House passes budget 216-214

[Rickypt]

Last month we talked about the budget bill with all the cuts to Medicaid/Medicare/food stamps, etc. that Cheney provided the tie-breaking Senate vote.

The House just approved it 216-214, so it is a done deal.

To make matters worse, Bush is releasing his FY 07 budget next week and it is expected to have more proposed cuts to the same entitlement programs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183431,00.html

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Last month we talked about the budget bill with all the cuts to Medicaid/Medicare/food stamps, etc. that Cheney provided the tie-breaking Senate vote.

The House just approved it 216-214, so it is a done deal.

To make matters worse, Bush is releasing his FY 07 budget next week and it is expected to have more proposed cuts to the same entitlement programs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183431,00.html

and, I believe they raised the debt ceiling yet again - off we go to Hell in a handbasket

[Rickypt]

Just one piece of the new budget:

States will now be able to institute copayments of up to 20% of service or drugs to Medicaid recipients (poorest people in the country).

Currently, copays can be no higher than $3, now can be up to $120 for your average HIV drug.

All part of this new optimistic country Bush was celebrating last night.

[amber]

I am filled with rage.

[dissention]

I thought they were too busy debating HDTV to be concerned with such things?

[Moony]

any UK ledgies want to adopt me?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by Moony

any UK ledgies want to adopt me?

Me too....


CHRISTINE I'M COMING...with Chocolate Hobnobs and wine!

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Just one piece of the new budget:

States will now be able to institute copayments of up to 20% of service or drugs to Medicaid recipients (poorest people in the country).

Currently, copays can be no higher than $3, now can be up to $120 for your average HIV drug.

All part of this new optimistic country Bush was celebrating last night.

My God..Will the neo cons pillaging of the poorest and most disenfranchised among us never end?And again such Christian values they espouse!Just when one would think their hypocrisy has sunk to the lowest ebb that it could they never disappoint by demonstrating that there is always a lower morass of immorality to sink to.

[sasja]

I just vomit and vomit.

Sasja

[tynan88]

I have come to the conclusion that anyone who votes republican in this next election is quite frankly evil and soulless...I don't care who you are, how cool you seem or how much you give to charity or love your family but anyone voting republican now is deprived of compassion and empathy and clearly has no love for the rest of society.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by tynan88

I have come to the conclusion that anyone who votes republican in this next election is quite frankly evil and soulless...I don't care who you are, how cool you seem or how much you give to charity or love your family but anyone voting republican now is deprived of compassion and empathy and clearly has no love for the rest of society.

Do I get a shirt?

[tynan88]

OK...that was a good call...I'd like to say it isn't personal because I hate that kind of thing, I have always made my life on being tolerant and understanding and trying to tolerate and even accept the views of others, I'm sure you know I am normally one of the last to point fingers and especially call people out right wrong, but:

When I see the devastation your government has caused in America and how much damage our conservatism government has caused in Australia; and it mirrors most of our Australian trends (although you are about a term behind) towards conservatism and apathy.

I hope that makes sense.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by tynan88

OK...that was a good call...I'd like to say it isn't personal because I hate that kind of thing, I have always made my life on being tolerant and understanding and trying to tolerate and even accept the views of others, I'm sure you know I am normally one of the last to point fingers and especially call people out right wrong, but:

When I see the devastation your government has caused in America and how much damage our conservatism government has caused in Australia; and it mirrors most of our Australian trends (although you are about a term behind) towards conservatism and apathy.

I hope that makes sense.

I have a theory that neo-conservatives think that poor people should just make more money if they're not happy being poor. Then if they can't, there is something inherently wrong with them and they don't deserve to be one of the "haves" and who cares about them because they are irrelevant. I don't think they think of the poor and the least among us as actual people. They are less than them and beneath them. Do you folks think this is true?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

I have a theory that neo-conservatives think that poor people should just make more money if they're not happy being poor. Then if they can't, there is something inherently wrong with them and they don't deserve to be one of the "haves" and who cares about them because they are irrelevant. I don't think they think of the poor and the least among us as actual people. They are less than them and beneath them. Do you folks think this is true?

Yes, they seemingly think that. I mean does anyone really think that if someone with an IQ of 70 or above could make more money they would not. I mean I get that there are lazy people at all income levels who do not want to work, but to imply that that is the rule and not the exception is assinine. Moreover, poor people in general do not get the proper education, etc. So, how are they to rise above the fry station at Buger King with govt. assisstance to supplement their income or lack thereof. AND ANOTHER THING here's a novel idea - how about if that fry station position paid a liveable wage.

I am getting off my soapbox now

[SomeKindaMother]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

I have a theory that neo-conservatives think that poor people should just make more money if they're not happy being poor. Then if they can't, there is something inherently wrong with them and they don't deserve to be one of the "haves" and who cares about them because they are irrelevant. I don't think they think of the poor and the least among us as actual people. They are less than them and beneath them. Do you folks think this is true?

I think they just think they are *right*....literally. The Republican leaders really don't even care about the Republican followers any more than what it takes to keep the flock following. Which has proven to be easier to do by using the cloak of religion than to actually provide a healthy productive policy of any kind.

Kelly