Pet Peeves

ragandbone · #1 08-28-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

My pet peeves are bad/ignorant parents. If your kid just happens to be spawned from the bowels of hell and insists on running your life at the age of three, then step up, be an adult, and do something about it. I saw a mom at the grocery store shrug off a fellow shopper's complaint when her kid was screaming his head off because he didn't get a candy bar. She shrugged it off like she didn't know what to do.

Well, I agree with you about parents ignoring their wild-running children in stores, and I was neve alowed to run around in stores or restaurants, or even to speak around adults, unless spoken to. But, supposedly I just had a compliant temperment.
I have a little something to say about that candy, though. First off, I don't give my son candy bars, and we don't eat them either, but he has tried to grab a pack of candy form the bottom display, and then cried when I told him "no." I needed to pay for my purchases, so we all had to suffer another 30 seconds of horrible whining and crying. If a child wants a candy bar, and gets so upset that they scream, then a spanking isn't going to stop it, unless you knock them unconscious. A child's brain chemistry doesn't accomodate impulse control, or delayed gratification, that supposedly happens with mature brains. If the parent can, they should take the kid outside, but you know, sometimes parents have to eat too, and they might have to keep shopping. Now, if you want to complain, please walk right up to the MGR, and tell them to STOP PUTTING CANDY DISPLAYS AT TODDLER HEIGHT! They are on the bottom shelves for one reason only, and that is to tempt little children, and it just plain SUCKS!

Call marketing candy to children a pet peeve of mine.

mikeschmike · #2 08-28-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ragandbone

If a child wants a candy bar, and gets so upset that they scream, then a spanking isn't going to stop it, unless you knock them unconscious. A child's brain chemistry doesn't accomodate impulse control, or delayed gratification, that supposedly happens with mature brains. If the parent can, they should take the kid outside, but you know, sometimes parents have to eat too, and they might have to keep shopping.

Back in the day, I was told once that I couldn't have it, and if I kept up I was brought out to the car where my ass was thoroughly whooped. I'm not saying that is the best way all of the time (although sometimes it is deserved with the mouths on these kids today) but I think that once kids know they can get the upper hand, it's over. My sister is a good example. She would push and push until finally my Dad would give in just to shut her up. Now she's nothing short of high maintenence, and will still do the big song and dance until she gets her way...at age 26.

So I agree with you to a point. Sure, the candy shouldn't be so accessible, but since young kids aren't spending the money, it ultimately falls onto the parents to put their foot down and not back down from the dreaded "no."

PsychCat · #3 08-28-2006, 08:53 PM

People who work on staff at a psych hospital who better qualify as a patient!!

(did that come across as frustrating or bitter??)

ragandbone · #4 08-28-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

Back in the day, I was told once that I couldn't have it, and if I kept up I was brought out to the car where my ass was thoroughly whooped. I'm not saying that is the best way all of the time (although sometimes it is deserved with the mouths on these kids today) but I think that once kids know they can get the upper hand, it's over. My sister is a good example. She would push and push until finally my Dad would give in just to shut her up. Now she's nothing short of high maintenence, and will still do the big song and dance until she gets her way...at age 26.

So I agree with you to a point. Sure, the candy shouldn't be so accessible, but since young kids aren't spending the money, it ultimately falls onto the parents to put their foot down and not back down from the dreaded "no."

I want to make sure you know that you have a right to your pet peeve—not trying to devalue the peeve.
Yes, not backing down is key, and I certainly wasn't suggesting that accessibility to candy means a parent has to give in (I never have yet, but I have had to leave many a drugstore or grocery in mid purchase) I just meant that stores know the kids will see and grab that candy, and they are hoping a parent will be embarrassed, and just buy it. Maybe we should be sure we are talking about the same age of child, because any parent "whooping" a 2 or 3 year old for crying over not getting candy would likely have their child taken away by CPS. Kids just periodically fall apart, whether because they are tired or hungry or hurting, and smart responsible parents will try to avoid shopping at high risk times, but sometimes that can't be avoided.
I really dislike elderly, and even find myself getting annoyed at handicapped people (gasp) but as I have gotten older, and have started to see how feeling physically crummy can make your personality crummy, I am trying to be a little more compassionate. Unless you are parking your SUV in a compact spot, and then I might have to pee on your car

mikeschmike · #5 08-28-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ragandbone

