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Old 05-29-2006, 04:34 PM
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What world are you living in? She'd get an article, a mention, but not covers. She MIGHT get Rolling Stone if they had nothing else to go on. But I've noticed this problem with fans for almost every band ever, fans forget that just because they like something doesn't mean the world at large does.

Take a step outside of the Fleetwood Mac realm, and you'll realize that shes not even in the same level as Johnny Cash.
You are so funny...
I actually respect the work of Johnny Cash. His work does not speak to me though. Look at June Carter Cash. She rode on the coat tails of a famous man. Was no big deal. And yet in the right hands that role lead another no talent like Reese Witherspoon to an Oscar for Best Actress. See how mediocrity is valued and rewarded? I think Nicks life story is much more compelling!
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Her story has nothing on that of Johnny Cash. The story was about him, not June. Reese won because she played June Carter Cash with an amazing ability. Not because her character was interesting. In the story of Johnny Cash, her role mattered because Walk the Line outlined a realtionship who could in a weird way only find a moment alone when they were on stage. Drugs/Sex/Rock n Roll isn't exciting material, or Oscar winning material.

Remember, YOU are not the movie going public. You are a Stevie Nicks fan. Naturally the story will be interesting to you. But a large majority of the world are not Stevie Nicks fans, and won't find it interesting.
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Her story has nothing on that of Johnny Cash. The story was about him, not June. Reese won because she played June Carter Cash with an amazing ability. Not because her character was interesting. In the story of Johnny Cash, her role mattered because Walk the Line outlined a realtionship who could in a weird way only find a moment alone when they were on stage. Drugs/Sex/Rock n Roll isn't exciting material, or Oscar winning material.

Remember, YOU are not the movie going public. You are a Stevie Nicks fan. Naturally the story will be interesting to you. But a large majority of the world are not Stevie Nicks fans, and won't find it interesting.
You got to think to international not english spoken market, where very few people knew who Johnny Cash was. The movie though went pretty well even in those countries because the story had the elements that sell, two young actors who are very respected, and a pretty solid director. Stevie's way more known than Johnny Cash around the world, at least as an icon, and her story has even more elements that sell, like the fact that she's still alive. But they need a very good director (possibly a great one) and at least two very skilled actresses, for the different ages to keep the movie together. From what I've seen Lindsay Lohan hasn't enough talent to approach this part but she has at least two very awaited movies coming out, Altman's A Prairie home companion and Bobby (possibly also the film about Mark Chapman could be a good vehicle). If she manages to get strong reviews (at Berlin Film Festival all the cast was generally praised, but the most mentioned had been Keillor, Streep and Harrelson) she could be a contender for the part. I'd go for Kate Winslet instead.

BY the way, IMO a movie about Fleetwood Mac isn't possible, the major issue would be the songs' rights cost, that would be astronomic. On a bio with Stevie, involving her in the project, they'll be able to manage the costs.
To cope with one artist is way easier than involving 5,6,7,8...

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Old 05-29-2006, 07:59 PM
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Her story has nothing on that of Johnny Cash. The story was about him, not June. Reese won because she played June Carter Cash with an amazing ability. Not because her character was interesting. In the story of Johnny Cash, her role mattered because Walk the Line outlined a realtionship who could in a weird way only find a moment alone when they were on stage. Drugs/Sex/Rock n Roll isn't exciting material, or Oscar winning material.

