Mom gets photos of son missing for 24 years

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

We should add that phrase to the rules.

Totally. It was part of our training at a diverse company I used to work for. They were very focused on team work.

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Totally. It was part of our training at a diverse company I used to work for. They were very focused on team work.

I am getting a Gannon is Gosch T-shirt made... J/K

[JunkFoodGenius]

Who gave her the picture? I'm betting on the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson...

Interesting read - though my brain sort of began to hurt when I read "Satanist pedophiles" and the human sacrifices in front of the owl statue in Sacramento...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by JunkFoodGenius

Who gave her the picture? I'm betting on the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson...

Interesting read - though my brain sort of began to hurt when I read "Satanist pedophiles" and the human sacrifices in front of the owl statue in Sacramento...

It's a lot to digest all in one sitting.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by JunkFoodGenius

Who gave her the picture? I'm betting on the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson...

Interesting read - though my brain sort of began to hurt when I read "Satanist pedophiles" and the human sacrifices in front of the owl statue in Sacramento...

um....I hate to tell you this but that stuff DOES happen. In my work as a child advocate I met a wonderful woman who was a victim of satanic ritual abuse.
This woman has made it her life's work to advocate for all children and educate the public as to the realities of the sorts of abuse that DOES go on.

By the way, there is another line of thinking that believes that children are placed in foster homes (or otherwise removed from parental care) and placed into the circles of child slavery abroad. I dont know how true this really is, but at a seminar I attended (hosted by a CA senator) there was a well respected private investigator that had ample evidence of slavery rings that operate out of Europe and Asia and are supplied with "displaced" kids from America. If its true its absolutely deplorable.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

It's a lot to digest all in one sitting.

I found it riveting

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by JunkFoodGenius

Who gave her the picture? I'm betting on the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson...

Interesting read - though my brain sort of began to hurt when I read "Satanist pedophiles" and the human sacrifices in front of the owl statue in Sacramento...

Not Sacramento, Bohemian Grove. The fact that Paul Bonacci referenced the statue- something someone his age would most likely never heard of (heck, try to find a clear/non surveillance picture of it on the internet), helps to corroborate his story.

http://www.franklincase.org/ is an incredible resource on this fascinating case. The "Conspiracy of Silence" documentary is riveting.

[LukeA]

Originally Posted by GODDESS6

i live in omaha, nebraska where the frankilin credit union/child pornograpy/exploitation happened~ it was a huge horrble thing~ it is still brought up from time to time because of our connection w/ johnny gosch & other children involved~ there was a huge media spectacle here last week, w/ alot of the people involved who are known talking about it all once again~ it is just so unreal that something like this could happen & so tremendously heartbreaking for the parents left behind~

It's horrifying.

So many of the Omaha figures that were named in the investigation are still prominent members in the community- PJ Morgan, Harold Andersen... at least Larry is no longer in the Omaha area, right?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

I found it riveting

So did I. And I had about five more links that I didn't even include.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by LukeA

Not Sacramento, Bohemian Grove. The fact that Paul Bonacci referenced the statue- something someone his age would most likely never heard of (heck, try to find a clear/non surveillance picture of it on the internet), helps to corroborate his story.

http://www.franklincase.org/ is an incredible resource on this fascinating case. The "Conspiracy of Silence" documentary is riveting.

I watched Conspiracy Of Silence on YouTube about a week ago. And I agree, Bohemian Grove is not something that someone is likely to pluck out of thin air. I'm very disturbed by the whole Hunter Thompson snuff film thing as well. The man was a gun nut but Jesus Christ I hope it was someone using a pseudonym or a case of mistaken identity on Paul Bonacci's part.

[jannieC]

Can someone give me a quick breakdown of the story? I tried to read the whole thing, but ended up getting pulled away. If it's too complicated, I understand. I just had a hell of a time following that story- the writing was kind of ???

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by LukeA

It's horrifying.

So many of the Omaha figures that were named in the investigation are still prominent members in the community- PJ Morgan, Harold Andersen... at least Larry is no longer in the Omaha area, right?

i found this on larry, it is from 2001: Lawrence E. King Jr., the main figure in the Franklin Credit Union scandal in Omaha more than a decade ago, has left prison and apparently is planning to live near Washington, D.C.



King was released from federal prison in Colorado on Tuesday after serving nearly 10 years of a 15-year sentence.





~ i do know he had a wife who was prominent here also & she was in our women's prison for meth, she moved out of the state upon her release from prison, i am pretty sure they divorced~ it is all still brought up from time to time~ last week 1 of our 5 o'clock news channels had johnny's mom on it, they retraced what they think happened that day & showed her holding the pictures that were at her front door, they looked to be 8x10 size~ the mom seems to think they came from some one connected to all this, such as another victim like her son was & that they risked their life going to her home & leaving these~ the reported said something to the effect that they think they case is about to be blown wide open they didn't elaborate tho~

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

So did I. And I had about five more links that I didn't even include.

INCLUDE THEM!!!

[estranged4life]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14818169/

Mom received pictures of bound, gagged boys after son disappeared in 1982

DES MOINES, Iowa - The photos of bound and gagged boys that were sent to an Iowa woman whose son disappeared 24 years ago were investigated in the late 1970s and are not her missing son, a retired Florida sheriff's investigator said Wednesday.

Nelson Zalva, who now works for the Hillsborough County, Fla., State Attorney's Office, said he investigated the same photos while working for the county's sheriff in 1978 or 1979.

"I remember this case," he said. "I identified the kids portrayed in the photos. It was definitely investigated by me several years prior to the disappearance of Johnny Gosch."

The photos were in an envelope left at the West Des Moines home of Johnny's mother, Noreen Gosch, on Aug. 27.

One photo, in black and white, shows a boy bound and gagged on a bed. Another is a color photo of the same boy in a similar pose with two others boys.

Noreen Gosch turned the photos over to police, who have been investigating the authenticity of the photos and any connection her son.

One of first faces on milk cartoons
Johnny was 12 when he disappeared from his neighborhood before daybreak on Sept. 5, 1982. His photo was became one of the first of a missing child to be put on a milk carton. Police have said they believe he was abducted but they have few clues.

Zalva said his investigation never resulted in an arrest because the children in the photos never admitted that the suspect touched them inappropriately. He said the boys in the photos had voluntarily posed for the photos, but he couldn't recall why.

"Basically, what happened is someone, maybe it was one of the parents, found the photos and called the sheriff's office and deputies went out there, impounded the photos and the case was assigned to me for investigation," Zalva said. "I worked a long time on it, getting the kids identified."

Lt. Jeff Miller, a West Des Moines Police spokesman, said the investigation is continuing into who left the photos at Noreen Gosch's house.

"If they are not of Johnny Gosch, someone is playing a horrible prank," he said.

Miller said Gosch has been informed of the Florida investigation.

A telephone message left Wednesday morning for Gosch was not immediately returned.

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[BlackWidow]

It is a fascinating case!