Brokeback Mountain Review and Response

[sparky]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

Ok, I haven't read this whole thread, its just too long and I didn't want to read any spoilers. I really want to see this movie, but my husband won't go see it with me. Partly because he never goes to the show anyway and partly because he's homophobic, I guess I don't know how to explain him. I mean he love's girl on girl action (gay or straight) but is completly grossed out by two men. I guess that's pretty typical of a heterosexual male (you know, what would his biker buddies think) Anyhow, should I go see it alone or try to find a girlfriend that will go see it with me? Like I said this may have been discussed already but I can't read 27 pages right now

Go see it alone if you don't like people to see you cry. Take a girlfriend if you don't care. I can't imagine you'd have a problem finding a girl to go watch Jake and Heath make out. It seems straight girls are getting as into that these days as straight guys are into girl on girl.

[Rickypt]

Sparky, please check your PM for a BB Mountain thing.

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by sparky

It seems straight girls are getting as into that these days as straight guys are into girl on girl.

Oh good, so I'm not the only one I'm going this weekend, I'll let you know what I think.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

Oh good, so I'm not the only one I'm going this weekend, I'll let you know what I think.

I saw it last night. You'll love it!

[bikerchic]

Better late then never. I finally saw the movie last nite. Wow, what can I say that already hasn't been said. It was so beautiful, yet so sad. Here are a couple of my observations:

I was going to go alone but was able to talk my 16 year old son into going with me (he's hetro).

1. The theater was about half full with mostly young to medium aged women with a couple of men. Alot of mothers with their teenage daughters which I thought was interesting. And there was laughter also with the scene when Ennis's wife see's the kiss.

2. Heath gets hotter with age and Jake is hotter younger (yes, this is very important )

3. I thought there was just the right amount of sex in the movie to be tasteful.

4. I wish there was some hand holding too. Especially in the pick up truck when Jack picked Ennis up after their first reunion when they showed the truck drive away (on the way to the motel).

5. That hug that Ennis and Jack had when Jack first came to visit Ennis after the 4 years was so real and powerful and I could really feel their love for one another. I missed the lip biting blood, which makes that kiss even more meaningful.

6. The shirt scene was unbelievably sad, especially with the shirts switched around at the end (yes, I did notice this). Wow, that scene was powerful.

5. I think Jack was definately killed by gay bashing and Ennis and Jack's wife knew that.

6. Ennis going to Jack's parents home and seeing how poor Jack was as a child really made me sad.

7. I think Jack's mom knew Jack was gay. (Giving Ennis the bag to put the shirts in).

Questions:

1. You guys were saying you knew who was straight and who was gay in the theaters, how the hell do you tell?

2. Someone had said in an earlier post that maybe the two men were staight and had a primal gay encounter (cause they were horney) or one was straight and one was gay or both were gay, what do you guy's think? (does that make sense?)

3. Do you think Jack's father-in-law was behind his death?

That's all I can think of for now. I'll post more if I think of anything else.

This movie also really touched me and I can't stop thinking about it also. I thought too that I might be disappointed after all the hype but wasn't although I did find it alittle slow at the beginning. Overall, excellent, excellent movie!

[JazmenFlowers]

I saw it last night. I was really touched and moved by parts of it; I would've changed a few things, but it was really well done in all aspects. I really can't add anything to what has already been said. I thought it was a really good movie...not outstanding. It is, however, worthy of everything it's receiving. It's a fine piece of work.

I had problems with how Jack actually died too...I can't figure that out.

[stargazer99]

My thoughts on a some of your questions/observations.

Originally Posted by bikerchic

5. That hug that Ennis and Jack had when Jack first came to visit Ennis after the 4 years was so real and powerful and I could really feel their love for one another. I missed the lip biting blood, which makes that kiss even more meaningful.

It was so powerful, wasn't it? I loved that scene.

Originally Posted by bikerchic

6. The shirt scene was unbelievably sad, especially with the shirts switched around at the end (yes, I did notice this). Wow, that scene was powerful.

