No mention of Bat Mitzvah debacle on Nicks Fix

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Speaking of the Nicksfix...it's just not as cool as it once was. There are so many better fan sites than the "official" website. Of course this was back before everyone realized just how easy it is to create a website.

Check out the Official websites of other big stars, like Madonna, Britney Spears, Carly Simon, etc., and i.m.o. you'll see just how good John's page is, comparatively. His is the least "corporate" web page of a music star that I've ever seen, and the only one with a FREE chat room. It's also updated MUCH more frequently than the other OFFICIAL web sites, and has ways to send Stevie birthday and Christmas greetings, etc. that she ACTUALLY READS.
In my opinion, his page shouldn't be compared so much to the non-official Stevie sites, but to the Official sites of other major rock stars. From that point of view -
maybe it's the best page out there...
The other Official Web Pages, i.m.o., only have ONE take home message -
"BUY OUR ****! BUY OUR ****! BUY OUR ****!!!"
The alternative would be to put it in the hands of Stevie's record company, and BELIEVE me that would not be a pretty site....

Anyway I realize that I'm in a minority opinion here, but John (and probably Stevie) are being VERY wise here.
The best thing to do is lay low. ANYTHING else, even an apology, is just going to be like pouring kerosene on a hopefully-already-dying fire. She made a mistake, publicity wise, and inadvertantly walked in to a hornet's nest. But in my honest opinion she and Brooks are being USED by people who have an Agenda and, as I've said, are not presenting both sides of this story.
That's just plain bad journalism.

[BombaySapphire3]

originally posted by Ghost Tracker
Anyway I realize that I'm in a minority opinion here, but John (and probably Stevie) are being VERY wise here.
The best thing to do is lay low. ANYTHING else, even an apology, is just going to be like pouring kerosene on a hopefully-already-dying fire. She made a mistake, publicity wise, and inadvertantly walked in to a hornet's nest. But in my honest opinion she and Brooks are being USED by people who have an Agenda and, as I've said, are not presenting both sides of this story.
That's just plain bad journalism.

Not acknowledging that the event even took place on the official website is not IMO laying low.It is making the event even more glaring in it's omission .Like other Ledgies and myself have stated the best tack would have been to make public a complete transfer of the payola from this tainted party to a worthy charity.Much like Don Henley has with his check going right away to the Walden Woods fund.Pretending it never happened and hoping people just forget that it did is sort of the proverbial ostrich with it' s head in the sand solution.

[JeannieKartis]

John only posts what is authorized by Stevie's people.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by JeannieKartis

John only posts what is authorized by Stevie's people.

Yes, THANK youuuuuuuu!

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by JeannieKartis

John only posts what is authorized by Stevie's people.

Otherwise, his wouldnt be the official site for long, you can be sure of that.

[Raeven Skye]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

You may not care about it, but certainly the official website should. They mention all her other appearances.

they mention "near-misses" too....things that could be Stevie-related but aren't...i find it very telling that there's no "offical" word on Partygate (or Mitvahpallooza,as I've seen it, too..hehe).

[BTFLCHLD]

if one thinks petty and nicks are the only ones...
that would be a mistake... http://www.worldwidecorporateevents.com/musicians.php
professionals are paid to perform...and why shouldnt they be?
if an artists is concerned with who they are performing for
or where the money is coming from it would be their agents
job to provide that information to them...im thinking most
when presented with $$$$ for a short time-frame of work
would perform if the issues werent too murky...or they didnt
take the time to become aware...maybe a turn of the cheek

[strandinthewind]

Plus and on a smaller scale by person, should artists screen out the people who buy actual concert tickets and records? Surely, some of the ticket and record buying public are crooks. Other than being a bunch of people making the large sum as opposed to one rich person making that sum, how is that significantly different from a moral point of view if we are to assume artists should not take funds from bad people Where do we draw the line?