Remember, YOU are not the movie going public. You are a Stevie Nicks fan. Naturally the story will be interesting to you. But a large majority of the world are not Stevie Nicks fans, and won't find it interesting.
YOU are the one who has turned this into a pissing contest not I.
You are only stating YOUR opinion and we do not have to agree with YOU.
I thought this was The Ledge...not Johnny Cash Central....
I love your passion for your subject. I share the same for my heroes and will not be convinced otherwise. Some people could not give 2 ****s about Johnny Cash. I'm glad YOU do.
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You are so funny...
I actually respect the work of Johnny Cash. His work does not speak to me though. Look at June Carter Cash. She rode on the coat tails of a famous man. Was no big deal. And yet in the right hands that role lead another no talent like Reese Witherspoon to an Oscar for Best Actress. See how mediocrity is valued and rewarded? I think Nicks life story is much more compelling!
Reese, no talent? Really? Why do you say that? (I'm really asking)
She's one of the few current actresses I actually like.
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Reese, no talent? Really? Why do you say that? (I'm really asking)
She's one of the few current actresses I actually like.
I just saw her in "Vanity Fair." I thought she was utterly vacuous. I thought she was a hole in the screen. She's a lightweight. She's a girl you might pass at the mall. She was lashed about by the tremendous role of Becky like a kitten with a tigress by the tail.

Also, her French pronunciation is bad.

I did not see her performance in the Cash movie. But I saw her in that movie a few years back that takes place in Texas or somewhere, & her ex-husband wants her back & she's about to marry some rich, effete snob. She was good in that--again, the kind of girl you'd see at the mall, shopping for shoes.
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I just saw her in "Vanity Fair." I thought she was utterly vacuous. I thought she was a hole in the screen. She's a lightweight. She's a girl you might pass at the mall. She was lashed about by the tremendous role of Becky like a kitten with a tigress by the tail.

Also, her French pronunciation is bad.

I did not see her performance in the Cash movie. But I saw her in that movie a few years back that takes place in Texas or somewhere, & her ex-husband wants her back & she's about to marry some rich, effete snob. She was good in that--again, the kind of girl you'd see at the mall, shopping for shoes.
Don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel!

I haven't seen Vanity Fair, so I can't comment on it (or her French pronounciation), nor have I seen the other movie you're talking about. It doesn't even sound that familiar to me. But I'd say, however terrible she might've been in those other films, and even in Legally Blonde - now THERE is a lightweight of a movie, but I think she was good in WTL. I think maybe that role challenged her a bit more, with the singing, and fitting into the June Carter mold. *shrug*

Aside from that, she comes across as being genuine and levelheaded, as opposed to that ditzy girlie BS that Hollywood chicks are so wont to pull these days. Mind you, she is older, but y'know.
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I just saw her in "Vanity Fair." I thought she was utterly vacuous. I thought she was a hole in the screen. She's a lightweight. She's a girl you might pass at the mall. She was lashed about by the tremendous role of Becky like a kitten with a tigress by the tail.

Also, her French pronunciation is bad.

I did not see her performance in the Cash movie. But I saw her in that movie a few years back that takes place in Texas or somewhere, & her ex-husband wants her back & she's about to marry some rich, effete snob. She was good in that--again, the kind of girl you'd see at the mall, shopping for shoes.
You've seen the wrong movie David, to treat Thackeray as Mira Nair did should be a crime. She's a great director, but the project was clearly on assignment, and Witherspoon couldn't do much there. As Eliud said, you should try Election, or even Pleasantville, SFW, Cruel Intentions. She's extremely instinctive, surprising, intense and very generous as an actress, able to work with the smallest things and gestures.

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Look at June Carter Cash. She rode on the coat tails of a famous man.
No YOU are so funny. June Carter was a big deal before Johnny Cash ever came into her life. She was famous before anyone even knew who Johnny Cash was. I don't know where you get that she rode his coat tails!
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No YOU are so funny. June Carter was a big deal before Johnny Cash ever came into her life. She was famous before anyone even knew who Johnny Cash was. I don't know where you get that she rode his coat tails!
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No YOU are so funny. June Carter was a big deal before Johnny Cash ever came into her life. She was famous before anyone even knew who Johnny Cash was. I don't know where you get that she rode his coat tails!
The Carter Family was great back in the '30s & '40s! Ken Burns even did a documentary on them.

Stevie loved the Carter Family so much that she even sang "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" as a child.
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