That scene made me lose it. The whole scene was incredibly sad, but him finding the shirt was just agonizing to watch. I didn't notice the switch at the end, though.

Originally Posted by bikerchic

5. I think Jack was definately killed by gay bashing and Ennis and Jack's wife knew that.

Yes, I think he was killed that way. I'm not sure if Ennis knew or not, but I believe the wife definitely did, and made up a story to cover it up because she didn't want to admit that her husband was gay. I especially believed that when I saw the look on her face when Ennis tells her who he is, and she realizes he was Jack's lover. She became incredibly cold to him after that point. And the fact that you could tell she was obsessively biting her nails, to the point that you could see the red nail polish between her teeth.

Originally Posted by bikerchic

7. I think Jack's mom knew Jack was gay. (Giving Ennis the bag to put the shirts in).

She definitely knew, and I believe the dad did as well. When he talked about Jack's plan to ranch with Ennis, and then the other guy... he said it with such disgust. And his angry refusal to let Ennis take Jack's ashes. Oh, he knew, too. But the mother was very compassionate about it, and I think she was truly glad to meet the person that Jack was in love with for so many years.

Originally Posted by bikerchic

3. Do you think Jack's father-in-law was behind his death?

That thought definitely crossed my mind! He hated Jack to begin with. I definitely see him finding out about Jack, and then killing him (or hiring others to do so). That would also add to the wife's reasons for lying about how he died.

I'm glad you liked it! Sounds like you got a lot of the same things out of the movie as I did.

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by stargazer99

She definitely knew, and I believe the dad did as well. When he talked about Jack's plan to ranch with Ennis, and then the other guy... he said it with such disgust. And his angry refusal to let Ennis take Jack's ashes. Oh, he knew, too.

Ya.....now that you say that.......I believe his dad knew.

[Beachwood Mac]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

I was going to go alone but was able to talk my 16 year old son into going with me (he's hetro).

If your son doesn't mind you sharing, what was his opinion of the movie?

I was surprised to hear on the Oprah interview that the script had been floating around for many years. Perhaps the cultural and political climate today has allowed the movie to convey it's message to a more accepting audience.

Terry

[estranged4life]

seen it since we havent found anyplace around here that will show it, But I did see a similar titled movie recently (Check out the image in my signature for that great drama!!!)

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

seen it since we havent found anyplace around here that will show it, But I did see a similar titled movie recently (Check out the image in my signature for that great drama!!!)

Kickback Mountain. So they're not showing it around you, eh?

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by Beachwood Mac

If your son doesn't mind you sharing, what was his opinion of the movie?

Well, he really didn't what to go. He kept saying "I'm not going to see that fag movie", typical of a young hetero male teen, I think IMO. So I was quite surprised when he said he would go. I think he felt embarrased going and walking into the show but I also think he got over that pretty quick too. I would say he's homophobic in general but I think the movie really opened his mind and feelings towards homosexuals and that's why I wanted him to go and see it. Now keep in mind, he has to be "cool" with his friends and all, but he did tell me he thought it was "pretty good" and that he liked it, which also surprised me.

*Sidenote*: love scene in tent, on the uncomfortable meter, for me, about a 9

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

I saw it last night. I was really touched and moved by parts of it; I would've changed a few things, but it was really well done in all aspects. I really can't add anything to what has already been said. I thought it was a really good movie...not outstanding. It is, however, worthy of everything it's receiving. It's a fine piece of work.

I had problems with how Jack actually died too...I can't figure that out.

Why do you think Jack's wife lied to Ennis about how he died?

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Why do you think Jack's wife lied to Ennis about how he died?

I think partly because of disgust and denial and she didn't want anyone to find out that her husband was gay. It would ruin "her image".

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

I think partly because of disgust and denial and she didn't want anyone to find out that her husband was gay. It would ruin "her image".

yep. I think so.

this movie reminds me of when my dog went AWOL. we looked and looked for her. we figured she was either dead or someone snatched her, but it was wondering where and what happened that bothered me the most - the not knowing and not being able to say goodbye...