[jannieC]

I don't think it's that odd that she did the show, I just find it odd that it's not mentioned on her official website since every public move the woman makes usually is.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Check out the Official websites of other big stars, like Madonna, Britney Spears, Carly Simon, etc., and i.m.o. you'll see just how good John's page is, comparatively. His is the least "corporate" web page of a music star that I've ever seen, and the only one with a FREE chat room. It's also updated MUCH more frequently than the other OFFICIAL web sites, and has ways to send Stevie birthday and Christmas greetings, etc. that she ACTUALLY READS.
In my opinion, his page shouldn't be compared so much to the non-official Stevie sites, but to the Official sites of other major rock stars. From that point of view -
maybe it's the best page out there...
The other Official Web Pages, i.m.o., only have ONE take home message -
"BUY OUR ****! BUY OUR ****! BUY OUR ****!!!"
The alternative would be to put it in the hands of Stevie's record company, and BELIEVE me that would not be a pretty site....

I understand what you're saying and see your points. However, the websites of the other artists you mention, are currently moving more units. Meaning, they are more popular in pop culture and selling product. Marketing works. Most of these artists have zero time to actually participate. The Ask Stevie section has been dormant for quite a while as well. Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? I don't think so. She doesn't have 5 minutes...she's got to go!

Reprise did have a exclusive website when TISL launched. It was very nicely done but not offering anything on a personal side like Nicksfix does.

Don't get me wrong, Nicksfix is a great resource and John Kinney is a very nice person. The code for the site however really sucks and the updates are much more infrequent. It used to pretty much have updates on a daily basis...but now the info lags on getting posted. You can find up to the minute info on a lot of other site, including this forum of course.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Richard B

I understand what you're saying and see your points. However, the websites of the other artists you mention, are currently moving more units. Meaning, they are more popular in pop culture and selling product. Marketing works. Most of these artists have zero time to actually participate. The Ask Stevie section has been dormant for quite a while as well. Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? I don't think so. She doesn't have 5 minutes...she's got to go!

Reprise did have a exclusive website when TISL launched. It was very nicely done but not offering anything on a personal side like Nicksfix does.

Don't get me wrong, Nicksfix is a great resource and John Kinney is a very nice person. The code for the site however really sucks and the updates are much more infrequent. It used to pretty much have updates on a daily basis...but now the info lags on getting posted. You can find up to the minute info on a lot of other site, including this forum of course.

good points. I agree that it makes me jealous of Britney, et al fans because they get so much via the web. I will say tho that this is not the case for all major stars today. My 2nd favorite diva, Xtina Aguilera's official website sucks. I visit christinamultimedia.com and miss-aguilera.com five times as much as they are on top of everything and offer lots of goodies.

[Sahara]

Ah, no, I think the Fix is pretty good.

And given the response the whole Bat Mitzvah thing has gotten thus far, maybe they've reason to leave it out ...

Just a thought...

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by Richard B

The Ask Stevie section has been dormant for quite a while as well. Do you really think Stevie actually reads her birthday wishes? I don't think so. She doesn't have 5 minutes...she's got to go!

Yeah, that's true though.

Very witty, well done at the end there.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

if one thinks petty and nicks are the only ones...
that would be a mistake... http://www.worldwidecorporateevents.com/musicians.php
professionals are paid to perform...and why shouldnt they be?
if an artists is concerned with who they are performing for
or where the money is coming from it would be their agents
job to provide that information to them...im thinking most
when presented with $$$$ for a short time-frame of work
would perform if the issues werent too murky...or they didnt
take the time to become aware...maybe a turn of the cheek

Amen, THANK yooooouuuu!!!

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Plus and on a smaller scale by person, should artists screen out the people who buy actual concert tickets and records? Surely, some of the ticket and record buying public are crooks. Other than being a bunch of people making the large sum as opposed to one rich person making that sum, how is that significantly different from a moral point of view if we are to assume artists should not take funds from bad people Where do we draw the line?

Lemmie just throw this out as an idea -
whereva -
same as Stevie -
her own personal decision.
$250,000 - possibly for cancer research,
possibly for the heart institute,
possibly for Jessie.
Maybe just to pay some damn bills.
She's human.