McCartney divorce getting ugly

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Serrart

If she really had dangerous tapes for him we wouldn't have heard a word about all this mess. He would have paid on the spot. And this won't end up in court , IMO, if she doesn't want to be publicly destroyed. Truth doesn't really counts at this point, tactic does. And using the News of The World he reminded her that he can totally trash her not even opening his mouth.

Romy

he may be firing shots across her bow, but I didnt see anything in there that could damage HER, there were no accusations that she slapped/hit him, only yelled at him, and MAYBE threw a ketchup bottle at him...looks to me like a lot of the action occurred behind closed doors and in that case its a he said/she said situation.

Im telling you, audio and video tapes can be devastating. I wonder if she secretly had security cameras installed with the intent of getting these fights on film?

there IS one area where Heather did goof and thats by leaving Paul to care for the baby. THAT will hurt her, IMO

[Street Angel]

And here's some more evidence that Heather is telling the truth as always. Take 3 1/2 minutes of your time and watch this tribute to Saint Heather. I hope that clears up any confusion about her intentions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08UZzsL57ZE

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Street Angel

And here's some more evidence that Heather is telling the truth as always. Take 3 1/2 minutes of your time and watch this tribute to Saint Heather. I hope that clears up any confusion about her intentions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08UZzsL57ZE

yep that wuz some stellar moviemaking alright. Some people need to get a DIFFERENT hobby.

[Street Angel]

Oh well, it was only meant to lighten up the discussion a bit.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

he may be firing shots across her bow, but I didnt see anything in there that could damage HER, there were no accusations that she slapped/hit him, only yelled at him, and MAYBE threw a ketchup bottle at him...looks to me like a lot of the action occurred behind closed doors and in that case its a he said/she said situation.

Im telling you, audio and video tapes can be devastating. I wonder if she secretly had security cameras installed with the intent of getting these fights on film?

there IS one area where Heather did goof and thats by leaving Paul to care for the baby. THAT will hurt her, IMO

I doubt she could install something in that house. There are probably regular controls by McCartney security people and possibly he's also in the list of British VIPs who are even under the eye of Secret Service.

I'm sure it wasn't a very calm marriage but in the public eye he's seen almost as a saint and she as a witch with a past as a call girl. She could go on attacking if she wanted only the money but if she wants to have some kind of future as a public figure she has to stop. Moreover Murdoch already proved he'll be on MacCartney's side.

Romy

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Serrart

I doubt she could install something in that house. There are probably regular controls by McCartney security people and possibly he's also in the list of British VIPs who are even under the eye of Secret Service.

I'm sure it wasn't a very calm marriage but in the public eye he's seen almost as a saint and she as a witch with a past as a call girl. She could go on attacking if she wanted only the money but if she want to have some kind of future as a public figure she has to stop. Murdoch already proved which is his side.

Romy

GAWD. Murdoch. That stalwart supporter of all thats good and decent. *coughsnickerchortle* Nuff Said.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Street Angel

Oh well, it was only meant to lighten up the discussion a bit.

I suppose it does have a slight hee haw factor that one image of the girl in pigtails with the gruesome face, just EWWWWWWW

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

GAWD. Murdoch. That stalwart supporter of all thats good and decent. *coughsnickerchortle* Nuff Said.

I agree, but you need him if you want to win a mediatic war.

Romy

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Serrart

I agree, but you need him if you want to win a mediatic war.

Romy

not always. at least, I think I see signs that may be changing here.

[Street Angel]

This is not a personal attack on you at all, irishgrl, but in general I'm starting to get the feeling that in these days of political correctness being completely over the top, the equation is always "woman + claim of abuse = truth", where the man can do whatever he wants, he will always be the evil guy. Even in the case of this woman who did not even hesitate to tell defaming lies about her own family.

If I'm now nominated for the "Golden Pig" award for this year's most chauvinistic statement on the Ledge, so be it.

P.S. And I totally agree with Romy - if she really had these tapes, McCartney wouldn't have hesitated for a single second and paid her a lot, just to make sure she doesn't destroy his image with the recordings. Instead he said "Bring them on", and he knows why.

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

not always. at least, I think I see signs that may be changing here.

I hope so, but, for this particularly case it seems very unlikely she has a chance without some allies. We'll see.

Romy

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Street Angel

This is not a personal attack on you at all, irishgrl, but in general I'm starting to get the feeling that in these days of political correctness being completely over the top, the equation is always "woman + claim of abuse = truth", where the man can do whatever he wants, he will always be the evil guy. Even in the case of this woman who did not even hesitate to tell defaming lies about her own family.

If I'm now nominated for the "Golden Pig" award for this year's most chauvinistic statement on the Ledge, so be it.