I want to make sure you know that you have a right to your pet peeve—not trying to devalue the peeve.
Yes, not backing down is key, and I certainly wasn't suggesting that accessibility to candy means a parent has to give in (I never have yet, but I have had to leave many a drugstore or grocery in mid purchase) I just meant that stores know the kids will see and grab that candy, and they are hoping a parent will be embarrassed, and just buy it. Maybe we should be sure we are talking about the same age of child, because any parent "whooping" a 2 or 3 year old for crying over not getting candy would likely have their child taken away by CPS. Kids just periodically fall apart, whether because they are tired or hungry or hurting, and smart responsible parents will try to avoid shopping at high risk times, but sometimes that can't be avoided.

No, I don't feel devalued or anything of the sort. Just making good conversation

. The age of the children I was referring to was at least five. Usually the kindergarten age is when the cuteness fades and you can tell that the kid is just plain bad.

Red · #6 08-28-2006, 10:19 PM

A couple more grievances...

-when a person says something ****ty to you and then quickly follows it up with "just kidding", like it's all okay. I knew a girl who did this all the time. Like, "hey, are you ever having a bad hair day. Just kidding!!" I had to bit my tongue to a nub to not shoot back with "you're fat and ugly and stupid.....just kidding!!"....just to make my goddam point.

-new money. Actually, new money people. Old money is always more respectful and less snooty.

-people with the sniffles who just don't understand that a kleenez really is the answer. Quit sniffing, its gross.

-lol. I don't know why. I'm alright with omg and brb and imho and ttyl and wtf, but for whatever reason, I can't stand lol. Just bugs the piss outta me.

ragandbone · #7 08-28-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

No, I don't feel devalued or anything of the sort. Just making good conversation

. The age of the children I was referring to was at least five. Usually the kindergarten age is when the cuteness fades and you can tell that the kid is just plain bad.

AFTER THE CUTENESS FADES
Well I never thought I'd make it to the checkout line
I never thought I'd make it there today
Everything the children touched they had to have
what they seemed to want, well you know they'd find a way
For me its the ugliest sound that I've ever known
the howling is just one small aisle away
get me through this shopping and get me through the line
The parent's to blame even after the cuteness fades.

SuzeQuze · #8 08-29-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

No, I don't feel devalued or anything of the sort. Just making good conversation

. The age of the children I was referring to was at least five. Usually the kindergarten age is when the cuteness fades and you can tell that the kid is just plain bad.

No, it's still the parent! True autonomy isn't really there until about 4th grade and even then you still have lots of influence.

mikeschmike · #9 08-29-2006, 11:36 AM

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No, it's still the parent! True autonomy isn't really there until about 4th grade and even then you still have lots of influence.

You sound like you're way more educated on the subject then I am. I was just explaining the age of a child to where certain behavior would not be tolerable. A screaming two year old is inevitable, but a five or six year old throwing a demonic fit is an issue. That's all I was saying.

SuzeQuze · #10 08-29-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeschmike

You sound like you're way more educated on the subject then I am. I was just explaining the age of a child to where certain behavior would not be tolerable. A screaming two year old is inevitable, but a five or six year old throwing a demonic fit is an issue. That's all I was saying.

I see what you're saying. A screaming 5 year old doesn't fit the normal development you would expect which is likely due to indulgent parenting so you've made my point. Hehe. But yeah, I did take developmental psych and kids are just not fully accountable for their actions because they are still learning and growing.

SuzeQuze · #11 08-29-2006, 11:17 AM

Cilantro on my margerita pizza. I think the pizza lady has lost it and thinks it's basil. I tiny bit would be enough but there was a bush on my slice. You dirty birdies, that's not what I meant!