Stevie, Lindsey and Christine: all nominees for Songwriters Hall of Fame 2006

[Gailh]

Of the nominees how many get inducted (is that the right word)?

Gail

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by Gailh

Of the nominees how many get inducted (is that the right word)?

Gail

"Voters can choose two from the performing list and three from the non-performers, for a total of five."

[Gailh]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

"Voters can choose two from the performing list and three from the non-performers, for a total of five."

Thanks for that.

Hmm. Interesting. So it's not possible for Stevie, Lindsey and Christine to be inducted at the same time?

Gail

[GypsySongbird]

Originally Posted by David

I don't think any songwriter in Fleetwood Mac has ever been as skillful a lyricist as, say, Joni Mitchell or Dylan or any of the established greats. Those are people whose ability to wield just the right words in just the right rhythms pretty much outstrips the same ability of anyone in Fleetwood from '67 to the present.

lol, i actually think the fletwood mac folks are better! actually, much better! i think lindsey, stevie & chris's lyrics are easily better than mitchals, but thats just my opinion.

[snowman]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

I'm gonna go ahead and say I hope none of them do, at least this time around. Pete Townshend and Neil both deserve this honor well before any of those three.

I agree. Both have been around a long time and have contributed immensly.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by GypsySongbird

lol, i actually think the fletwood mac folks are better! actually, much better! i think lindsey, stevie & chris's lyrics are easily better than mitchals, but thats just my opinion.

In what ways?

Lyrically, I can't think of anything any of the Fleetwood Maccers have written that can even stand next to Mitchell's "Ladies of the Canyon" and "This Flight Tonight." Hell, even "For Free" pierces right through me on a lyrical level and remarkably illustrates the beauty of music into something that's almost tangible.

They don't have any remarkable ways with words and their lyrics generally come off as quite awkward, though Christine McVie comes closest amongst the three. Her simplistic lyrics can be trite and dull, but not only are they the most accessible, but they're the most human. Her writing contains no sense of pretension, no sly backslaps that congratulate herself for including bizarre references that no one but the writer can possibly understand. Being accessible does not equate with actually being good, but it does in her case. Sandwiched between two extremes, it becomes painfully obvious how much talent and discipline it takes to compose a simple little ditty about love without having to depend on any sort of schtick to sell it.

Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks essentially rely on stringing together various eccentricities and recylced motifs without much regard or forethought for the end result. Sometimes it works, other times it fails miserably.

JMO.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by dissention

In what ways?

Lyrically, I can't think of anything any of the Fleetwood Maccers have written that can even stand next to Mitchell's "Ladies of the Canyon" and "This Flight Tonight." Hell, even "For Free" pierces right through me on a lyrical level and remarkably illustrates the beauty of music into something that's almost tangible.

They don't have any remarkable ways with words and their lyrics generally come off as quite awkward, though Christine McVie comes closest amongst the three. Her simplistic lyrics can be trite and dull, but not only are they the most accessible, but they're the most human. Her writing contains no sense of pretension, no sly backslaps that congratulate herself for including bizarre references that no one but the writer can possibly understand. Being accessible does not equate with actually being good, but it does in her case. Sandwiched between two extremes, it becomes painfully obvious how much talent and discipline it takes to compose a simple little ditty about love without having to depend on any sort of schtick to sell it.

Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks essentially rely on stringing together various eccentricities and recylced motifs without much regard or forethought for the end result. Sometimes it works, other times it fails miserably.

JMO.

Very interesting analysis of those three and I agree with you for the most part! I think Christine's lyrics are the most human and accessible. However aside from lyrics and speaking in terms of just musical arrangements I think THAT is where the Mac really shines. Christine writes/has written some of the catchiest hooks in pop music history!

[David]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

However aside from lyrics and speaking in terms of just musical arrangements I think THAT is where the Mac really shines. Christine writes/has written some of the catchiest hooks in pop music history!

This is true. Catchy hooks & arrangements are where Fleetwood Mac (marque 1975-1987) really excels & stands apart from the herd.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by GypsySongbird

lol, i actually think the fletwood mac folks are better! actually, much better! i think lindsey, stevie & chris's lyrics are easily better than mitchals, but thats just my opinion.

Are you high???

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by markolas

Are you high???

I agree. When Stevie writes a song as wonderful as "Case of You"...then I'll take it back!

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by GypsySongbird

mmhmmm.......& welcome to the room sarah is riveting

So is Everywhere and Skies The Limit.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Just be careful you don't praise him too much there, Sparks... David IS fond of "When I See You Again," you know.

Everyone has a blind spot. David also loves drunked coked up Stevie. He loves the extremes. I think it is matter of reveling in her most pathetic and desperate moment.
I am sure he loves that I am talking about him like he isn't here.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

So is Everywhere and Skies The Limit.

C'mon, "Mystified" has me on the edge of my seat!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

So is Everywhere and Skies The Limit.

But people actually KNOW those songs!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

But people actually KNOW those songs!

I simply cannot tell you how many people I see bouncing up and down on their hydraulics-enhanced rides grooving to "Skies the Limit."

Who the hell knows that song?