Sources: Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey case

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

The one thing that always puzzled me about the ransom note:

The ransom amount of $118,000

Seems more than coincidental that the $118,000 figure is the exact amount that Jon Ramsey would make as a bonus through his business.

Who exactly knew that amount besides Jon Ramsey?

This is why the Karr thing doesn't make sense. How would he know about that amount? Yet, if John Ramsey were involved, why would he be so stupid as to use the same amount as his bonus?

The whole thing is seriously bizarre. If Karr is indeed guilty, I wouldn't be surprised if it is revealed there is a link between him and John Ramsey.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

sounds like Im not the only person who suspects there is more to John Ramsey than meets the eye....

I have always believed Jon Ramsey has had some type of involvement...Don't know why, but I follow my hunches.

[amber]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

So neither of you prejudged the mother just a little because of the pag. stuff

I didn't. I think the Dad looks creepy, but I never really thought they did it. I didn't see much of a motive. And least of all I thought Patsy did it. I mean, spending so much time on your daughter, putting her in pageants, etc. - it may not be the best thing, but to me it still is an expression of love. You don't spend that much time/effort on something that is disposable to you.
Although this new 118,00 dollar thing with the dad is odd.

Anyway, I've been following this thread, and I just skimmed it again - but maybe someone can help me - didn't the DNA not match Karr?

I still think it's that weird guy who committed suicide, and had childgirl porn, and who's boot mark was outside the house, by the window. But what do I know, I just saw that on TV.

BTW, to address why people are fascinated - I'd be just as fascinated if I saw the same story about a poor dark cute girl - but the likelihood of me seeing that in the media seems slim to none. Also, I hate pedophiles, and so am always interested, wanting to know the why of it, and how to stop it.

I think the facts that Jonbenet was a very cute little girl, and it happened on Xmas, made the media pay attention. Did the media also pay attention not just because of attractiveness of the victim (I think the media will always put the most attractive person possible in the spotlight), but also because of the neighborhood it happened in? Undoubtedly. Did I care about that? No. I didn't even really follow the case when it happened. And I wasn't more fascinated b/c she was in pageants, or white, or rich. I duly noted that the pageants may not be the best idea, but again, if I saw a like story in the media about a different kind of girl, I would be as interested.

I certainly wasn't fascinated by it, as far as I can tell when I gather news, the same thing happens every day, every where. Sad, but true.

[gldstwmn]

http://www.denverpost.com/jonbenet/ci_4225178

Officials mum about Karr transfer

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Today, Quientana Ray, who married Karr when she was 13, told ABC's "Good Morning America" in a pre-recorded interview that Karr was controlling and used to tell her about fantasies he had about little girls.
"I was drugged and things were done to me without me having any idea," said Ray, who is now married with a 4-month old child.

Her parents, Melissa and Larry Shotts, said they also discovered letters Karr wrote to their daughter that were signed "S.B.T.C." - the same initials found on a ransom note left in the Ramseys' home. They did not show the letters during the interview and it wasn't clear if they still had them.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

http://www.denverpost.com/jonbenet/ci_4225178

Officials mum about Karr transfer

snip

Today, Quientana Ray, who married Karr when she was 13, told ABC's "Good Morning America" in a pre-recorded interview that Karr was controlling and used to tell her about fantasies he had about little girls.
"I was drugged and things were done to me without me having any idea," said Ray, who is now married with a 4-month old child.

Her parents, Melissa and Larry Shotts, said they also discovered letters Karr wrote to their daughter that were signed "S.B.T.C." - the same initials found on a ransom note left in the Ramseys' home. They did not show the letters during the interview and it wasn't clear if they still had them.

My mom told me about his marriage to the 13 year old (I think he was 17 or 19 at the time?) Did the parents consent? Was this a legal marriage? Whether he killed JonBenet or not, he's a sicko. Did I hear correctly that he married his other wife (the one who's insisting he has an alibi) when she was 15 or 16?

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by skcin

My mom told me about his marriage to the 13 year old (I think he was 17 or 19 at the time?) Did the parents consent? Was this a legal marriage? Whether he killed JonBenet or not, he's a sicko. Did I hear correctly that he married his other wife (the one who's insisting he has an alibi) when she was 15 or 16?

If the source was correct, I heard this on AAR, he would not allow that wife to birth her twins in a hospital because he didn't want a doctor "ogling" her. So their twins died at birth.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

If the source was correct, I heard this on AAR, he would not allow that wife to birth her twins in a hospital because he didn't want a doctor "ogling" her. So their twins died at birth.

EWW, that's creepy!

[irishgrl]

how was it he escaped criminal charges? sounds to me like he was potentially responsible for the twins' death?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

If the source was correct, I heard this on AAR, he would not allow that wife to birth her twins in a hospital because he didn't want a doctor "ogling" her. So their twins died at birth.

I knew several guys in college who could not stand it when their girlfriends went to the doctor for this very reason. I could not believe they were that idiotic - because, and ladies please back me up here, it is oh so sexy to be in the stirrups

[skcin]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I knew several guys in college who could not stand it when their girlfriends went to the doctor for this very reason. I could not believe they were that idiotic - because, and ladies please back me up here, it is oh so sexy to be in the stirrups

Makes me hot.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by skcin

Makes me hot.

To quote my last geriatric partner - this may feel a little cold

That's what happens when they are on an iron lung and you have the power turned off

[skcin]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

To quote my last geriatric partner - this may feel a little cold

SHUT. UP.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by skcin

SHUT. UP.

GOTCHA - BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[strandinthewind]

fron cnn.com

DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body does not match sample DNA from suspect John Mark Karr, Denver, Colorado's KUSA television station reports.

As I have always thought - there is something not right here.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

fron cnn.com

DNA found on JonBenet Ramsey's body does not match sample DNA from suspect John Mark Karr, Denver, Colorado's KUSA television station reports.

As I have always thought - there is something not right here.

I'm not surprised, it all seemed too odd. But WTF were they (and by "they", I'm not sure who I mean) thinking by getting the media involved so early? Before they really knew anything? And the police here in the U.S. (Boulder, CO?) seemed to think they had enough to charge him, yet the DNA wasn't in yet AND they apparently didn't bother to check where he was that day she died? I mean, wtf?!?!

As soon as I saw him, the thing that struck me as odd was his comment: "I was with Jon Benet when she died." He never said he killed her to the media (that I know of.) It was as if he were implying they had some sort of "connection" - does that make sense? Like, he never knew her or met her or anything, but with his obsession in the case, he felt like he did? Blergh, he makes me sick.