P.S. And I totally agree with Romy - if she really had these tapes, McCartney wouldn't have hesitated for a single second and paid her a lot, just to make sure she doesn't destroy his image with the recordings. Instead he said "Bring them on", and he knows why.

I dont think you are being chauvinistic at all

Im not saying Heather is blameless, all Im saying is I dont understand the automatic assumption that SHE'S the one at fault Again, I said I can certainly see a depressed man being drunk/violent/abusive. I dont think Paul is a bad person at ALL! I've always admired the man! But there may be more to this than meets the eye ya know?

As for Paul being willing to pay any price to make her go away, I think in the beginning that was what he said he would do...and it looked like they were pretty close to actually settling amicably. Why she's now trotting out these tapes I dont know, but I think its a safe bet to say she is upping the ante and is very well aware of what she's up against, Im sure of it.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Serrart

I hope so, but, for this particularly case it seems very unlikely she has a chance without some allies. We'll see.

Romy

well, there are apparently witnesses for her side as well. She's aware public sentiment is stacked against her, Paul's a BEATLE for heaven's sake! a KNIGHT of the Realm! a Friggin ICON! and she? just a footnote in history.

[Street Angel]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

I dont think you are being chauvinistic at all

Im not saying Heather is blameless, all Im saying is I dont understand the automatic assumption that SHE'S the one at fault Again, I said I can certainly see a depressed man being drunk/violent/abusive. I dont think Paul is a bad person at ALL! I've always admired the man! But there may be more to this than meets the eye ya know?

As for Paul being willing to pay any price to make her go away, I think in the beginning that was what he said he would do...and it looked like they were pretty close to actually settling amicably. Why she's now trotting out these tapes I dont know, but I think its a safe bet to say she is upping the ante and is very well aware of what she's up against, Im sure of it.

Thanks for clearing this up, finally I *completely* understand what you meant. You're right, automatic assumptions are a dangerous thing, too - and of course a depressed man is capable of being cruel etc.

My problems with Heather's side of the story are her past and her timing. With "her past" I don't mean these silly pics of hers (why would anyone get upset about THAT?), but the fact that she has hurt a lot of people with her lies and that all these people have said that Heather will use every weapon to get what she wants. Sort of "If I can't win them over, I'll kill them"
And second, the timing makes her points very unbelievable - for months she has let her PR people leak stories about her that presented Heather as the miserable wife who is crying her eyes out because hubby left her. All this wonderful love of hers that the heartless and ungrateful McCartney wouldn't appreciate anymore (that's the gist of the stories by Mills' PR people). She would even stage these coincidental ( ) opportunities for paparazzi where she was the shocked damsel in distress, being locked out of her own home by her ruthless husband etc.

Why would anyone who has been abused so many times want to return, and even cry buckets of tears and lose several pounds because her husband doesn't want her back?

When all these stories, deliberate off-the-record statements of "close friends and insiders" and photos backfired and she was under attack even more, she now came out with a story which shows a lot of contradictions (McCartney's lawyers are closely studying her latest book and interviews for a good reason). To say it in one sentence: She's playing the sympathy/victim card once more, only with a different strategy. The biggest mistake Paul and his lawyers have probably made is to underestimate this street-wise woman.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Street Angel

Thanks for clearing this up, finally I *completely* understand what you meant. You're right, automatic assumptions are a dangerous thing, too - and of course a depressed man is capable of being cruel etc.

My problems with Heather's side of the story are her past and her timing. With "her past" I don't mean these silly pics of hers (why would anyone get upset about THAT?), but the fact that she has hurt a lot of people with her lies and that all these people have said that Heather will use every weapon to get what she wants. Sort of "If I can't win them over, I'll kill them"
And second, the timing makes her points very unbelievable - for months she has let her PR people leak stories about her that presented Heather as the miserable wife who is crying her eyes out because hubby left her. All this wonderful love of hers that the heartless and ungrateful McCartney wouldn't appreciate anymore (that's the gist of the stories by Mills' PR people). She would even stage these coincidental ( ) opportunities for paparazzi where she was the shocked damsel in distress, being locked out of her own home by her ruthless husband etc.

Why would anyone who has been abused so many times want to return, and even cry buckets of tears and lose several pounds because her husband doesn't want her back?

When all these stories, deliberate off-the-record statements of "close friends and insiders" and photos backfired and she was under attack even more, she now came out with a story which shows a lot of contradictions (McCartney's lawyers are closely studying her latest book and interviews for a good reason). To say it in one sentence: She's playing the sympathy/victim card once more, only with a different strategy. The biggest mistake Paul and his lawyers have probably made is to underestimate this street-wise woman.

very valid points hopefully this all goes away because Gawd knows, that poor little baby doesnt need to be seeing mommy and daddy at loggerheads