blah blah. One guy even had to double check the chart and ask the patient because he couldn't tell the difference from mine and the real tooth.

I'm basically the office manager (although I have never been given that title NOR the $$$$ it's just something I do ). I'm the person that has to go around behind everyone and "clean up" where they F*CK up. I've been there the longest, so everyone comes to ME, not him if they ever have a question about....anything. They don't go to him because he either a. makes them feel like a complete idiot, or b. he confuses them so much because he is wishy washy, they are more confused than when they went in there. and then my favorite. When it's 5:30 and everyone else is walking out the door and we still have a patient..who do you think stays?? well, they can't come to the back and help, so it's me. And I've always been fine doing it (even though I bitched about having to stay until 7:00 pm tuesday) I never get an hour lunch because it's "the nature of my job" and always the last to leave... I'm saying all of this because of the following. I just found out another employee (who I have to basically train-even though she does financial arrangements, and I'm clinical) is making...oh...8 dollars more than me.

and she doesnt' do jack ****.

SO. yeah. that's my problem. So now for the solution. I can either quit and not give a reason. hey, he screwed me over so screw him.
OR-quit and tell him why.
OR. basically tell him if she is worth more to him than me, then when it comes 5:00, I'm walking out the door and her ass can get up and come to the back and help him finish. After all...she IS more valuable.

There are a LOT of things that he has done over the years but this one takes the cake. So.....thanks for letting me vent. I'm just....slightly pissed....

strandinthewind · #2 12-01-2006, 03:01 PM

Wait 24 hours to calm down and then ask him for a raise. If he says no, then quietly start looking for another job as you likely will need him for a reference and it usually is much easier to get a job when you have a job.

DrummerDeanna · #3 12-01-2006, 03:04 PM

Geez..I wish you'd stop whining, Michelle.

Just kidding - that actually really does suck and it's completely unfair.

Now the two options you gave - could there be a third in which you talk to your boss about this? Or do you not have that kind of relationship? I don't think it's ever easy to talk to superiors about money, but sometimes you just gotta do it.

Do you get annual raises and stuff - and are they fair? Why is this chick making more than you..is it an education thing? A training thing?

I would be pissed too...I mean you've been there for 9.5 years AND had to train this girl? That's crap....and your boss should know that...

So I'd say if you stick to your scenarious I'd go the quit and tell him why route...

michelle2677 · #4 12-01-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Wait 24 hours to calm down and then ask him for a raise. If he says no, then quietly start looking for another job as you likely will need him for a reference and it usually is much easier to get a job when you have a job.

I have plenty of references. My uncle is a dentist and has seen me work. Also I have several hygienists. The (only) problem is...I will have to go to evansville (30 minutes away) to get a job. NO dentist in my town will hire me because they know how long I've been there. and any dentist that would do that to him, I dont' want to work for anyway. So I have to go away for a few years, then come back. We just talked yesterday and we talked a little about money. I'm happy with what I make. I make decent money compared to most other assistants (but they aren't as good as me..

j/k) and it's not even really about the money, although it sounds like it. It's that he places so much responsibility on me, and depends on me to scratch his ass. I can't take a day off without them calling me.."where is this..how do I do this" but when push comes to shove...I see where the value is placed.

thank you for your advice, and I will give it some time.

michelle2677 · #5 12-01-2006, 03:10 PM

one other thing. in our office we aren't supposed to talk about how much we make (now I f*cking know why...he's screwing us!!!

) So I can't just go to him and be like.."she makes more than me"....) I found out through not so honorable sources....so...

and deanna-kiss my ass!!!!

sara1998 · #6 12-01-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Wait 24 hours to calm down and then ask him for a raise. If he says no, then quietly start looking for another job as you likely will need him for a reference and it usually is much easier to get a job when you have a job.

I agree completly. Move to Indianapolis... no dentists know you here!!!

DrummerDeanna · #7 12-01-2006, 03:12 PM

Sorry.

Hmm....well you could broach the subject without bringing up the other chippy and what she makes.

But I think Jason's on to something - wait a bit and cool down, see how you feel tomorrow...

Or Monday rather...

michelle2677 · #8 12-01-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Sorry.

Hmm....well you could broach the subject without bringing up the other chippy and what she makes.

But I think Jason's on to something - wait a bit and cool down, see how you feel tomorrow...

Or Monday rather...

I know.....I thought about when we discuss money again, and he always asks me if I think what I make is fair..i can just say.."I do. But if I find out anyone (other than the hygienist..that's a given) makes more than me...I won't stay" I think that's fair.

ESPECIALLY 8 damn dollars.....and I make decent jack.

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Originally Posted by sara1998

I agree completly. Move to Indianapolis... no dentists know you here!!!

ha!! ..said girl just MOVED from Indy!!! maybe I'll get a job 30 minutes away the OTHER way....man if I get a job in INDIANA.....I would be part hoosier...

I can't have that!!!

bretonbanquet · #9 12-01-2006, 03:17 PM

You've proved what I always thought - the better you are at your job, the more people take advantage of you and the more they expect you to actually do...

And my other theory - the less people do, the more they get paid.

Anyway, this is your rant, not mine

I would bite your lip and ask nicely for a raise - a decent one, and have ready a long list of points to bring up if your request is rejected. That should hopefully initiate a cordial discussion about what you're worth - and if you don't get proper recognition then maybe start looking for work elsewhere. As long as there's no animosity you'll still get a good reference from them or else they can stuff up your jobsearch.

Anyway, I've seen your picture and I reckon you're worth a big pay raise

(That's my "typical male" superficial comment for the week)

sara1998 · #10 12-01-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677

ha!! ..said girl just MOVED from Indy!!! maybe I'll get a job 30 minutes away the OTHER way....man if I get a job in INDIANA.....I would be part hoosier...

I can't have that!!!

Then you moved in the wrong direction, sweetheart! I'd rather be part Hoosier then part Kentuckian...

michelle2677 · #11 12-01-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sara1998

Then you moved in the wrong direction, sweetheart! I'd rather be part Hoosier then part Kentuckian...

you b*tch!! You're just jealous you don't have this sexy accent!!!

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Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

You've proved what I always thought - the better you are at your job, the more people take advantage of you and the more they expect you to actually do...

And my other theory - the less people do, the more they get paid.

Anyway, this is your rant, not mine

I would bite your lip and ask nicely for a raise - a decent one, and have ready a long list of points to bring up if your request is rejected. That should hopefully initiate a cordial discussion about what you're worth - and if you don't get proper recognition then maybe start looking for work elsewhere. As long as there's no animosity you'll still get a good reference from them or else they can stuff up your jobsearch.

Anyway, I've seen your picture and I reckon you're worth a big pay raise

(That's my "typical male" superficial comment for the week)

exactly. and please-rant away. and I know if I went to him and said.."I want to make xxx amount an hour" he would give it to me. But I don't see him paying me this. It's an ungodly amount even for what "I'M" doing..I don't even think I could keep a straight face asking for that much.

and thank you..that is very sweet

maybe I'll wear a low cut shirt when I go in and ask about the raise...

and take jazzy's advice on how to make boobs out of nothing....(well...basically..

)

sara1998 · #12 12-01-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677

you b*tch!! You're just jealous you don't have this sexy accent!!!

I.Hate.You.

It is rather cute...

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Originally Posted by michelle2677

maybe I'll wear a low cut shirt when I go in and ask about the raise...

and take jazzy's advice on how to make boobs out of nothing....(well...basically..

)

Tee hee hee... Yes, maybe there is some seduction in the office you don't know about. Get you some....

DrummerDeanna · #13 12-01-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by michelle2677

you b*tch!! You're just jealous you don't have this sexy accent!!!

exactly. and please-rant away. and I know if I went to him and said.."I want to make xxx amount an hour" he would give it to me. But I don't see him paying me this. It's an ungodly amount even for what "I'M" doing..I don't even think I could keep a straight face asking for that much.

Would you stay happily for a smaller raise? I mean you still wouldn't be making as much as the other chippy - but at least you'd be making more? I know this isn't about money...but I dunno...ya gotta do what makes you happy